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licks2
09-01-06, - 05:58 PM
Now that a group of Bahamians (headed by Bumpy Watkins) has taken up the "fringe-group" call for release of the five Castro Security Agents "plants" that were complicite in 26 offences in America...incuding involvement of the BROTHERS TO THE RESCUE "SHOOT DOWN...all the way to passing US government secrets....I think that its time that BI get a snap at dicussing the issue! HELL....we better get used to how Castro does business...because believe you me...they have spies here too!

HERE IS THE STORY (wikipedia):

The Cuban Five are Gerardo Hernández, Antonio Guerrero, Ramón Labañino, Fernando Gonzáles, and René Gonzáles. After being arrested in Miami, Florida in September 1998, they were indicted by the U.S. government on 26 different counts ranging from using false identification to espionage and conspiracy to commit murder. In June 2001, they were convicted of all 26 counts by a U.S. federal court in Miami and in December sentenced to varying terms in maximum-security prison: two consecutive life terms for Hernández, life for Guerrero and Labañino, 19 years for Fernando Gonzáles, and 15 years for René Gonzáles.

The arrest and conviction incited an uproar from the Cuban government and sympathetic groups, and an international campaign to free the five took form. The five convicted men say that they were in Miami to monitor anti-Castro Cuban exile groups operating out of that city, which they claim were engaging in "terrorist" activities against Cuba. In a 2001 report by Cuba's Permanent Mission to the United Nations, the Cuban government catalogued 3,478 deaths as a result of "terrorism", "aggression", "acts of piracy and other actions". The events cited span the course of four decades and pertain to attacks such as plane bombings as well as the Bay of Pigs invasion and the long civil war between the government and anti-communist rebels in the Escambray Mountains.

Amnesty International has declared, in a 2006 open letter to the U.S. State Department, that they are following closely the status of the ongoing appeals of the five men of numerous issues challenging the fairness of the trial which have not yet been addressed by the appeal courts.

Defenders of the Cuban Five claim that terrorism against Cuba has been carried out by exile groups such as CORU, Alpha 66, Omega 7 and Brothers to the Rescue, with impunity. The Founder of Brothers to the Rescue, José Basulto, was in the early 1960's involved in subversion and sabotage activities in Cuba, including an attack in which a hotel, which Basulto claimed to be "full of Russians", was shelled. Brothers to the Rescue, formed decades later, sent planes into Cuban airspace to assist rafters emigrating Cuba as well as drop political leaflets over the country. In the course of this, Basulto's organization made many unauthorized flights into Cuban airspace and was threatened with being shot down upon further incursions. In 1996 two Brothers to the Rescue planes were shot down by the Cuban Air Force killing all four people onboard. Basulto, who was flying another plane, survived this incident.

The U.S. arrested the Cuban Five as part of a group of alleged spies known as the "Wasp Network". One member of the five, Gerardo Hernandez, infiltrated Brothers to the Rescue and sent information back to Cuba that led to the downing of the plane. The remaining four lied about their identities and sent 2,000 pages of unclassified information obtained from U.S. military bases to Cuba.

After the arrests, petitions by the defense to move the trial out of Miami were refused, although the jury consisted no Cuban-Americans. They spent almost three years in jail between their arrest and the beginning of their trial. The trial went on for seven months, but jury deliberations lasted four days.

On August 9, 2005, a three-judge appellate panel of the 11th circuit court of appeals in Atlanta overturned the convictions and sentences of the Cuban Five and ordered a new trial saying that the Cuban exile community in Miami and the trial publicity made the trial unfavorable and prejudicial to the defendants. In November 2005 this ruling for a new trial was reversed by the full panel of 11th circuit court. As of now the original convictions are reinstated. A rehearing is pending in the 11th United States circuit court of appeals.

Paintings of the five are proudly displayed throughout Cuba, and there are state sponsored posters explaining the Cuban position hanging in most resorts.

Since their conviction, there has been an international campaign for the case to be appealed, with support groups in twenty-seven countries. In the United States, the campaign is most conspicuously represented by the National Committee to Free the Cuban Five, which is represented in fourteen cities. Many other American groups, such as the Socialist Workers Party has been known to campaign for the release of the Cuban Five.

Holly Ackerman, professor of Latin American studies at Tulane University, argues that Cuba's contention that it is threatened by US-based "terrorists" is questionable at best. Amnesty International criticizes the US treatment of the Cuban Five as human rights violations, as the wives of René Gonzáles and Gerardo Hernández have not been allowed visas to visit their imprisoned husbands.

Eight international Nobel Prize winners have written and sent a document to the U.S. Attorney General calling for freedom for the Cuban Five, signed by Zhores Alferov (Nobel Prize for Physics, 2000), Desmond Tutu (Nobel Peace Prize, 1984), Nadine Gordimer (Nobel Prize in Literature, 1991), Rigoberta Menchú (Nobel Peace Prize, 1992), Adolfo Pérez Esquivel (Nobel Peace Prize, 1980), Wole Soyinka (Nobel Prize in Literature, 1986), José Saramago (Nobel Prize in Literature, 1996), Günter Grass (Nobel Prize in Literature, 1999).

In Britain, among other actions, six MPs wrote a letter to Tony Blair calling on the government to apply pressure on the US to act against terrorists in Florida and to immediately release the Five.

There you have it....the saga of the Cuban five...WHAT-SAY-YOU?

SHOULD WE SUPPORT "BUMMPY" AND THE BAHAMAS COMMITTEE TO FREE THE CUBAN FIVE?:dgi:

licks2
09-13-06, - 07:15 PM
Again, I read in one of our major dailies (Tribune: Tuesday 12 Sept. 2006 pp. 1 and 12) that the Bahamian Friends of the Cuban Five are at it again!

The article said that the work of BFOCF is to highlight exactly what it is the CF were "purported" to have done in Miami shortly before their arrests.

The article continued that they were in an American State, spying on American citizens of Cuban decent....who by every of law natural justice had an obligation to fight against a dictator who had confiscated their homeland, property, freedom and citizenship without due process of written and natural laws (according to Desmond Tutu, during the South African struggle for freedom from the oppression of the Boaars). Ergo...there exist that inherited right of mankind to resist....or as Bantu Beko put it.......cry for freedom! Out of this perception of the right of an aggrieved and oppressed people to resist by violance..."UMCONTO WESEESWE" (spelling may be incorrect)....The Tip of the Spear.....was born!!!!!

With the Cubans, both sides are in a "war"....one to keep the "taken" nation and one (who lost the nation) to take it back!!

Thus, when Castro sent his secutiry officers into a third nation....who has her own intersts to protect....and her own laws to enforce....he set up himself as violator and intruder through his five security officers on American soil!!! How quick we forget that Castro applied that same natural law in1996....when he shot down two of Brothers to the Rescure plans...because they violated Cuban airspace!!!

Now we have folks....that are making very little sense....except that they are "rabit" anti-Americans who will fault her if she breaths....but allows the same action by their friends. This is not a call for justice.....this is rather a call for "JUST-US"!! Sad to say...I see this practice more and more right in my country...."rabit" Anti-Americanism!

Case in point! Mr Rood opens his mouth and its it is a captial offence for someone in his office to be openly meddleing in our national affairs! Yet Cuban Mr Wilson all right up in our national sh!t all the time and no one blinks!

Now I expect this kind of bullsh!t reasoning from someone like Bumpy...but from Felix?



The Cuban Americans living in Florida were and are in a struggle to free "their" country from a tyranical government....oh, the true state of mankind!

canewry
09-13-06, - 07:49 PM
I say the Bahamian people need to stay out of this and watch...
let the big boys play politics...
But I do agree that there may be a small number of Cuban Americans out there that may be terrorist....definately they terrorised the Bahamas with their unwarrented protest, holding us hostage because we disagreed with their objectives

bahamiangoddess
09-13-06, - 09:31 PM
I think the Bahamas has bigger fish to fry, in our own pot..

licks2
09-14-06, - 12:53 PM
I say the Bahamian people need to stay out of this and watch...
let the big boys play politics...
But I do agree that there may be a small number of Cuban Americans out there that may be terrorist....definately they terrorised the Bahamas with their unwarrented protest, holding us hostage because we disagreed with their objectives

If I gave the "WRONG" impression about some of them Cubans in Miami not being terrorists or bad apples...I apologised!! Hell..we in the Bahamas knows that better than most nations round here!:cheers:

licks2
09-18-06, - 06:49 PM
If yinna listened to Bumpy on Wendell's show today....you would have heard why nobody under 99 years should let this foul little "jingo phatt" think about anything but who he is going to "suck up" to for his next supper!!!:dancer2:

licks2
09-19-06, - 02:09 PM
Tribune Editorial for Monday 18 September lays out the whole web of Bumpy and them bullsh!t....:cheers:

If ya een read it yet....go get ya sef a copy....it juicy!!!!

I WILL WATCH THIS STORY VERY CLOSELY....STAY TUNED!

islandgyal
09-19-06, - 05:23 PM
Tribune Editorial for Monday 18 September lays out the whole web of Bumpy and them bullsh!t....:cheers:
If ya een read it yet....go get ya sef a copy....it juicy!!!!
I WILL WATCH THIS STORY VERY CLOSELY....STAY TUNED!


i was hoping that someone would connect the dots between the watkins clan and havana ... last time we were in jose marti airport in february, errington and his blinding collection of gold necklaces and chains and rings had to be protected by no fewer than four "bodyguards" and his long island girlfriend. suck teeth:footmouth.

licks2
09-22-06, - 07:01 PM
WORD AROUND IS THAT THIS SCHEME IS A DIRECT "FINGER IN WE THINGS" COOKED UP IN THE CUBAN EMBASSY BY NONE OTHER THAN MR. B AND THAT SLICKSTER MR. W...WHO CAN'T KEEP HE MOUTH OUTTA WE SH!T. AND EEN NONE ER THESE SO CALLED CHAMPIONS OF "KEEP THEY MOUTH OUTTA WE STUFF" HYPOCRITES ROUND HERE DOES SAY A DAMN THING ABOUT IT!!! BUT......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....YOU LET THAT WHITE MAN ON KING STREET THERE MISS AND SAY GOOD MORNING...LOOKING AT WE THE WRONG WAY............"PING"......."SEE! HE ALL UP IN WE STUFF"...YOU WILL HEAR ALL THE WAY TO IGNAGUA!!!!

BOY! THE MORE I READ ABOUT HOW THIS CUBAN GOVERNMENT IS USING THESE LOCAL "KNUCKLE HEADS" FOR ITS OWN POLITICAL SELF....THE MORE I WONDER.........HOW THE HELL DID FELIX GOT MIXED-UP IN SUCH A STUPID SCHEME....BLATANT ONE-SIDED..CASTRO GENERATED....UNADULTARATED....BONIFIDE BULL HOCKEY!!!!! HOW THE HELL MA BRODDA GOT TO FOLLOW A FELLA WHO HAS PROVEN THAT HE EEN NEVER SEE A DOLLAR THAT HE DID NOT WANTED TO SING THE "BROWN NOSE" TUNE FOR..IT SEEMS!!!

IN MY DISCUSSION GROUP...THE STORY OF HOW ME BOUY GOT MIXED-UP IN THIS CRAP IS THAT MR. "SING-FOR-HIS-SUPPER" TRYING TO PULL SOME "STRINGS" WITH THE "OLD GRAY FOX" TO MAKE SOME HONEY OUTTA THEM CUBANS PEOPLE!!! AND TO TELL YA THE TRUTH....I EEN ABOUT TA GIVE THAT SNAKE A BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT!!!!!! IF IT WALKS LIKE A SNAKE...BROWN NOSE LIKE A 'GUTTER SNIPE'....WILL JUMP ON ANY BAND WAGON WITH A DOLLAR ATTACHED....SAY OR DO ANY CRAP FOR HIS "CONSULTANT FEE"...THEN I SAY IT MUST BE A B***Y !!!!! I WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH THE TRIBUNE "CLEAN THEIR CLOCKS" FOR THEM!!

RUN FELIX.............RUN!!!!!!!!! :cool:

licks2
10-04-06, - 05:14 PM
Well, the Cuban "Jives" are at it again! Only this time...the Cuban handlers don't trust the Jives them to push their cause to thte Bahamian people...because the Tribune done cleaned their clocks for them....anybody without half a brain tied behind their back would touch thoses ninnies with a ten foot pole of credibility! So, now Jives handlers took it on themselves to go on Love 97....on Tuesday 3 Oct....and there the moderator cleaned both of the them handlers clocks for them! Oh, how I enjoyed he and the Bahamian public make fools of them!!! But the thing that tickled ma fancy the most is when the moderator asked them handlers if there are other spies in the Bahamas....he een answer yet!!!! Don't fool ya self....Cuban living here would not even talk anything bad about Castro...even on the phone! Just try to give one of them working any money. Mr Wilson done instruct employers to not give them people the money they worked for and they must report everything else to mr W.... :cry: :cry: :cry:

I CRY SHAME OF THEM supposed paragons of virture for the nation? Letting Cuba play us like a fiddle for its own benefit!

The irony of this whole matter is that the Bahamian leader of the Cuban "Jives" calls Hubert Ingraham a traitor and spy for the USA...and een fit to be a leader in this nation!! Now that he is a "jiving" for another nation's political cause as well...what does that make him....a traitor and spy too? Inquiring minds want to know!:cry:

Rory
10-04-06, - 05:29 PM
what's a Cuban "Jive"?

licks2
10-05-06, - 12:55 PM
what's a Cuban "Jive"?

Them Bahamain ninnies who think that the Bahamian people are a bunch of fools and are stupid at the drop of a hat!! They formally called themselves Friends of the Cuban Five! But after listening to the talk show where their handlers all but admitted that there are Cuban agents operating in the Bahamas as well....I decided that the whole friends of the five crew are a bunch of "jive azzes"...hence, the term jives! In other other words, the grass root expression goes something like so: "MAN...THEY TALKING SH!T"!!!

NB: Jive is an old juke joint term that connotates one who is equivalent to a contemporary "flamer"...:shhh: !

bahamiangoddess
10-05-06, - 04:55 PM
If yinna listened to Bumpy on Wendell's show today....you would have heard why nobody under 99 years should let this foul little "jingo phatt" think about anything but who he is going to "suck up" to for his next supper!!!:dancer2:



I have listened to that man on a talk show and something is obviously wrong
with him. If my recall is correct, this is the same man who has been trying for years to turn Abaco into it's own country, maybe they want to become a part of Cuba, you never know.