Should they have used a human Baby!?! I am proof of that. Oh and what do you call this phenomena!?!


You can't being stupid can you??

No, they should've used a chimpanzee at least. Some animal with the same reproductive and sexual proclivities of humans. There are many of them.

Its called amorphism. But you already know that. As I've said we've discussed it before.

So you could have been taught to be a girl!?! It did not work for David Reimer http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/reimer/
I remember I was a girl even though my body was boy since th 4th grade thats about 8 I guess. I had to learn how to be a boy it did not come natural to me. I did not know what it was called till I was 35. The experiment see the link above. It proves that the gender (sexual) identity of a boy who had his penis removed at 18 month could not be brought up as a girl or homosexual. Thus gender (sexual) identity is not a learned behaviour. If it were he would have learned to be a girl and like boys as that is what he was taught from 18 months of age. And using your theory who teaches their children that they are the oppisite gender (sexual) identity. Why you teach your son he is a girl!?!.
I aksed you before where did my gender (sexual) identity come from. I am proof of that


Being a boy doesn't come naturally for anyone. If you were raised by wolves you would never become a boy. You would never be homosexual, heterosexual or transgender. None of it is natural. It is all nurture.

And we've already discussed that idiocy, don't bother bringing it up again.

Being a boy doesn't come naturally for anyone. If you were raised by wolves you would never become a boy. You would never be homosexual, heterosexual or transgender. None of it is natural. It is all nurture.
And we've already discussed that idiocy, don't bother bringing it up again.
Why.......with your obvious intelligence and education do you continue to waste your time arguing with a fanatic? This person has a burning agenda as strong as any and cannot be reasoned with.Try Bahamasinmyheart,at least he is reasonable and logical in his thought process.:confused:

I don't look at it as arguing with Vicky.

There are others reading this haven't really formed an opinion but the matter weighs heavily on their minds. These people vote. They have children. They're a normal part of society. I don't believe its wise to allow ignorance to be the sole influence on the minds of those that are uncertain. Most of those people may only see one side of the coin. I'm trying to introduce ideas that allow them to look at the issue from a practical perspective. That way they aren't easily swayed when they go to the voting polls.

Some people even believe that if you don't agree with certain behavior that it makes you a bigot or that you harbor intense hatred for people that aren't like you. I personally don't want to be labelled as homophobic simply because their arguments defy logic and intelligence. I can accept the GLBT lifestyle as long as they don't try to undermine my intelligence by trying to convince me that they are justified in their behavior because they are born that way or whatever other confounded logic that they use ridiculous scientific analyses to conjure -- analyses that have been rejected by the scientific community time and time again for being baseless and biased.

Lord why is it that just about every thread at some point gotta go to this subject matter man? And I thought we had a problem with political hacks on here....:wipe:

Every other thread gotta end up crashing and burning over the "GLBT" label. SMT

This thread is not about you, in fact, I don't know how it turned to you and your invisble female gender but that's what happens when you get in any topic.
If you feel I disrespect you because I don't believe you are biologically a female...what can I say....that's life!!! You can not force me to believe that and when I don't you say I am disrespectful LOLOLOL
BTW, I would want someone to be truthful to me.

I don't trun threads to me or GLBT if you research the threads you will see this. Others bring it up when people say all manner of evil against GLBT and I will not let it go unchallanged.
I am being truthfull I am a transgender male to female woman. Any which way do as you chooes but my name is not Victor. You want to confirm that ask CG he knows me from church days. My middle name is Evon (pernounced Yvonne) yes my mother knew something I guess.

What's with the shouting...I guess I stepped on some well-manicure painted male toes.and fingers to O.P.I. Cha-Ching Cherry to be exact
Jesus asked us to treat others as we would like to be treated but He also said that we can't always give others what they want,really where chapter and verse please. sometimes it's not right for them, He also wants us to speak the truth...as I see it from what you explained...you are a male and I won't play into your deception...like I said this thread is not about you.

You can't being stupid can you??
No, they should've used a chimpanzee at least. Some animal with the same reproductive and sexual proclivities of humans. There are many of them.
Its called amorphism. But you already know that. As I've said we've discussed it before.

You can play word games all you want it changes nothing. I use the medical political and commonly correct terms as I have studied the subject which you have not.

If I were to use some of the real medical terms you and others would be lost.

really where chapter and verse please.


hmmm basic bible verses, don't lie etc etc...

Why.......with your obvious intelligence and education do you continue to waste your time arguing with a fanatic? This person has a burning agenda as strong as any and cannot be reasoned with.Try Bahamasinmyheart,at least he is reasonable and logical in his thought process.:confused:

I suppose Columbus was a fanatic also.
How much have you studied on the subject to make this comment. Probably only what you have read here.

I suppose Columbus was a fanatic also.

You obsessed with Columbus eh? Cuz you stay comin round here with ya tired ole "and they believed the world was flat..." mantra. Lemme call Keod Smith for you lol...:sailing:

Being a boy doesn't come naturally for anyone. If you were raised by wolves you would never become a boy. You would never be homosexual, heterosexual or transgender. None of it is natural. It is all nurture.
And we've already discussed that idiocy, don't bother bringing it up again.

So why didn't David Reimer learn to be Brenda??? If its that simple. he was brought up as Brenda for the first 12 years of his life. How did he know he was not a girl and that he was not sexualy attracted to boys.

and again oh great wise one what caused me and others to be transgender???
How come I we felt this way from a young age??

I don't look at it as arguing with Vicky.
There are others reading this haven't really formed an opinion but the matter weighs heavily on their minds. These people vote. They have children. They're a normal part of society. I don't believe its wise to allow ignorance to be the sole influence on the minds of those that are uncertain. Most of those people may only see one side of the coin. I'm trying to introduce ideas that allow them to look at the issue from a practical perspective. That way they aren't easily swayed when they go to the voting polls.
Some people even believe that if you don't agree with certain behavior that it makes you a bigot or that you harbor intense hatred for people that aren't like you. I personally don't want to be labelled as homophobic simply because their arguments defy logic and intelligence. I can accept the GLBT lifestyle as long as they don't try to undermine my intelligence by trying to convince me that they are justified in their behavior because they are born that way or whatever other confounded logic that they use ridiculous scientific analyses to conjure -- analyses that have been rejected by the scientific community time and time again for being baseless and biased.


So let me see if i summed up your positon correctly. You say your "not homophobic and that you can actually accept the GLBT lifestyle".

Just so long as we (gays) dont try to believe that were not socially deviant sexual predators whos souls are condemned to hell. So your cool with us right......but only so long as we accept what you opine is our predetermined destinies in hell according to your opinions/thoughts/beliefs?

So as long as we (who are actually gay) and who just happen to know what that means for us..... dont try to pass off as being born that way to you and others.....because... well....because you the all knowing and straight .....Mikki says so.....you cool with us right?

Or am i misreading your comments from above?

With people so cool with us like you.....we might as well say the battle is over and move onto other things.

Your ignorance is so profound.

But im glad you continue to rattle on so that i can punch holes right thru your logic. Its so easy to do. Why? Because one of us is arguing for prejudice and hate and for the enactment of laws against the other....and the other is arguing for freedom to be left alone.

You may win over many...even the majority.....hell Bush won the presidency. But that will never make your position one of fairness and or integrity.

Lord why is it that just about every thread at some point gotta go to this subject matter man? And I thought we had a problem with political hacks on here....:wipe:
Every other thread gotta end up crashing and burning over the "GLBT" label. SMT

I don't get it either but I will not let them get away with bashing us.

hmmm basic bible verses, don't lie etc etc...

ok then post it teach me