Alien
09-10-06, - 03:34 PM
They care now because you want them to.
So THAT'S it?
LOL...
I knew it was something!
So THAT'S it?
LOL...
I knew it was something!
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View Full Version : Not getting it? Alien 09-10-06, - 03:34 PM They care now because you want them to. So THAT'S it? LOL... I knew it was something! Alien 09-10-06, - 03:37 PM Vicky hun... Seriously now... We een feeling the homo-transgendered thingy...I know it is important to you, and you should fight on, but, if you want to save yourself some time, don't bother Bahamians with it. You really will be forever fighting a losing battle.... Even Gay pastor's we that we know about, are not that stupid and politicaly suicidal to support gat agenda's in the Bahamas. I would personaly, out of my sense of fairness and decency, would have to ask you to stand down, and go about living your life as you see fit, without trying to ram your belief down our throats. It won't work, no matter how wrong you feel we are. Just thought I would mention that to you now! WinterGrace 09-10-06, - 06:58 PM This is a tough pill to swallow for many and I know many will cry injustice, bigots, prejudice, inequality, la de da. Some will even try to personally attack the Aussie PM's character, however, it will never refute the fact of the matter that he is speaking alot of truth.....no doubt it will step on some toes but that doesn't matter there is truth to be told..... Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!" THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART!!!!!!! "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'." "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted." 1) GOD AND CHRISTIANITY IS APART OF BAHAMIAN CULTURE AS WELL!!!!!! 2) BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IN BUT ACCEPT OURS AS WELL AND DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE OUR BELIEFS TO YOURS!!! (please focus on "my favorite part" section, I didn't want to break his speech) Rory 09-10-06, - 07:07 PM ^ | |___ Lol ... RockWell 09-10-06, - 08:26 PM Dang that brudder cold & to the point.Guess you aint got to worry bout no gay agenda or illegal immigration over there. adidasboi987 09-10-06, - 08:50 PM British Parties Back Gay Partner Rights The Associated Press London, Dec.6—(AP) Prime Minister Tony Blair's government said Friday that gay couples should be allowed to register their partnerships and enjoy some of the legal rights of married couples. Opposition parties--including the Conservatives, who for many years opposed any extension of gay rights--said Friday that they support the concept. Blair's Labor Party holds a commanding majority in the House of Commons and can pass legislation on its own. Barbara Roche, minister for social exclusion and equalities, said there was an "extremely strong case" for registering same-sex relationships and that ministers would consult on the specifics. "I do think society has moved on, and I think that we recognize that there are very many people in gay relationships who are in very loving relationships--they may have been very long, enduring relationships--but their partnership has no recognition in law," she told British Broadcasting Corp. radio. A Blair spokeswoman said the government would put out a position paper on the issue early next summer a first step toward possible legislation. Roche said the partnerships would not be equivalent to marriages. "We are not talking about marriage here," she said. "What we are talking about is the signing of a register." Because their relationships have no legal status, gay couples are denied many of the rights given to married people, in the areas of inheritance, pensions, tenancy and immigration, among others. The city of London already allows gay couples to formally register their unions, but the registration doesn't confer any legal rights. d Liberal Democrats said Friday they support giving gay couples the same property and inheritance rights as married couples. Oliver Letwin, Tory spokesman on domestic issues, said Friday that his party would support property and inheritance rights for gay couples if the measure is introduced in Parliament. "Whilst we attach a huge importance to the institution of marriage, we do recognize that gay couples suffer from some serious particular grievances," he told the BBC. The Conservatives, long opposed the extension of gay rights, have recently modified their stance in an effort to become more inclusive. Evan Harris, health spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, said the registration proposal was overdue. "Couples of any sex must be made equal before the law," he said. David Allison, spokesman for the gay rights group Outrage!, also praised the proposal. "We certainly welcome it and would hope that the government will go on and recognize these relationships in full," he said. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/118/story_11821_1.html Vicky 09-10-06, - 10:36 PM You are so lost. It's not about you and your identity problemsI don't have a problem with my identity but you seem to have a problem with it. It's about a basic human response, it's natural, however, you so defensive about your choices, you believe everyone is out to get you...that says alot about your comfort level.... If I believed everyone one was out to get me I would not go out of the house. No not everyone is out to get me just a few ignorant (not meant as disrespect) people that don't see GLBT as equal human beings. Example what my wife and granddaughter face at the beach. I asked you if you wanted to come to dinner?? RockWell 09-10-06, - 10:42 PM I don't have a problem with my identity but you seem to have a problem with it. If I believed everyone one was out to get me I would not go out of the house. No not everyone is out to get me just a few ignorant (not meant as disrespect) people that don't see GLBT as equal human beings. Example what my wife and granddaughter face at the beach. I asked you if you wanted to come to dinner?? Dang you want to invite WG to her Last Supper aye?:) Vicky 09-10-06, - 10:53 PM This is a tough pill to swallow for many and I know many will cry injustice, bigots, prejudice, inequality, la de da. Some will even try to personally attack the Aussie PM's character, however, it will never refute the fact of the matter that he is speaking alot of truth.....no doubt it will step on some toes but that doesn't matter there is truth to be told..... Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. I like this part. It won't be long now. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!" THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART!!!!!!! "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'." "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted." 1) GOD AND CHRISTIANITY IS APART OF BAHAMIAN CULTURE AS WELL!!!!!! 2) BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IN BUT ACCEPT OURS AS WELL AND DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE OUR BELIEFS TO YOURS!!! (please focus on "my favorite part" section, I didn't want to break his speech) Vicky 09-10-06, - 10:55 PM Dang that brudder cold & to the point.Guess you aint got to worry bout no gay agenda or illegal immigration over there. Same sex marriage missed in parliament by 2 votes WinterGrace 09-10-06, - 10:57 PM I asked you if you wanted to come to dinner?? What you cooking? WinterGrace 09-10-06, - 10:59 PM Same sex marriage missed in parliament by 2 votes Which parliament? RockWell 09-10-06, - 10:59 PM What you cooking? If he slips up and calls you Jesus RUN!:) RockWell 09-10-06, - 11:00 PM Which parliament? Also tell him Prove It.:) Vicky 09-10-06, - 11:01 PM Dang you want to invite WG to her Last Supper aye?:) I asked her before she never answered. Last Supper what a joke. |