^^ A constitutional change to what??

I have yet to find out what definitions they'd have us use in order to change the laws.

Its a matter of time and its not something we are pushing it will have to be something the couple wants. Most just fly up to Canada or some place same sex union is Legal and there is nothing on the laws books that says same sex unions are not recognized.


Why fly up to Canada or esle where why not here if you say it can be done here???

TRADITION! Slavery was a tradition it’s even sanctioned by the Bible why is it out lawed in the Bahamas?? Traditionally it was believed the world was flat. Is it??? Traditionally it was believed left handed people were workers of Satan. Are they?? Traditionally it was believed that people who knew bush medicine were witches. So much for traditions. In the days before the written word, it was handed down from generation to generation.Ever played the circle game in school?? Your class would sit in a circle and one would tell a short story and it is sent around the circle by word of moth. When it gets back to the beginning it a very different story. Can you imagine generations??? You are an abomination,albeit, one that most are willing to openly accept, As long as we are invisible, as long as when we get fired for being GLBT we keep quiet, As long as when we GLBT are beaten up or murdered we keep quiet. As long as we accept being treated like second class citizens. Sorry for you but that is coming to an end world wide.. but where do you or anyone get the collossal nerve to demand,leave mind suggest that the majority of society should redefine a basic building block of our society, to suit your own need?That is how change is made. Because the majority is not always right I do not rule it out in good time,after your kind has proven their societal value,we have proven our worth over and over again. We have jobs own businesses buy and build home send our kids to school we are Drs, lawyers, police, cashiers, road workers, and sanitation workers. Name the profession and we are there.
it may come to pass,but to stand on your soap box and demand constitutional change?:mad:

Its coming and some in my generation may see it..

Why fly up to Canada or esle where why not here if you say it can be done here???

not everyone wants their union marred by a long court case. Would you??

You don't read the Bible do you.


I am wondering if you read the bible yourself or if you just cut and paste. Nowhere in that passage did the bible indicate that the dead's man's brother is married himself, it does NOT say that he is married...can you prove it???


We been through the Adam and Eve story already and its just a story. It is not law or a referance for marriage


If God, Himself made Eve, He put them in union HIMSELF told them to be fruitful and multiply....He gave them permission to do things which husband and wife does....He ordained them....if that's not a reference for marriage I don't know what is...stop lying to yourself just so you can be right in you own mind.


Uh In context this is a referance of divorce.


And what is divorce in reference to....BEING MARRIED


Jesus was responding to a question of divorce not marriage.


You are missing the point Jesus is talking about divorce AND MARRIAGE if you notice He is talking about one man and one woman in a marriage, which indicates, that Jesus is setting the standard for marriage. Did you read what Jesus say or did you read what you wanted to see?

Matt 19: "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

It can not be any clearer than that...Jesus is talking about a MAN and A WOMAN together in a MARRIAGE!!!! He has clearly set the standard of what He wants a marriage to be which is proving my point...please have nothing to say to me about this topic, this is as clear as daylight and you are deliberately misunderstanding it because it goes agianst your stand at RAB/GLBT.

If I don't response to any of your comments after this it's not because I believe you are right but it's because you are not a debate candidate for me....[B]you lack understanding of clear and obvious points and I refuse to waste my time on your ignorance.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:


It can not be any clearer but let those who have eyes see....

It can not be any clearer but let those who have eyes see....

do you believe that gays who want some form of union,..or whatever we wish to call it deserve the same rights as a "christian" married couple?

Cause i think thats really the argument here.

Cause diffrent sides will argue what is moral and immoral what is right and whats not....but the bottom line really is a matter of preserving human rights for all people GAY BI HETEREOSEXUAL LESBIAN BLACK WHITE>etc.

do you believe that gays who want some form of union,..or whatever we wish to call it deserve the same rights as a "christian" married couple?
Cause i think thats really the argument here.
Cause diffrent sides will argue what is moral and immoral what is right and whats not....but the bottom line really is a matter of preserving human rights for all people GAY BI HETEREOSEXUAL LESBIAN BLACK WHITE>etc.


As I said in the beginning I believe marriage is sacred between a man and a woman. Now if homosexuals want to be married for legal benefits such as making medical discussion if one is comatous, splitting cups and plates if the relationship doesn't work then maybe a different legal process should be created.

Its a matter of time and its not something we are pushing it will have to be something the couple wants. Most just fly up to Canada or some place same sex union is Legal and there is nothing on the laws books that says same sex unions are not recognized.
:what: Stap lie bey, you really take the BI community for fools. SMDT!

If I was not already married I would have the first Tg to wife marriage.
:uh: Well have you never heard about renewing your vows?

I am wondering if you read the bible yourself or if you just cut and paste. Nowhere in that passage did the bible indicate that the dead's man's brother is married himself, it does NOT say that he is married...can you prove it??? There is no referance if the brother is married or not. Thus the brother takes the sister in law as with wether he is married or not. The point is wether he or she wants it or not. Thats Biblical marriage.
If God, Himself made Eve, He put them in union HIMSELF told them to be fruitful and multiply....He gave them permission to do things which husband and wife does....He ordained them....if that's not a reference for marriage I don't know what is...stop lying to yourself just so you can be right in you own mind.You can try and make the Bible read as you want it to but facts are what the are. Bibilical marriage was not just 1 man 1 woman There is not even a law that states this. But there are laws that referance a man having more than 1 wife. So please try again
And what is divorce in reference to....BEING MARRIED
You are missing the point Jesus is talking about divorce AND MARRIAGE if you notice He is talking about one man and one woman in a marriage, which indicates, that Jesus is setting the standard for marriage. Did you read what Jesus say or did you read what you wanted to see?
Matt 19: "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."lets try this.
Matthew 19:8 (King James Version)
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

wives=more than one

If it was a referance for 1 man 1 woman it would read like this.

Matthew 19:8 (King James Version)
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wife: but from the beginning it was not so.


It can not be any clearer than that...Jesus is talking about a MAN and A WOMAN together in a MARRIAGE!!!! He has clearly set the standard of what He wants a marriage to be which is proving my point...please have nothing to say to me about this topic, this is as clear as daylight and you are deliberately misunderstanding it because it goes agianst your stand at RAB/GLBT.
If I don't response to any of your comments after this it's not because I believe you are right but it's because you are not a debate candidate for me....[B]you lack understanding of clear and obvious points and I refuse to waste my time on your ignorance.

Actually its you who want to make the Bible say what you want and can't handel when it is pointed out that it does not say it. You repeat over and over again like the words in the Bible are going to change.

There is no referance if the brother is married or not. Thus the brother takes the sister in law as with wether he is married or not. The point is wether he or she wants it or not. Thats Biblical marriage. You can try and make the Bible read as you want it to but facts are what the are. Bibilical marriage was not just 1 man 1 woman There is not even a law that states this. But there are laws that referance a man having more than 1 wife. So please try againlets try this.
Matthew 19:8 (King James Version)
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

wives=more than one

If it was a referance for 1 man 1 woman it would read like this.

Matthew 19:8 (King James Version)
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wife: but from the beginning it was not so.


Actually its you who want to make the Bible say what you want and can't handel when it is pointed out that it does not say it. You repeat over and over again like the words in the Bible are going to change.


HAHAHAHA!!!!!


You are retarded.

"Because of the hardness of your *HEARTS*" -- obviously meaning plural. And "..said unto *THEM*".

Them and hearts are plural. If he was speaking to an individual he wouldn't have said "Them" or "Hearts". But because he was, he has to say "wives".

HAHAHAHA!!!!!
You are retarded.
"Because of the hardness of your *HEARTS*" -- obviously meaning plural. And "..said unto *THEM*".
Them and hearts are plural. If he was speaking to an individual he wouldn't have said "Them" or "Hearts". But because he was, he has to say "wives".


Obviously, you took your English class seriously, Vic missed couple classes, he don't understand basic English and he been speaking it for x amount of years :dunce:

HEARTS = MORE THAN ONE...HOW MANY HEARTS DOES ONE MAN HAVE? Obviously Jesus was talking to more than one man and equate these men to their wives :dunce: :dunce:

Yinna dn't play fair! :D

Yinna dn't play fair! :D
You said it Bey.....fair! It een about right and wrong wit this bunch,as much as it is about "fairness"! Well life isn't always fair,sometime you jus gotta play wit da hand the lord dealt you and deal wit it!:yoyo: