Who is this FREAK???
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He is not a "happy camper" is he?

This is the first time I've done this. But I had to reply to what is being said by some of you. Check into the "Chattel Laws" still prevelant in most of Africa. The majority of the people sold to westerners were already slaves, with black masters. The black masters sold them, first to Arabs then to Europeans. Money talks.

This is the first time I've done this. But I had to reply to what is being said by some of you. Check into the "Chattel Laws" still prevelant in most of Africa. The majority of the people sold to westerners were already slaves, with black masters. The black masters sold them, first to Arabs then to Europeans. Money talks.

That is a side of the subject that most Black folks don't want to talk about. There was a thriving slave trade there when the Whites arrived. All the Europeans did was to turn the slimy business into big business. Many slaves did fall into white hands that way but there were also raids done mostly by Arabs and Blacks that knew their way around the country side. These raids were exclusively to capture people for the European slave trade.

You are right. It was all about money and its attending greed for more and more! Money talks, and has no color.

By the way. Welcome to the site! :cheers:

how did this thread get started again!??? it did give me some luaghs. moreblackpower can only be seen as comical. oh yeah CG, ur jamaican? lol

how did this thread get started again!??? it did give me some luaghs. moreblackpower can only be seen as comical. oh yeah CG, ur jamaican? lol


i think moebackpower was a white man playin around ...and no was not me thats foe sure ..

This is odd!
Rory, from reading alot of your posts I would say that you are a white guy with a European background. And you also did some traveling in your lifetime Ney York, Florida, etc. etc. Why would you disagree with my suggestion for the originator of this thread to send his messages privately to his accomplist?
They are obviously heavily ingaged in the black militant mentality that is dangerous to us all be it black or white. Their subject is far to controvercial and is also widely misleading. They make it seem like from the discovery of the new world the white men which happens to be your ancestors, had a plan to distroy the black men which happens to be my ancestors. That once again is untrue and misleading. We all know that the black race was injustly treated and widely hated but it was not a big conspiracy designed to keep us oppressed forever. Haitianboy don't even live in the Bahamas. Why is he trying to stir up such an illfaithful atmosphere here. If things get out of control here he doesn't have to deal with the problem. Right now us blacks have the upper hand here in the Bahamas. We are the majority, we control the government and besides the fact that the foreign investors are mostly of other races and provides millions of $$ to our economy we still own a majority of businessess here in the country. But it is our Bahamian nature to live together in harmony and get along. If this is working for us tell me why do we alow someone living in another country that is not natively his, spread this poison across our website? This Haitianboy character obviously have a problem with white people and still wouldn't leave America. I think that is as rediculous as his posts.

You are a fool! I know that I should say more, but its folks like you who would rant and rave that there was never salvery or racism in the Bahamas, and that we are the decendants of the Arawaks. YOU ARE RIDICULOUS! If not venues like this to discuss 'controversial' matters, then why have sites like these for which to engage in discourse. YOU IGNANT!

This is the first time I've done this. But I had to reply to what is being said by some of you. Check into the "Chattel Laws" still prevelant in most of Africa. The majority of the people sold to westerners were already slaves, with black masters. The black masters sold them, first to Arabs then to Europeans. Money talks.

And if you do some research on slavery in Africa, you would find that it was much different than slavery in the west. So we can all presume that the Africans who sold Africans, were not thinking that they would be so utterly abused as they were in the west.

That is a side of the subject that most Black folks don't want to talk about. There was a thriving slave trade there when the Whites arrived. All the Europeans did was to turn the slimy business into big business. Many slaves did fall into white hands that way but there were also raids done mostly by Arabs and Blacks that knew their way around the country side. These raids were exclusively to capture people for the European slave trade.
You are right. It was all about money and its attending greed for more and more! Money talks, and has no color.
By the way. Welcome to the site! :cheers:

Just when i decide in my minds eye, that this guy is okay and not racist, you go and post $h!t like this. From your previous posts, I would think you more inteligent to respond to this as you did, yes there was slavery form the beginning of time, i'm not disputing the fact. But you and I both know that Africans and Westerners viewed and practiced it differently. It seems that anytime someone says anything that belittle black folk, even a bit, you run with it.

Just when i decide in my minds eye, that this guy is okay and not racist, you go and post $h!t like this. From your previous posts, I would think you more inteligent to respond to this as you did, yes there was slavery form the beginning of time, i'm not disputing the fact. But you and I both know that Africans and Westerners viewed and practiced it differently. It seems that anytime someone says anything that belittle black folk, even a bit, you run with it.

:dunce: your low opinion of CG is totally uncalled for AND you impression of him is false! i suggest you read his previous posts.

Just when i decide in my minds eye, that this guy is okay and not racist, you go and post $h!t like this. From your previous posts, I would think you more inteligent to respond to this as you did, yes there was slavery form the beginning of time, i'm not disputing the fact. But you and I both know that Africans and Westerners viewed and practiced it differently.
I believe that I posted on another thread, some time ago that although slavery is slavery there are many different kinds, many forms. The form that the Black African was acquainted with was much like the slavery in the Bible where the slaves had certain rights and could even rise to high office as in the story of Joseph. Slavery in the US was not like that at all! The question was that Blacks did take part in the salve trade. That is not $h!t, but fact. Their motives, their understandings of how it was practiced in the West, was not in question. The facts remain that they did contribute to the problem. (I think I also mentioned that slavery was a slimly business. Hardly a word a racist would use?)

Why is it that anyone, any White person who questions or brings out facts that Blacks can't handle, or perceive as anti-Black is at once labeled a racists? But a Black man can bring out facts that show White folks in a bad light by he is not considered a racist. They can say the most outrageous things and they are never held to account for them. Have you noticed how few White folks bother to answer any questions here that even hint of race? They just don't answer because it is simple not worth the trouble! They will be called a racist! It is very easy to dismiss someone as a racist. It is much harder to reform his racism and make of him an understanding friend. Let us suppose I was one. Would your remarks reform me or drive me deeper into my beliefs? (By the way, some White folks call me a "N...r lover! I catch it from both sides!!)

It seems that anytime someone says anything that belittle black folk, even a bit, you run with it.
Sometimes I do it to enlist a debate. I have learned from others here because of their answers. But then, at other times I have not "run with it."
Read my post http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2297&page=4
I'll post it here. It was in answer to a remark, regarding the flood in New Orleans and why, as the writer said, "African Americans just know how to mess themselves up in the eyes of others....."
My answer to that was:
"As for the trouble makers being Black. I think it is safe to say that most, not all, are Black. I have seen more Black hands extended in compassion, far, far, far more. There was the touching sight of a guy that most of us would describe as a Rasta, gently lifting an elderly White couple from an Air-Boat. I have seen Black men, their backs bent over from the weight of strangers they are carrying out of the flood waters. There was the story of a Black man who loaded a raft with kids and rowed them to safety. Black folks have nothing to be ashamed of in this disaster. Had the majority of the people been White, you would have seen looting too. You would also have seen the same acts of compassion. This is what happens went human beings are thrown into a disaster, it brings out the worst in some, and the best in most."

Perhaps you missed my other posts where I have mentioned that if I did not like Black folks and I was a racist, what I am I doing living here??? I would not be happy and would have left for "Whiter" fields a long time ago when they was a "White" flight.

Perhaps you missed my posts where I mentioned that I have Black relatives? Perhaps you miss the post where I spoke of the times I taught Black History because the other History teachers considered it "Trash History" and did not want to lead the class.

I lobbied my College to start a Black History Month lecture series. At the first lecture we had 20 Black kids. But the time of the last lecture in the series rolled around we had 200 people, of all colors, students and non-student, young and old, peoples of all stripes. I believed those lectures helped roll back ignorance on all sides.

This is no news to you - Black folks have more than their share of troubles in this world. Some, they have brought on themselves, others have been - and still are - imposed on them by others. The only way, as I see it, for things to change is to dialogue, not just with friends but with the perceived enemies.

No, I am not a racist. Perhaps I don't write all that well and my words get misunderstood. Perhaps there are some that read my words and bring to then their own prejudices. Perhaps I am just an idealist who believes that someday color will just be an unimportant word we use when describing the outside appearance of someone.

As a Buddhist I believe in the "Buddha Nature." It has no color. As a Christian I am sure you believe in the love of God which is also colorless. Me? A racist? Only for the one great race, the Human Race, with all it flaws, its warts, its misunderstanding. It is still a great race! Made up of beliefs, cultures, and colors. A wonderful "Garden" tended by the Master's hand. He likes it!!! Why can't we??

:dunce: your low opinion of CG is totally uncalled for AND you impression of him is false! i suggest you read his previous posts.

Your kindness, and understanding, is much appreciated! :cheers:

CG. Yes i have read your previous posts, and have enjoyed going back and forth with you on these very important and thought provoking matters. Okay, so you are not a racist, maybe that is too harsh a word, but whenever a white man try to (justify) as i interpreted your response, I begin to think suspect. Sometimes I may get a bit too passionate by issues of race and ethnic marginality, but as we both know, black folk in the west have occupied the peripheries of society for so long, and in some places there are still sites that render us invisible. ex. response to the (NEW ORLEANS) disaster, so forgive me if I'm a bit insensitive, but also remember where i am, America where i deal with issues of race on a daily basis.

CG. Yes i have read your previous posts, and have enjoyed going back and forth with you on these very important and thought provoking matters. Okay, so you are not a racist, maybe that is too harsh a word, but whenever a white man try to (justify) as i interpreted your response, I begin to think suspect.
But if I don't respond, or justify, would that not be suspect too? Also, I could not just let what you said sit there!

Sometimes I may get a bit too passionate by issues of race and ethnic marginality, but as we both know, black folk in the west have occupied the peripheries of society for so long, and in some places there are still sites that render us invisible. ex. response to the (NEW ORLEANS) disaster, so forgive me if I'm a bit insensitive, but also remember where i am, America where i deal with issues of race on a daily basis.
Understood - believe me I understand more that you think. I lived in the US for a while. I was in College in New York. When I was a kid we used to go to the South where there were Black and White drinking fountains, wash rooms, hospitals!!!???!! I am sure that was before you were born but you have heard of it. Things are getting better, they will get better yet - but it takes understanding on both sides.

But if I don't respond, or justify, would that not be suspect too? Also, I could not just let what you said sit there!
Understood - believe me I understand more that you think. I lived in the US for a while. I was in College in New York. When I was a kid we used to go to the South where there were Black and White drinking fountains, wash rooms, hospitals!!!???!! I am sure that was before you were born but you have heard of it. Things are getting better, they will get better yet - but it takes understanding on both sides.

I know you had to respond to my comments, and I'm glad, i appreciate challenging dialogue. I have friends from the South, everytime i visit parts Alabama, mississippi, and Texas, i am always appalled by the racial divide and the violent histories of some of the small towns. In a small town in Texas they still have these signs up, it's historic preservation and museums, but it still hurts my heart to see this. In Alabama they still have celebrations and re-enactments of the civil, and the confederate army. Racism in the U.S is toxic, sometimes I must remind myself to view people as just such, and not a race.

This is the first time I've done this. But I had to reply to what is being said by some of you. Check into the "Chattel Laws" still prevelant in most of Africa. The majority of the people sold to westerners were already slaves, with black masters. The black masters sold them, first to Arabs then to Europeans. Money talks.


Bingo. We still kill and hurt up ourselves to this day. Ethiopia going in to Somalia, and the crisis in the Sudan.
Negroes have not been good to each other, so why should anyone be good to us?
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