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Tafadhali
08-30-06, - 11:50 PM
dr. sweeting account should be taken as a caveat for the wide-eyed and gleeful. I envision this plan to be the deathblow of our economy if we continue along in the madness...it will bankrupt the Bahamas...please believe that...its a noble idea...but we cant afford it.

Look to the future, Bahamas
by Sidney Sweeting

With an election in mind this Government is proceeding with undue haste toward their proposed National Health Plan. With history as a guide, I ask the Bahamian people to look into the future and get an idea what medicine will be like in the Bahamas if they proceed with this plan, as is.

The year is 2012.


The first couple of years some Bahamians were happy with the new health plan because they could line up at the clinics and government hospitals with empty pockets except for their government-issued voucher card. Most Bahamians however, were now realizing that they were forced to give up their private insurance because employers could not afford to assist with both plans. They now realized that the plan was nothing more than an income tax, another “cash cow” for Government to use when one of its corporations needed a “loan,” as was the case with National Insurance.

Toward the end of the third year several prominent physicians had left the Bahamas after expressing their disgust about the deteriorating infrastructure and the deplorable condition of the equipment in the government hospitals. The increasing amount of bureaucracy that was taking so much time from their clinical work was becoming a constant source of irritation. Physicians no longer felt that they could make decisions without approval from a clerk in the system. They found that they were, in effect, working for the Government.

In addition, the lines at the clinics were getting longer by the week and the anger of the public increased with the length of the lines because everyone knew that there were patients in those lines who were illegal immigrants and so did not pay premiums. They were, in essence, paying for their treatment.

By the fourth year more physicians had left the country and the shortage of physicians and dentists was reaching a critical point so that Government was considering importing foreign physicians and dentists, mostly from Cuba.

Bahamians were being trained as interpreters and the public were being advised to take courses in conversational Spanish so that they could communicate with their doctors.


There was talk in the fourth year of increasing the premiums but there was so much opposition that the decision was made that there would be no further referrals to the US for treatment. If the treatment could not be done in the Bahamas, the patient was referred to Cuba.


By the fifth year, it was not unusual for a patient to have to wait a year to get a CAT scan or MRI and essential operations were postponed for months and there had been several reported deaths as a result of those delays. The usually placid Bahamian public was now starting to demonstrate to show their displeasure and anger at the Government for forcing them to give up their private health insurance. It had then become common knowledge that in 2006, before the National plan became law, Government had been urged by numerous organizations to consider the report presented to them by the Nassau Institute. This report had been prepared by Nadeem Esmail who had studied health plans in countries all over the world. This excellent report indicated the flaws in the plan presented by the BRC . Heeding this advice could have prevented the problems the Government is now experiencing.

Unfortunately, it was election year and Government was determined to force their plan through parliament before election date. There was no time on their agenda to consult or consider suggestions or alternate plans.

Does this sound like an impossible scenario, my fellow Bahamians?

If we do not learn from the mistakes of history, let's blame ourselves, not the Government.

They have a different agenda - to get elected.

Bahamians need to let them know, loud and clear, that if they proceed with this very flawed and ill-considered plan they will not have their vote on election day.

In the Tribune on August 22, Dr. Bernard Nottage stated “the people always thought something had to be perfect before it was implemented but said if that was the case nothing would ever be brought forward”. What an incredible statement!

We are talking about something that will adversely affect Bahamians for the rest of their lives. How about “striving for perfection”, Dr. Nottage.


We need to all be asking our Minister of Health why he is not consulting with the Bahamas Medical Association, the Bahamas Dental Association, the Chamber of Commerce, the Bahamas Association of Realtors, the major Health Insurers, the Bahamas Employers Confederation, just to name a few who are opposed to this plan. After all, he is planning to meet with the Ministry of Immigration, then the straw vendors, followed by the hair braiders! Will he get advice from the hair braiders that will be better received than from the Medical Association?


Let us fervently hope that Bahamians will realize, before it is too late, that they are being led toward a financial and health care abyss from which there will be no escape.

Read my lips Bahamians: IT IS AN INCOME TAX!

source (http://blogbahamas.typepad.com/blog_bahamas/2006/08/look_to_the_fut.html#more)

adidasboi987
08-31-06, - 03:59 AM
i saw something in the punch that was saying that the nassau institute determined that this health insurance thing was too expensive and the bahamian economy doesnt support it...guess the present government tryna say they did something before the next election

thetimeisnow
08-31-06, - 07:39 AM
The National Health Plan will not work.

I am absolutley amazed that some Bahamians are falling for this. It is nothing other than a government sponsored sham.

If you are sick, and go to the emergency room at PMH, and have no money - they have to treat you.

If you are sick, and need an emergency operation at PMH, and have no money - they have to treat you.

If after your operation, you cannot afford the bed in hospital - they have to treat you.

Has no Bahamian read the PMH charter? It says specifically that treatment must be rendered regardless of a persons ability to pay.

We already have a national health plan. It has many, many problems of its own, but the fact is, every goverment since independence has spent a large chunk of the budget on health - and the proposed national health plan offers us that which we already have.

Who wants to pay more money for something which they already have? Our health system should be better - should be much better. But at the moment, the Bahamian people are paying money for a suboptimal health system, and now they are being asked to pay even more money for the same suboptimal health system.

What more is being offered?

What is being offered is more levels of bureauracy in government.

And anyone who thinks the government's projection of the cost of this project is anywhere near believable is living in a dream world. I would direct their attention to the UK, which has had to raise the spending on health care every year - just to keep pace! And there is every indication that their excellent health care system is buckling under the strain. They are coming up with new health care initiatives to incorporate the private sector so that people can get their cholecystectomy in less than a year, or their knee replacement in less than a year.

And we are going to do better?

This is an income tax, nothing more, and nothing less. And it is an income tax that will increase every year, guaranteed. And there will be no results at all.

Once the legislation is pushed through, hastily and without due deliberation - it will be hard to rescind it when the whole thing goes belly up.

My fellow Bahamians - study other health care systems, and you will see what I am talking about.

nationbuilder
08-31-06, - 10:25 AM
Yup, every single credile agency, including most doctors in the system themselves, say the proposed scheme is not fundable and would not work as it is proposed to - yet the government is still plunging on it with anyway.

Havent they learned anything from the mistakes of the Ingraham administration? I thought this government was committed to LISTENING to sense and truth..but alas the election bell is about to sound, so I guess we have to sacrifice governmental prudence and responsibility for political expediency..

And the beat goes on :bored:

12play
08-31-06, - 11:44 AM
Vote them out!

Tafadhali
08-31-06, - 12:41 PM
Yup, every single credile agency, including most doctors in the system themselves, say the proposed scheme is not fundable and would not work as it is proposed to - yet the government is still plunging on it with anyway.
Havent they learned anything from the mistakes of the Ingraham administration? I thought this government was committed to LISTENING to sense and truth..but alas the election bell is about to sound, so I guess we have to sacrifice governmental prudence and responsibility for political expediency..
And the beat goes on :bored:

I was watching immediate response yesterday anf there were two govt bureaucrats on there trying to sell this and an Indian Dr. an Indian Dr.! that was kind of bizarre to me and I was thinking where was the Bahamian Dr. who supports this...not even one! ...and Dr. Nottage never surfaced yesterday...people its a sham!

adidasboi987
09-01-06, - 09:26 PM
:tdown:
I was watching immediate response yesterday anf there were two govt bureaucrats on there trying to sell this and an Indian Dr. an Indian Dr.! that was kind of bizarre to me and I was thinking where was the Bahamian Dr. who supports this...not even one! ...and Dr. Nottage never surfaced yesterday...people its a sham!

you bet right its a sham

I questioned why Mr. Nottage didnt show up either.:tdown:

Vicky
09-14-06, - 07:52 AM
My food for thought.
I welcome a health plan in the Bahamas. It will set standards and guidelines that Drs will have to work with or better, It will regulate pricing. Every Bahamian that needs heart surgery can get it. Like up here in Canada you get a Medicare card. You go to any health care professional (not dentists) and you will be seen priority to the most urgent cases. A non Canadian or a Canadian living out of the country for more than 6 month (not sure of the time period) cant have a media care card. Example If I needed to seek medical care while I am here I would have to pay for it even though I am Canadian born because I don't live in Canada. All others have to have privet medical insurance or money in the bank.

adidasboi987
09-15-06, - 05:08 PM
My food for thought.
I welcome a health plan in the Bahamas. It will set standards and guidelines that Drs will have to work with or better, It will regulate pricing. Every Bahamian that needs heart surgery can get it. Like up here in Canada you get a Medicare card. You go to any health care professional (not dentists) and you will be seen priority to the most urgent cases. A non Canadian or a Canadian living out of the country for more than 6 month (not sure of the time period) cant have a media care card. Example If I needed to seek medical care while I am here I would have to pay for it even though I am Canadian born because I don't live in Canada. All others have to have privet medical insurance or money in the bank.

nobody is questioning the neccesity of a health plan...the issues that are being raised are whether the economy can sustain it...another is the most obvious ...why force a poorly planned health scheme down the throats of people without trying to educate them on the pros and cons...its all POLITICS or should i say POLITRICKS(...somebody say election comin!!!!!!....)

Jer
09-15-06, - 05:31 PM
My food for thought.
I welcome a health plan in the Bahamas. It will set standards and guidelines that Drs will have to work with or better, It will regulate pricing. Every Bahamian that needs heart surgery can get it. Like up here in Canada you get a Medicare card. You go to any health care professional (not dentists) and you will be seen priority to the most urgent cases. A non Canadian or a Canadian living out of the country for more than 6 month (not sure of the time period) cant have a media care card. Example If I needed to seek medical care while I am here I would have to pay for it even though I am Canadian born because I don't live in Canada. All others have to have privet medical insurance or money in the bank.

The canada health system is broken. They are trying to change things now-more of a two level system. Private clinics opening up. People cant find family doctors, long wait times. Please get real.

michali
09-15-06, - 05:41 PM
The canada health system is broken. They are trying to change things now-more of a two level system. Private clinics opening up. People cant find family doctors, long wait times. Please get real.


So is the British National Health Service...sounds great but people have to wait for ages to get surgery and treatment, hence more and more people are going private. I cannot imagine how our health facilities here will be able to accommodate the whole population. As was already said in an earlier post, it is already difficult to get a single room at Doctor's Hospital. I think a plan would be great but, as it stands, it is presently not feasible.

As said too, people would be surprised at how much free treatment is given in Princess Margaret Hospital. Once people can show they cannot afford treatment, they are assessed and funding is provided. This is nothing new but I am not sure it is well known.

Alien
09-15-06, - 06:50 PM
What's wrong with free health care?

Jer
09-15-06, - 07:00 PM
What's wrong with free health care?

No such thing as free health care bro.....

Alien
09-15-06, - 07:08 PM
No such thing as free health care bro.....


Ok....I see nothing wrong with this plan!
:D

bahamiangoddess
09-15-06, - 07:51 PM
THE BAHAMIAN PEOPLE SAY NO!!!!!!!:tdown: :tdown: :tdown:

THE P.L.P was quick to tell the Bahamian people to vote "NO" for the referendum, If ever a time we need a referendum, it is on this issue. This is serious business when the government will force me to pay for something I do not want, and in the long run will not be beneficial to me, the public purse, and private physicians.

If you ask me the P.L.P is HEADING DOWN THE SAME ROAD AS THE F.N.M PRIOR TO 2002, it seems as if the P.L.P has not learnt from the F.N.M mistakes. The Bahamian electorate will no longer stand by and allow the government to shove anything down it's throat.

If Perry and his Cabinet knows what is good for them, they will put that bill with the rest, underneath the large stack that they have not gotten around to yet, put it right under the draft that was suppose to provide for the mandatory evacuation during emergencies

SAY NO TO

NO CHOICES!!!!!!!!!!
LOUSY SERVICE
NO MEDICATION
LONG LINES..............................................
BROKEN DOWN EQUIPMENT
NO PATIENT CONFIDENTIALITY
NO SPECIALIST
SLIM CHANCE FOR SECOND OPINION
NO RIGHTS TO ELECTIVE PROCEDURES
NO RIGHT TO CHOOSE MY PHYSICIAN
COMPULSORY WAGE DEDUCTION
ME PAYING FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
10YRS FROM NOW A BROKE N.H.I
DYING WHILE WAITING IN LINE
DELAYED AMBULANCE SERVICE
NO BEDS AVAILABLE