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adidasboi987 08-16-06, - 12:58 PM THE FOLLOWING IS AN EDITED COPY OF AN E-MAIL WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO A LOCAL INTERNET GROUP:
From : Lambda-Group <Lambda-Group@Comcast.net>
Sent : Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:21 PM
To : (A Local Internet Group)
Subject : HOMOPHOBIA
THINK YOUR MEMBERS WILL ENJOY & HOPEFULLY - FORWARD TO OTHERS - THE FOLLOWING:
Subject: "HOMOPHOBIA"
We are the couple who had the realtor hang up on us when she found
out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.
I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I
want to avoid getting the management called on me.
I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I
bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother
because I now live with another woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system
grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive
partner is also a woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to
turn to because I am male.
I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up
afraid to show affection to other men.
I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a
fag everyday
I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother
that I am a lesbian.
I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a
transsexual woman.
I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful,
tear-filled nights.
We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.
I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not
let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.
I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken
away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever
had. I wish they could adopt me.
I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before
graduating high school.
I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as
they realized I was transsexual.
I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much
better person if I didnt have to always deal with society hating me.
I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't
believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.
I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.
I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends im a lesbian, because
they constantly make fun of them.
I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to
die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson"
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOPHOBIA IS WRONG... Please forward to Family, Friends, Groups etc.
Together, We Can Change The World, One Mind At A Time!
Have a great day,
Treat each other as we would like to be treated.
*****************************
WE WELCOME SUGGESTION...Please contact us...
Bob & Dave Cozzoinger@comcast.net (comcast.net) Lambda-Group@comcast.net (comcast.net)
Forming a More Sincere, Welcoming, Loving, Inclusive and FREE...
LAMBDA RAINBOW FAMILY & COMMUNITY WORLD WIDE ...
with YOUR HELP & SUPPORT!
adidasboi987 08-16-06, - 01:28 PM FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
In "More Man Than You'll Ever Be" by Joseph P. Goodwin (Indiana University Press:Bloomington, 1989) on page 26, Goodwin writes:
The lowercase Greek letter lambda carries several meanings. First of all, it represents scales, and thus balance. The Greeks considered balance to be the constant adjustment necessary to keep opposing forces from overcoming each other. The hook at the bottom of the right leg of the lambda represents the action required to reach and maintain a balance. To the Spartans, the lambda meant unity. They felt that society should never infringe on anyone's individuality and freedom. The Romans adopted the letter to represent "the light of knowledge shed into the darkness of ignorance." Finally, in physics the symbol designates and energy change. Thus the lambda, with all its meanings, is an especially apt symbol for the gay liberation movement, which energetically seeks a balance in society and which strives through enlightenment to secure equal rights for homosexual people.[/B]
THE FOLLOWING IS AN EDITED COPY OF AN E-MAIL WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO A LOCAL INTERNET GROUP:
From : Lambda-Group <Lambda-Group@Comcast.net>
Sent : Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:21 PM
To : (A Local Internet Group)
Subject : HOMOPHOBIA
THINK YOUR MEMBERS WILL ENJOY & HOPEFULLY - FORWARD TO OTHERS - THE FOLLOWING:
Subject: "HOMOPHOBIA"
We are the couple who had the realtor hang up on us when she found
out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.
I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I
want to avoid getting the management called on me.
I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I
bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother
because I now live with another woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system
grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive
partner is also a woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to
turn to because I am male.
I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up
afraid to show affection to other men.
I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a
fag everyday
I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother
that I am a lesbian.
I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a
transsexual woman.
I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful,
tear-filled nights.
We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.
I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not
let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.
I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken
away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever
had. I wish they could adopt me.
I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before
graduating high school.
I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as
they realized I was transsexual.
I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much
better person if I didnt have to always deal with society hating me.
I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't
believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.
I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.
I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends im a lesbian, because
they constantly make fun of them.
I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to
die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson"
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOPHOBIA IS WRONG... Please forward to Family, Friends, Groups etc.
Together, We Can Change The World, One Mind At A Time!
Have a great day,
Treat each other as we would like to be treated.
*****************************
WE WELCOME SUGGESTION...Please contact us...
Bob & Dave Cozzoinger@comcast.net (comcast.net) Lambda-Group@comcast.net (comcast.net)
Forming a More Sincere, Welcoming, Loving, Inclusive and FREE...
LAMBDA RAINBOW FAMILY & COMMUNITY WORLD WIDE ...
with YOUR HELP & SUPPORT!
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trubahamian 08-16-06, - 01:48 PM FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
In "More Man Than You'll Ever Be" by Joseph P. Goodwin (Indiana University Press:Bloomington, 1989) on page 26, Goodwin writes:
The lowercase Greek letter lambda carries several meanings. First of all, it represents scales, and thus balance. The Greeks considered balance to be the constant adjustment necessary to keep opposing forces from overcoming each other. The hook at the bottom of the right leg of the lambda represents the action required to reach and maintain a balance. To the Spartans, the lambda meant unity. They felt that society should never infringe on anyone's individuality and freedom. The Romans adopted the letter to represent "the light of knowledge shed into the darkness of ignorance." Finally, in physics the symbol designates and energy change. Thus the lambda, with all its meanings, is an especially apt symbol for the gay liberation movement, which energetically seeks a balance in society and which strives through enlightenment to secure equal rights for homosexual people.[/B]
Equal rights?..........Sure,why not. But,if granted,how u gonna make people like,accept or respect sissies? It be impossible to legislate dat.:raw:
Vicky 08-16-06, - 02:01 PM Equal rights?..........Sure,why not. But,if granted,how u gonna make people like,accept or respect sissies? It be impossible to legislate dat.:raw:
It is in the constitution No discrimination based on sex. I saw someone in court for threatening some one saying "head shots for p(ref cats) hole boys".
trubahamian 08-16-06, - 02:47 PM It is in the constitution No discrimination based on sex. I saw someone in court for threatening some one saying "head shots for p(ref cats) hole boys".
I said......yes,equal rights are necessary. How is u be makin peeps to like sissies? People have their distinct likes n' dislikes,laws are not going to change that. Example: In the States it is illegal to discriminate against anyone when it comes tu a job or housing,or risk be fined or imprisoned.OK....cool! Do u believe that also means both parties must like or accept one another? Hell no! That is an entirely personal issue.
NASBWI 08-16-06, - 05:29 PM I said......yes,equal rights are necessary. How is u be makin peeps to like sissies? People have their distinct likes n' dislikes,laws are not going to change that. Example: In the States it is illegal to discriminate against anyone when it comes tu a job or housing,or risk be fined or imprisoned.OK....cool! Do u believe that also means both parties must like or accept one another? Hell no! That is an entirely personal issue.
While I won't argue your point, I'd like to make one of my own. It's true, you can't "force" someone to like someone else's differences. However, a lot of those examples that were listed weren't so much to do with discrimination as it had to do with violence based on that said dislike. Why does that happen? Well, here's a scenario: little Johnny overhears his parents talking about how sinful gays and lesbians are, and they strongly disagree with their lives. Without explaining the importance of respect for one other's privacy, lives, or elsewhat (if that's even a word lol), little Johnny decides that "well, those gays and lesbians sound like awful creatures, and don't deserve to live". So, as he gets older, he develops this hatred that festers until he finds himself a victim. And the rest is left up to the newspaper headlines. Get my drift?
It's not so much whether you agree or disagree with the choices people make in life, but how you react to it, and how you teach your children to deal with it. You may accept it, or you may not. If you don't, though, would you condone violence against those people? More importantly, would you teach your children that it's acceptable to treat those people differently than if they were straight? That's the bottom line. Discrimination, for the most part these days, has been ironed out. Attitudes, however, have not.
Vicky 08-16-06, - 09:04 PM THE FOLLOWING IS AN EDITED COPY OF AN E-MAIL WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO A LOCAL INTERNET GROUP:
From : Lambda-Group <Lambda-Group@Comcast.net>
Sent : Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:21 PM
To : (A Local Internet Group)
Subject : HOMOPHOBIA
THINK YOUR MEMBERS WILL ENJOY & HOPEFULLY - FORWARD TO OTHERS - THE FOLLOWING:
Subject: "HOMOPHOBIA"
We are the couple who had the realtor hang up on us when she found
out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.
I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I
want to avoid getting the management called on me.
I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I
bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother
because I now live with another woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system
grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive
partner is also a woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to
turn to because I am male.
I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up
afraid to show affection to other men.
I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a
fag everyday
I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother
that I am a lesbian.
I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a
transsexual woman.
I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful,
tear-filled nights.
We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.
I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not
let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.
I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken
away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever
had. I wish they could adopt me.
I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before
graduating high school.
I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as
they realized I was transsexual.
I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much
better person if I didnt have to always deal with society hating me.
I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't
believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.
I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.
I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends im a lesbian, because
they constantly make fun of them.
I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to
die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson"
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOPHOBIA IS WRONG... Please forward to Family, Friends, Groups etc.
Together, We Can Change The World, One Mind At A Time!
Have a great day,
Treat each other as we would like to be treated.
*****************************
WE WELCOME SUGGESTION...Please contact us...
Bob & Dave Cozzoinger@comcast.net (comcast.net) Lambda-Group@comcast.net (comcast.net)
Forming a More Sincere, Welcoming, Loving, Inclusive and FREE...
LAMBDA RAINBOW FAMILY & COMMUNITY WORLD WIDE ...
with YOUR HELP & SUPPORT!
You beat me to it. do you know any of the life stories of some of these people??
Also Lambda is one of the oldest GLBT organizations.
Vicky 08-16-06, - 09:07 PM I said......yes,equal rights are necessary. How is u be makin peeps to like sissies? People have their distinct likes n' dislikes,laws are not going to change that. Example: In the States it is illegal to discriminate against anyone when it comes tu a job or housing,or risk be fined or imprisoned.OK....cool! Do u believe that also means both parties must like or accept one another? Hell no! That is an entirely personal issue.
You are right no problem there with me. It is respect as a fellow human being I say all should have. And equality in the law.
Vicky 08-16-06, - 09:11 PM While I won't argue your point, I'd like to make one of my own. It's true, you can't "force" someone to like someone else's differences. However, a lot of those examples that were listed weren't so much to do with discrimination as it had to do with violence based on that said dislike. Why does that happen? Well, here's a scenario: little Johnny overhears his parents talking about how sinful gays and lesbians are, and they strongly disagree with their lives. Without explaining the importance of respect for one other's privacy, lives, or elsewhat (if that's even a word lol), little Johnny decides that "well, those gays and lesbians sound like awful creatures, and don't deserve to live". So, as he gets older, he develops this hatred that festers until he finds himself a victim. And the rest is left up to the newspaper headlines. Get my drift?
It's not so much whether you agree or disagree with the choices people make in life, but how you react to it, and how you teach your children to deal with it. You may accept it, or you may not. If you don't, though, would you condone violence against those people? More importantly, would you teach your children that it's acceptable to treat those people differently than if they were straight? That's the bottom line. Discrimination, for the most part these days, has been ironed out. Attitudes, however, have not.
Wow you hit the nail on the head sparks gone everywhere.
RockWell 08-17-06, - 11:11 AM SMT @ thread.
SMT @ thread.
according to tennis boy me and you supposed to be homophobiacs .. :cheers:
Bahamasinmyheart 08-17-06, - 11:16 AM :cheers: :tup:
While I won't argue your point, I'd like to make one of my own. It's true, you can't "force" someone to like someone else's differences. However, a lot of those examples that were listed weren't so much to do with discrimination as it had to do with violence based on that said dislike. Why does that happen? Well, here's a scenario: little Johnny overhears his parents talking about how sinful gays and lesbians are, and they strongly disagree with their lives. Without explaining the importance of respect for one other's privacy, lives, or elsewhat (if that's even a word lol), little Johnny decides that "well, those gays and lesbians sound like awful creatures, and don't deserve to live". So, as he gets older, he develops this hatred that festers until he finds himself a victim. And the rest is left up to the newspaper headlines. Get my drift?
It's not so much whether you agree or disagree with the choices people make in life, but how you react to it, and how you teach your children to deal with it. You may accept it, or you may not. If you don't, though, would you condone violence against those people? More importantly, would you teach your children that it's acceptable to treat those people differently than if they were straight? That's the bottom line. Discrimination, for the most part these days, has been ironed out. Attitudes, however, have not.
nationbuilder 08-17-06, - 11:25 AM SMT @ thread.
lol!
nationbuilder 08-17-06, - 11:35 AM While I won't argue your point, I'd like to make one of my own. It's true, you can't "force" someone to like someone else's differences. However, a lot of those examples that were listed weren't so much to do with discrimination as it had to do with violence based on that said dislike. Why does that happen? Well, here's a scenario: little Johnny overhears his parents talking about how sinful gays and lesbians are, and they strongly disagree with their lives. Without explaining the importance of respect for one other's privacy, lives, or elsewhat (if that's even a word lol), little Johnny decides that "well, those gays and lesbians sound like awful creatures, and don't deserve to live". So, as he gets older, he develops this hatred that festers until he finds himself a victim. And the rest is left up to the newspaper headlines. Get my drift?
It's not so much whether you agree or disagree with the choices people make in life, but how you react to it, and how you teach your children to deal with it. You may accept it, or you may not. If you don't, though, would you condone violence against those people? More importantly, would you teach your children that it's acceptable to treat those people differently than if they were straight? That's the bottom line. Discrimination, for the most part these days, has been ironed out. Attitudes, however, have not.
Tru. At the same time though, teaching your children that certain lifestyles are wrong doesnt mean you are teaching hate either. The two dont necessarily match.
I can teach my child for instance that stealing is wrong, lying is wrong, adultery is wrong - that doesnt mean I'm teaching them to go out and kill someone who does these things. All lessons we teach, no matter what they are, should be FULLY taught, otherwise there is always a risk of going away with a wrong message.
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