If God wanted homosexaulity union, he would create Adam and Steve but no He didn't He, Himself created ADAM AND EVE...it was man years after the creation decided to love man and man, remember after Adam fallen, God gave us freedom of choice but it was NOT God's orginal plan!!!!
You are missing the point, in the beginning, the way how God designed the human body only a man and a woman can procreate...hence the human race, if you had homosexuals only in the beginning there would be no race!!!! Of course we are here now because Adam and Eve started things off FIRST!!!! In the beginning there was no mention of homosexuals, I think around Noah days you first start hearing about it and that was years and years after creation and when you had thousands and thousands of people on the earth....by that time the earth was washed away and you started over again with guess what man and woman!!!!


Your missing the point.....i dont believe in your religion as you have interpreted it. its your religion you believe what you want. Now starting from there as a foundation. Why are you telling me how/if/and why i cannot and should not be getting married because your pastor/god/religion, interpretation tells you i cant?

Assuming the patient is not in a coma or out from drugs and able to make their will known and the family is there and also willing to allow it and not block you. Not just a theoretical this happens.


That boils down to you and the family. If you have a good relationship with them then good, you are welcomed.


Right….and I only meant it as to be an unwelcome barrier. People unwelcome at funerals all the time…. Sweethearts, sweethearts kids…..etc etc…


That's my point, they may not be welcomed but they still come, nothing you can do about it.


I respect what you believe but what does YOUR Christian faith have to do with my right to marry or not marry. YOUR religion is not the only religion in the world and you religions anti gay position does not mean the whole world should have to live by its standards. Atheist, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Budhist….ect…. all believe different things (or nothing at all) and what right do you have to prevent another that does not share you beliefs ….from getting married?


The Bahamas is a Christian nation. That means the nation recognizes Christianity as it's offical religion, we practise Christianity...doesn't mean everyone is a Christian, doesn't mean everyone is forced to be a Christian and doesn't mean everyone that claims to be from the Bahamas is a Christian. The Laws of The Bahamas recognizes the Christian Faith, the majority of its laws are compose from Christianity. So, even though, you maybe a Jew, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist if you are living in The Bahamas you must respect its Laws which happens to be Christian!!! My beliefs and rights happens in this situation to be in agreement with the law of the land. If you don't like The Bahamas and Christianity you are welcomed to stay were you are in America.


I wouldn’t rally. Because I believe you have the right to say what you want and think what you want. I also think the Klan has the right to say and think what they want. I just don’t want my political leaders and the communities moral leaders agreeing with that kind of hate and prejudice.


This was a peacful demo, no one has physically attacked anyone, you can not compare this to KKK, points were being made for particular heterosexual and our concerns, it was not about banning homosexuals, if we feel that it is our rights BASED ON THE LAW ON THE LAND to continue to protect what is sacred to us then we should be able to do that!!!


Its def sacred…I too believe that.....Wouldnt just get married on a lark......but your looking at it thru christian colored lens and now you want (demand) me to look at it that way also. Why must I?


I'm not demanding you to look at anything in my view. I said before this is not an attack on homosexuality, I never said BAN GAYS, I only said marriage should remain for a man and a woman....don't get it twisted.

Your missing the point.....i dont believe in your religion as you have interpreted it. its your religion you believe what you want. Now starting from there as a foundation. Why are you telling me how/if/and why i cannot and should not be getting married because your pastor/god/religion, interpretation tells you i cant?


If you don't believe in Christianity or God, I am wasting my time explaining to you why I believe in opposite sex marriage because my reasoning comes from my belief in God's Word. CASE CLOSED!!!

Why would anyone who dn't believe in christianity or another religion with the same principles want to get married? :dgi:

Why would anyone who dn't believe in christianity or another religion with the same principles want to get married? :dgi:


It's beyond me but they do..I think some legal means, bahamasinmyheart explains some in previous posts.

Your missing the point.....i dont believe in your religion as you have interpreted it. its your religion you believe what you want. Now starting from there as a foundation. Why are you telling me how/if/and why i cannot and should not be getting married because your pastor/god/religion, interpretation tells you i cant?


You do know and understand that marriage had a religious birth right? Marriage may have attained a legal definition and standing but it was religious in its original manifestation. That being said for a judge to rule as to what and how a religious ceremony should be is analogous to a neonazi defining what our civil rights should be.

You do know and understand that marriage had a religious birth right? Marriage may have attained a legal definition and standing but it was religious in its original manifestation. That being said for a judge to rule as to what and how a religious ceremony should be is analogous to a neonazi defining what our civil rights should be.


agreed 100%. I think you have pretty much summed it up.

Im talking about Marriage as a symbolic ceremony of two peoples devotion to each other (and the legal benefits and requirements that attach). Marriage has moved far beyond what appears to be somes religious understandings. I'm not looking to be baptized at your church. Or any of the other ceremonys or other benefits that one who is a member of your church enjoys. Im talking about marriage as an institution which should not be defined by any one religion.

If you don't believe in Christianity or God, I am wasting my time explaining to you why I believe in opposite sex marriage because my reasoning comes from my belief in God's Word. CASE CLOSED!!!



Its too simplistic to say I "believe" in god ...its far more serious than that (and i do). I just dont believe what you believe.

agreed 100%. I think you have pretty much summed it up.
Im talking about Marriage as a symbolic ceremony of two peoples devotion to each other (and the legal benefits and requirements that attach). Marriage has moved far beyond what appears to be somes religious understandings. I'm not looking to be baptized at your church. Or any of the other ceremonys or other benefits that one who is a member of your church enjoys. Im talking about marriage as an institution which should not be defined by any one religion.


My feeling is that as marriage is so deeply rooted in its religious significance and gays and lesbians simply want the legal and physical benefits of marriage sans the dirty looks, perhaps it would be better to lobby for some other form of union that did not carry the religious baggage that marriage does. Why if religious persons whose faith hold marriage as sacred have a problem with unreligious persons defining a practice that they hold so dear then just lobby for another option which does not infringe on what so many consider a sacrament. After all gays and lesbians fight hard to not have their rights trampled on. I feel it may be somewhat hypocritical after gaining so much recognition and so many new rights to trample on the rights of so many others.

My feeling is that as marriage is so deeply rooted in its religious significance and gays and lesbians simply want the legal and physical benefits of marriage sans the dirty looks, perhaps it would be better to lobby for some other form of union that did not carry the religious baggage that marriage does. Why if religious persons whose faith hold marriage as sacred have a problem with unreligious persons defining a practice that they hold so dear then just lobby for another option which does not infringe on what so many consider a sacrament. After all gays and lesbians fight hard to not have their rights trampled on. I feel it may be somewhat hypocritical after gaining so much recognition and so many new rights to trample on the rights of so many others.
Somewhat Hypocritical? :taped2:

Somewhat Hypocritical? :taped2:

Watch out, "Truth Doesn't have a Clue" might get it mixed up with Homophobic .. and jump in butt first on this thread also :p

Somewhat Hypocritical? :taped2:


I don't wanna start an argument. I just want him to see that as a gay person who probably feels slighted everytime someone says something out of the way no matter how innocent it may be, he should be able to relate to persons who feel that all they believe and stand for is being threatened. And all for something that is not even that important to the ones posing the threat.

I don't wanna start an argument. I just want him to see that as a gay person who probably feels slighted everytime someone says something out of the way no matter how innocent it may be, he should be able to relate to persons who feel that all they believe and stand for is being threatened. And all for something that is not even that important to the ones posing the threat.
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Equality goes as Equality does. Disclaimer: I aint ovastand a thing I just type and this poster will not be held liable for anyone's interpertation of the facts. :)

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So you're discriminating against your own peeps then?

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