SAY IT AINT SO!
I just got married myself, last month actually, to a beautiful woman. I love her to death. She is also a BI member(go figure).

Sorry I missed this
Hope the both of you get to grow old together and live to see all that you plan to see together.

Talk to her all the time cause when you stop talking to her it is the beginning of the end.
When you argue and there will be arguments remember what you are arguing about and remember how much you love each other so the argument does not enter the love you share. When the argument starts to be come intense take her hand look her in the eyes and say I love you no matter what.

So you are saying that if GLBT are ULTIMATELY ACCEPTED you would have homosexual sex and stop having heterosexual sex??

Sorry no dice!

But selfish thought will cause the destruction. You see persons such as yourself and bahamasinmyheart(how ironic, cause he really don't have the country at heart) and the rest, are thinking selfishly, for the now. But when WE are all dead and gone, what knida Bahamas are YOU trying to leave for future generations.

From what yall trying to accomplish(and I mean the majority of you on this forum) seems to me to be a Bahamas where:

1 - Its alright to be a homo, because the other animals in the wild does it all the time!

2 - Marriage is not to be taken seriously, because it has nothing to do with making a covenant before God, cause it aint religious. Its just about two people who love each other(now), and can end it whenever the other one pisses on the toilet seat!

3 - The Bible and all thats in it is a bunch of lies and fairy tales. You were not created-you only exsist!

Well if thats the Bahamas yall trying to create, thank God I'll be dead!

Sorry I missed this
Hope the both of you get to grow old together and live to see all that you plan to see together.
Talk to her all the time cause when you stop talking to her it is the beginning of the end.
When you argue and there will be arguments remember what you are arguing about and remember how much you love each other so the argument does not enter the love you share. When the argument starts to be come intense take her hand look her in the eyes and say I love you no matter what.

Thanks Vicks, the funny thing is-I feel you mean it!LOL

Kidding, but thanks for the advice, you know we BI people like to argue :angel:

This will probably be my last post on this topic, but right is right and wrong is wrong, and the truth is the truth no matter how much it hurts.

Wrong doesn't become right just because its 2006 and not 1906

And the truth doesn't become a lie just because more peolpe are jumping on your bandwagon

Principles don't change! The same principles that our parents, grandparents and great grands stood for and lived by got all of us here today.

So why, now, we think that we are too "modern" for these same principles.

Saving the family, has to do with saving the traditional family structure, a mother, a father and children. There are already too many other things going on in the world, that causes confusion for our children, than to now try to explain to them why he has two mothers or two fathers.

"Modern" thinking will destroy the family!:sailing:

Sorry no dice! So why do you think other heterosexuals will
But selfish thought will cause the destruction. You see persons such as yourself and bahamasinmyheart(how ironic, cause he really don't have the country at heart) and the rest, are thinking selfishly, for the now. But when WE are all dead and gone, what knida Bahamas are YOU trying to leave for future generations.
From what yall trying to accomplish(and I mean the majority of you on this forum) seems to me to be a Bahamas where:
1 - Its alright to be a homo, because the other animals in the wild does it all the time! Not because of animals but because not every on in the Bahamas is religious or christian or Christian. And all should be equal under the law.
2 - Marriage is not to be taken seriously, because it has nothing to do with making a covenant before God, cause it aint religious. Its just about two people who love each other(now), and can end it whenever the other one pisses on the toilet seat!
A life long union between to people is a very serious thing religious or other wise. If your faith states that you marriage is "a covenant before God" That is your faith and a very much respect that. But the marriage licence is a conenant before the Gov and the law and should the law force your religiuos beliefs on others? How do you like the Idea of Osama forcing Islam on the world??
3 - The Bible and all thats in it is a bunch of lies and fairy tales. You were not created-you only exsist!
Well if thats the Bahamas yall trying to create, thank God I'll be dead!

A Bahamas where all humans are equal no mater what religion or lack of race creed or any other human difference you care to mention.
One thing you forget is the constitution of the Bahamas states no religious discrimination.

Thanks Vicks, the funny thing is-I feel you mean it!LOL
Kidding, but thanks for the advice, you know we BI people like to argue :angel:

Thats right we can be at both ends of a debate but there does not have to be ill will.

I very much meant it. The gift of Love is a funny thing the Creator gave us. Think about it for a moment out of all the people in the world you find one soul mate (some find more than one). It hits like a train and you find you want that person as part of your life forever and nothing else matters or will do.

This will probably be my last post on this topic, but right is right and wrong is wrong, and the truth is the truth no matter how much it hurts.
Wrong doesn't become right just because its 2006 and not 1906
And the truth doesn't become a lie just because more peolpe are jumping on your bandwagon
Principles don't change! The same principles that our parents, grandparents and great grands stood for and lived by got all of us here today.
So why, now, we think that we are too "modern" for these same principles.
Saving the family, has to do with saving the traditional family structure, a mother, a father and children. There are already too many other things going on in the world, that causes confusion for our children, than to now try to explain to them why he has two mothers or two fathers.
"Modern" thinking will destroy the family!:sailing:

And in using this trend of thought slavery should still stand, the world is flat and left handed people are sinister.

Your no different than the white separatist who peacefully prays at the cross burnings in the woods with his boys. No different than the bigots who gather in the woods to discuss the evils of integration and affirmative action and the moral decay of the fabric of society due to "the coloreds".


You can call me whatever you want, think of me whatever you think but that will still never, never ever change the FACTS that is written in the bible. You CAN NOT deny the FACT that GOD created ADAM AND EVE...MAN AND WOMAN. It doesn't matter how hard you try to compare yourself to groups such as women, blacks and the disabled it will never be the same because race, gender and impairment relates to what a person is, homosexuality relates to what a person does...that's a major, major DIFFERENCE.


Im attacking your message. Just as your not attacking me......your attacking my ability to live as equally and to enjoy the same right as you do.


The difference you and I have is that we don't have the same believe in the importance of marriage.

I see marriage as sacred. It's created by God as a loyal partnership between one man and one woman, its the firmest foundation for building a family, it mirrors God's covenant relationship with His people. It provides the couple the ability for partnership, spiritual intimacy and the ability to pursue God together.

You, however, see it as convenience where the insurance company knows who to make out the cheque to if someone passes and who's place the forks and knives go to if there is a separation...I got that from a post when someone asked you about marriage and why is it needed for homosexuals.

So, do not preach to me about how you believe my message is wicked and evil when your intentions are filthy as a rat coming out of a cesspit spreading disease.


Just because you dress it up in religion doesnt make it any less so an attack. (some would argue it makes it worse).


Don't get it twisted. I am not dressing anything, I am not hiding anything, I believe what I believe about marriage because of Christianity, it's straight forward, there is no hidden agenda. You are trying to put me in a class of hate mongers in order to get sympathy, to cry the victim, but cry all you want it only looks ugly to you because it is not what you believe and want, it will never change the fact.

This will probably be my last post on this topic, but right is right and wrong is wrong, and the truth is the truth no matter how much it hurts.
Wrong doesn't become right just because its 2006 and not 1906
And the truth doesn't become a lie just because more peolpe are jumping on your bandwagon
Principles don't change! The same principles that our parents, grandparents and great grands stood for and lived by got all of us here today.
So why, now, we think that we are too "modern" for these same principles.
Saving the family, has to do with saving the traditional family structure, a mother, a father and children. There are already too many other things going on in the world, that causes confusion for our children, than to now try to explain to them why he has two mothers or two fathers.
"Modern" thinking will destroy the family!:sailing:


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You on the right start to marriage :hammer: :hammer:

Genesis 4:16-17 (King James Version)
16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. You have to read more than just on verse.


Victor, sir, sir, sir....in the KJV "knew" means "lay with" which means had sex with. This does not say that Cain met his wife in the Land of Nod. Don't try to outsmart me, you don't know how to interpret the bible esp when you don't believe in it. See, you reading more than one verse but you not understanding it because it will prove you wrong. I have seen you read a verse that says " The sky is blue" and you would interpret it as "red" because "red" is what you want.


It is only a story just becauce you believ it. As I said before people used to believe the world was flat as well


If you don't believe in it then don't quote it and don't try to prove it wrong to others who believe in it because you are doing a poor job at that too.


Then where did we (GLBT) come from?? How is it there are outward visable signs that humans are not just born fitting your so called ideal male or female?


GLBT, came from men that is obvious. If it had come from God, He would have clearly made provisions for a man to be with Adam and a woman for Eve in the BEGINNING but He doesn't!!!!

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the husband-wife relationships.

When God created a partner for Adam He created Eve not another Adam.

If God had intended the human race to be fulfilled through both heterosexual and homosexual marriage, He would have designed our bodies to allow reproduction through both means and made both means of sexual intercourse healthy and natural.


Are you saying the Creator did/could not create perfection?


Never said that. Since the fall of man, we have had our own ideas...GLBT is one of them.


Are you saying the Creator did not know the future when creating humanity???


He knows the future, but that does not confirm that He created GLBT.

You can call me whatever you want, think of me whatever you think but that will still never, never ever change the FACTS that is written in the bible. Facts in the Bible where please point them out. You CAN NOT deny the FACT that GOD created ADAM AND EVE...MAN AND WOMAN. Sorry not fact as you can't prove it It doesn't matter how hard you try to compare yourself to groups such as women, blacks and the disabled it will never be the same because race, gender and impairment relates to what a person is, homosexuality relates to what a person does...that's a major, major DIFFERENCE. homosexual is what a person is. Homosexual sex is what a person does.
The difference you and I have is that we don't have the same believe in the importance of marriage.
I see marriage as sacred. It's created by God as a loyal partnership between one man and one woman, its the firmest foundation for building a family, what world do you live in child abuse and divorce rate ring a bellit mirrors God's covenant relationship with His people.The Creator creadted all thus all are "His" people. It provides the couple the ability for partnership, spiritual intimacy and the ability to pursue God together. Not every one has faith in the "God" of your religion
You, however, see it as convenience where the insurance company knows who to make out the cheque to if someone passes and who's place the forks and knives go to if there is a separation...I got that from a post when someone asked you about marriage and why is it needed for homosexuals. Because you have never faced it you can't comprehend it
So, do not preach to me about how you believe my message is wicked and evil when your intentions are filthy as a rat coming out of a cesspit spreading disease.
Don't get it twisted. I am not dressing anything, I am not hiding anything, I believe what I believe about marriage because of Christianity, it's straight forward, there is no hidden agenda. You are trying to put me in a class of hate mongers in order to get sympathy, to cry the victim, but cry all you want it only looks ugly to you because it is not what you believe and want, it will never change the fact.

I suppose Jesus taught that you should treat others differently than you yourself would want to be treated??

Winter are you trying to tell me that the Creator is not all knowing as in knowing past, present and future?
That the Creator is not powerful enough to create the perfection he/she seeks?

Not every one has faith in the "God" of your religion


That's why this discussion is useless we don't believe in the same God which is the bases of my views.

Winter are you trying to tell me that the Creator is not all knowing as in knowing past, present and future?
That the Creator is not powerful enough to create the perfection he/she seeks?
I think she trying to tell you that you need to accept Christianity as it is.Accept yourself for who you are and not only will most folks accept you.You will no longer have the need to twist the bible to suit your special needs.:angel: Ya know....I really think many of us here have a higher opinion of you den you have of yourself,we know life must not be easy for you and admire your courage.:)

Winter are you trying to tell me that the Creator is not all knowing as in knowing past, present and future?
That the Creator is not powerful enough to create the perfection he/she seeks?


Victor, I didn't say that don't try to trap me. I said He is all-knowing and He did create a work that He was pleased with in the beginning, however, this does not say that He created GLBT. you saw His order in the beginning, it was man that went against His Order...God knew this would happen because He gave us freedom of choice...He let it play out because He wants us to choose Him