Perfect example of the christian rights inability to respect other peoples religions and opinions. I dont care what your bible says (or your Koran, or book of mormon, or ancient druidic scripture...etc..). Why do you continue to insist on forcing your personal religious opinions onto me. This is the problem with you christian right wingers.... its not enough to be able to be free to believe what you want...(by all means go ahead)..the problem is that you want everyone to live by your religions rules (laws) even if we dont share in your beliefs.
:bye:

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This thread is not to force my beliefs on you. I simply stated the event of Save the Family b/c addais asked....if you have a problem with what was said I can't help you. If you feel that someone judged you or forcing anything down your throat that's your problem...it's apparent you have issues in your life with other persons and you need to deal with it with those persons, instead of transferring them....



This thread is not to force your beliefs on me? Thats a Lie.


Rex Major wants people to come and support the movement to assist in a constitution which keeps the union of marriage between a man and a woman only. It's this Sunday, August 27th at 6:30pm by Rawson Square.


Your religion.......imposing its beliefs.....on everyone else.

Perfect example of the christian rights inability to respect other peoples religions and opinions. I dont care what your bible says (or your Koran, or book of mormon, or ancient druidic scripture...etc..). Why do you continue to insist on forcing your personal religious opinions onto me. This is the problem with you christian right wingers.... its not enough to be able to be free to believe what you want...(by all means go ahead)..the problem is that you want everyone to live by your religions rules (laws) even if we dont share in your beliefs.
:bye:

I know I said I wasn't gonna, but I gatta respond to this.

Christians are commanded to LOVE ALL MANKIND. And its because of this that we CANNOT sit by and watch our fellow man walk the path of destruction!

Its like a parent, who through experience, knows the way their children should go, and when they see them going wrong, they just can't sit by and watch them perish!

We realize alot of you don't believe in the Bible or its principles, but we are just trying to help you see the light. We KNOW the bible and its teaching are REAL. We applied it to our lives, we live according to the Words or God, we feel His presence, we listen to that soft sweet voice which guides and directs us, and it WORKS! THATS ALL THE PROOF WE NEED! We try Him and he is faithful to His word.

All we want is for you, our brother, to experince to same joy that we have.
Many Christians today, have been through it all, allof these different beliefs, standards, perceptions,religions, fads, addictions,etc., and their testimonies today, is that there is none like God. We don't want to see you perish.

So we will continue to pray for you, and love you. And there is nothing you can do about it!

I know I said I wasn't gonna, but I gatta respond to this.
Christians are commanded to LOVE ALL MANKIND. And its because of this that we CANNOT sit by and watch our fellow man walk the path of destruction!
Its like a parent, who through experience, knows the way their children should go, and when they see them going wrong, they just can't sit by and watch them perish!
We realize alot of you don't believe in the Bible or its principles, but we are just trying to help you see the light. We KNOW the bible and its teaching are REAL. We applied it to our lives, we live according to the Words or God, we feel His presence, we listen to that soft sweet voice which guides and directs us, and it WORKS! THATS ALL THE PROOF WE NEED! We try Him and he is faithful to His word.
All we want is for you, our brother, to experince to same joy that we have.
Many Christians today, have been through it all, allof these different beliefs, standards, perceptions,religions, fads, addictions,etc., and their testimonies today, is that there is none like God. We don't want to see you perish.
So we will continue to pray for you, and love you. And there is nothing you can do about it!

:lafs:

Y'all are loving us to death!!! (lol). I too believe in god and the devil and all that falls between btw. I just dont think i need to force my personal beliefs down anyones throat or force them to legally live by my religions tenents. If you really love me can you do me a favor and love me from a little more distance (siberia comes to mind) and without all the prejudice. Maybe y'all should consider courting us first ..... buy a brotha a drink and a good meal, u know what they say about the way to a mans heart!... it might help before you (lovingly) smother me with your version of christian love, bible interpretations?

The Poopdeck is nice. I'll take a skyjuice and some grilled conch.

;)

You obviously dont understand the meaning of the word logic. My explanation of Cain and his taking of a wife, was a method of reasoning based on information that is provided in the bible. I dont purport it as truth, but it makes sense when one utilizes the information given in the bible no it means you have filled in the gaps to suits your needs. How about the method that there were other humans on earth so when Cain went to Nod he found another human.
The bible clearly states the age of Adam. The Bible clearly referance the unicorn as well still don't make it real. Now look at history. How did the people know Adam was 900 years old what calander system did they use. sorry a group of stone age tribsmen sitting around a fire trying to explain their existance to each other are no match for scientific data. Its only a story. Just like Noah and the exodus of the Jewish slaves of Egypt. There is not one recored of a mass of Isrealite slaves or Isrealite slaves leaving Egypt. Obviously you dont believe the information in the bible, fair enough. your eyes are finaly opened. I don't take the Bible as an absolute truth or word of the Creator. It contains it that is clear. Just as in the Quaran, Torah, teaching of Buddha and other religious teachings. Hence any information that I utilize from the bible for explanation is a futile attempt, not really I am open to learn but don't think that means I blindly accept. if you alredy dont believe what is written.
I was making no inference to GBLT, I was responding directly to the questions on Cain and Adam. I dont care for the debate on GLBT.

You were defending the Adam and Eve story twisting it against GLBT. I simply put facts in place.

I know I said I wasn't gonna, but I gatta respond to this.
Christians are commanded to LOVE ALL MANKIND. And its because of this that we CANNOT sit by and watch our fellow man walk the path of destruction!So then you force us to fall in line with your belief. Wow sounds like the Taliban. That is all Osama is doing for the love of God and man kind.
Its like a parent, who through experience, knows the way their children should go, and when they see them going wrong, they just can't sit by and watch them perish! Yet the parrent can't prove the reason why other than it is what they believe. Like a parrent teaching a child the world is flat.
We realize alot of you don't believe in the Bible or its principles, but we are just trying to help you see the light.by making us second class citizens?!? We KNOW the bible and its teaching are REAL.Thats right the Bible is real you can see it and touch it. But as for it being truth you can't prove it or anything in it. You want us to believe just because you say so and if not you will treat us diffenently than you your self want to be treated. We applied it to our lives, we live according to the Words or God, [/QUOT]You do?!? It states in the Bible you should not wear clothing of mixed fiber, That every house is to have a railing around the roof, That you should wear tassals on your 4 quarters, That a father can sell his daughter into slavery, That you can own slaves as long as they come from another country, and Adulteres are to be stoned to death. Yep you sure live by the Bible alright. [QUOTE=will2274]we feel His presence, we listen to that soft sweet voice which guides and directs us, and it WORKS! THATS ALL THE PROOF WE NEED! My sister in law hears voices as well. But she goes to a clinic for a shot every 2 weeks We try Him and he is faithful to His word.
All we want is for you, our brother, to experince to same joy that we have.
Many Christians today, have been through it all, allof these different beliefs, standards, perceptions,religions, fads, addictions,etc., and their testimonies today, is that there is none like God. We don't want to see you perish.
So we will continue to pray for you, and love you. And there is nothing you can do about it!

That is so cool thank you but don't make us second class citizens if we don't want to fall in line with your beliefs. Would you want that done to you if you were in a country of a different religion such as Islam?????

So then you force us to fall in line with your belief. Wow sounds like the Taliban. That is all Osama is doing for the love of God and man kind. Yet the parrent can't prove the reason why other than it is what they believe. Like a parrent teaching a child the world is flat. by making us second class citizens?!? Thats right the Bible is real you can see it and touch it. But as for it being truth you can't prove it or anything in it. You want us to believe just because you say so and if not you will treat us diffenently than you your self want to be treated. We applied it to our lives, we live according to the Words or God, You do?!? It states in the Bible you should not wear clothing of mixed fiber, That every house is to have a railing around the roof, That you should wear tassals on your 4 quarters, That a father can sell his daughter into slavery, That you can own slaves as long as they come from another country, and Adulteres are to be stoned to death. Yep you sure live by the Bible alright. My sister in law hears voices as well. But she goes to a clinic for a shot every 2 weeks
That is so cool thank you but don't make us second class citizens if we don't want to fall in line with your beliefs. Would you want that done to you if you were in a country of a different religion such as Islam?????

Vicky, Vicky, Vicky, you are hilarious.LOL!

:lafs:

Y'all are loving us to death!!! (lol). I too believe in god and the devil and all that falls between btw. I just dont think i need to force my personal beliefs down anyones throat or force them to legally live by my religions tenents. If you really love me can you do me a favor and love me from a little more distance (siberia comes to mind) and without all the prejudice. Maybe y'all should consider courting us first ..... buy a brotha a drink and a good meal, u know what they say about the way to a mans heart!... it might help before you (lovingly) smother me with your version of christian love, bible interpretations?

The Poopdeck is nice. I'll take a skyjuice and some grilled conch.

;)



What! You believe in God and the devil! And yet you still live contrary?

You're just rebellious!

He that knoweth right and doeth wrong, shall be wiped with many stripes.

You were defending the Adam and Eve story twisting it against GLBT. I simply put facts in place.


You are making an assumption about my intentions, despite the fact that I never mentioned GLBT, or made any reference to them. I even went on to say that I had no interest in a debate about GLBT persons. You lack the ability to detach GLBT issues from almost any discussion.

You are no reservoir of the facts yourself, just your own reasoning, opinions, and bias, just like everyone else.

What! You believe in God and the devil! And yet you still live contrary?
You're just rebellious!
He that knoweth right and doeth wrong, shall be wiped with many stripes.


Well.... i am rebellious.

But my beliefs are only contrary to what you believe/think/or even think you "know"..... Do you see the difference? My faith is my own. Yours is your own. I can and do respect that. Can you do the same for me?

Faith is an individual thing. We do not live in a theocracy. People should respect each others freedoms of religion.. . . . and make sure they dont write laws that are biased one way or the other.

You are making an assumption about my intentions, despite the fact that I never mentioned GLBT, or made any reference to them. I even went on to say that I had no interest in a debate about GLBT persons. You lack the ability to detach GLBT issues from almost any discussion.
You are no reservoir of the facts yourself, just your own reasoning, opinions, and bias, just like everyone else.

This whole thread in anti GLBT. What are your intentions??
No I simply pointed out that is not what is in the Bible and made the point that if you can fill in the gaps as you please so can I.

I know I said I wasn't gonna, but I gatta respond to this.
Christians are commanded to LOVE ALL MANKIND. And its because of this that we CANNOT sit by and watch our fellow man walk the path of destruction!
Its like a parent, who through experience, knows the way their children should go, and when they see them going wrong, they just can't sit by and watch them perish!
We realize alot of you don't believe in the Bible or its principles, but we are just trying to help you see the light. We KNOW the bible and its teaching are REAL. We applied it to our lives, we live according to the Words or God, we feel His presence, we listen to that soft sweet voice which guides and directs us, and it WORKS! THATS ALL THE PROOF WE NEED! We try Him and he is faithful to His word.
All we want is for you, our brother, to experince to same joy that we have.
Many Christians today, have been through it all, allof these different beliefs, standards, perceptions,religions, fads, addictions,etc., and their testimonies today, is that there is none like God. We don't want to see you perish.
So we will continue to pray for you, and love you. And there is nothing you can do about it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard#The_attack

They loved him big time I guess.

Shortly after midnight on October 7, 1998, 21-year-old Shepard met McKinney and Henderson in a bar. According to McKinney, Shepard asked them for a ride home. Subsequently, Shepard was robbed, severely beaten, tied to a fence and left to die. McKinney and Henderson also found out his address, intending to burgle his home. Shepard was discovered by a bicyclist 18 hours later, still alive but unconscious.

Shepard suffered a fracture from the back of his head to the front of his right ear. He also had severe brain stem damage, which affected his body's ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature and other vital signs. There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face and neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. He was pronounced dead at 12:53 a.m. on October 12 at Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins, Colorado. Police arrested McKinney and Henderson shortly thereafter, finding the bloody gun as well as the victim's shoes and wallet in their truck. The two men had attempted to get their girlfriends to provide alibis.

After the attack, the prosecutor told reporters that Shepard's friends had been vocal about Shepard's sexuality: "They were calling the County Attorney's office, they were calling the media and indicating Matthew Shepard is gay and we don't want the fact that he is gay to go unnoticed."

"Christians are commanded to LOVE ALL MANKIND. And its because of this that we CANNOT sit by and watch our fellow man walk the path of destruction!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Teena
In 1993 Brandon, being female-to-male, identified and lived as a man. He was dating a local woman named Lana Tisdel. On Christmas Day, two acquaintances - John Lotter and Marvin Thomas Nissen - discovered that Brandon had been born female and raped him in Falls City, Nebraska. Brandon reported the rape to the local sheriff, Charles B. Laux, who dismissed the allegations despite overwhelming medical evidence. When Lotter and Nissen discovered that Brandon had gone to the police, they murdered him, Lisa Lambert, the woman with whom he was staying, and her friend, a black disabled man named Philip DeVine, on December 31, 1993.

"Its like a parent, who through experience, knows the way their children should go, and when they see them going wrong, they just can't sit by and watch them perish!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Araujo
At the party on (October 3, 2002) it was discovered, by forced inspection (conducted by a young woman at the party), that Araujo had male genitalia. In an explosion of activity, the men that she had sexual relations with became extremely agitated. Once it was discovered that Gwen Araujo was biologically male, Mike Magidson began choking her in the hallway of the house. At this point numerous guests left the residence. Jose Merel and Jaron Nabors remained inside the residence with Mike Magidson. Jason Cazares claimed to go outside at this point, however he did not leave because he had arrived in Mike Magidson's truck. Once everyone left, the three assailants began assaulting her. Jose Merel struck her on the head with a frying pan and then struck again with a can of tomatoes, causing a gash to her head which bled profusely. Jaron Nabors struck her with a barbell weight. Mike Magidson kneed her in the head against the living room wall. The blow was so forceful that her head caused an indentation in the plaster wall. After some time in the living room, Araujo was then taken to the garage of the home, where she was strangled by a rope (stories conflict as to whether Mike Magidson or Jaron Nabors strangled the victim). Most accounts have Jose Merel cleaning blood out of the carpet at the time she was strangled. She was then hog-tied, wrapped in a blanket and placed in the bed of a pick-up truck. The three assailants, plus Jason Cazares drove her body to parkland in El Dorado County, California, a wooded area in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada known as Silver Fork, where she was finally buried in a shallow grave. It is not clear at what point during this sequence of events Araujo's death occurred. However the autopsy showed that she died from strangulation associated with blunt force trauma to the head.

If that is love Pleaseee please I beg of you don't love me

http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/burning.html
St. Augustine (354-430) declared that heretics, pagans, and Jews would burn forever in eternal fire unless saved by the Catholic Church. Partially as a result of this declaration, victims were burned to death in order to give them a taste of what was coming.

With christian love like this who needs enemies
http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/index.html

http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/burning.html
St. Augustine (354-430) declared that heretics, pagans, and Jews would burn forever in eternal fire unless saved by the Catholic Church. Partially as a result of this declaration, victims were burned to death in order to give them a taste of what was coming.
With christian love like this who needs enemies
http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/index.html

Now I see why believe what you believe!

You look at what the Catholics did(doing), and think thats what Christianity is all about!

Catholics don't know the first thing about Christianity-they worship Mary for goodness sake!

The catholics are totally lost!:shhh:

Now I see why believe what you believe!
You look at what the Catholics did(doing), and think thats what Christianity is all about!
Catholics don't know the first thing about Christianity-they worship Mary for goodness sake!
The catholics are totally lost!:shhh:

Not just catholics. All who use the Bible as a weapon against other human beings.