View Full Version : Energy costs going down BEC charges still going up?
licks2 09-28-06, - 04:08 PM Man BEC must have gone and lost their last mind they had between the bunch er them!!! :hot:
My grammy's light bill for this month has gone up from around $90 per cycle to a whoppin $950 this cycle!!!!!!! Checks at BEC found that they gave the wrong charges for the services grammy used. Well child, while we waited and rejoiced that grammy een ger chop someone with that rusty cutlass, the women said.....I have good news! Yinna grammy's bill een $950....it is $500!!! Well hell....grammy started cussin everybody for not banding together and "tell BEC" GO TO HELL WITH THEY FOOLINHNESS!
Needless to say.......grammy called everybody who wan listen and told them how she ger kick BEC in they boongy for foolin round with her head and putting up her light bill again! Boy, she cussed Perry to shreds too for "givin them Haitian in Abaco free light" while BEC tellin her that she have to pay that $500 she een gat or they ger cut here light off!!!!!
I also got my call at the office around noon! "They een make no mistake with my bill....everybody I talked to said that they bill gone way up too"!!!
Now ya know I wanted to check this out fer masef....cause I know that energy prices were going down all over the world for some time....even gas in the Bahamas gone down.....BEC can't be in their right minds if they are putting more money on these already high costs for energy!
And sure enough, one call at my daughter's office found her asking me where she could buy a good lasko floor fan!!! When I asked why..she said: "my usualy little over $100 light bill just went up more than to $300...no more AC for me!!!!
Now I don't know what the hell is going on round here...but if this een no accounting mistake...then BEC mussie gettin them high raises for staff from the public...er? Cause it for damn sure een for "too high" energy costs no more....they going down...not going up!!!:cutie: :cutie:
Are there anymore horror stories of this "robbery" by BEC going on...?:dgi:
WinterGrace 09-28-06, - 04:47 PM I believe you have a point...energy cost must be going up, this month our bill has doubled from last month's. But what makes me upset is the fact that BEC still cutting off current and want to double ya bill :sparky:
de redhead 09-28-06, - 05:46 PM My bill went from 75.00 to 161.00 to 352.00 from may to july.
Admittedly I just installed an AC unit but that is ridiculous.
Something must be wrong with your bills. The last bill I paid was $184.26 (it was the fuel surcharge that was the killer $80) which is about average for me at this time of year and I have a big house! $104 (real usage) not to bad?
trubahamian 09-28-06, - 06:41 PM Something must be wrong with your bills. The last bill I paid was $184.26 (it was the fuel surcharge that was the killer $80) which is about average for me at this time of year and I have a big house! $104 (real usage) not to bad?
The fuel surcharge is necessary.We already owe Hugo Chavez untold millions for fueling our antiquated diesel powered dynamos.Our Government needs a plan to update to a more efficient and environmentally friendly fuel source to produce electricity.Some of the clean burning coal fired plants could work for us and I certainly would not rule out nuclear energy,it is extremely popular throughout Europe and regaining favorability in the US.
licks2 09-28-06, - 06:45 PM Something must be wrong with your bills. The last bill I paid was $184.26 (it was the fuel surcharge that was the killer $80) which is about average for me at this time of year and I have a big house! $104 (real usage) not to bad?
Maybe I need you to go at my grammy's house and teach her some enegy conservation techniques....could save me some money...er?:)
chancellor 09-28-06, - 06:45 PM The fuel surcharge is necessary.We already owe Hugo Chavez untold millions for fueling our antiquated diesel powered dynamos.Our Government needs a plan to update to a more efficient and environmentally friendly fuel source to produce electricity.Some of the clean burning coal fired plants could work for us and I certainly would not rule out nuclear energy,it is extremely popular throughout Europe and regaining favorability in the US.
Can we afford to get the unranium for that stuff? And then I dont know if there are any Bahamian nuclear engineers and stuff abroad, but we would need to persuade them back.....and still prepare some work permits.
The fuel surcharge is necessary.We already owe Hugo Chavez untold millions for fueling our antiquated diesel powered dynamos.Our Government needs a plan to update to a more efficient and environmentally friendly fuel source to produce electricity.Some of the clean burning coal fired plants could work for us and I certainly would not rule out nuclear energy,it is extremely popular throughout Europe and regaining favorability in the US.
Our guys running a Nuclear plant? They can't even keep the oil burning ones we have now running correctly! We would be another Chernobyl in no time flat!
nationbuilder 09-28-06, - 08:13 PM Our guys running a Nuclear plant? They can't even keep the oil burning ones we have now running correctly! We would be another Chernobyl in no time flat!
U so right. Cheaper they get wind drawn turnbines and use all this sisal growing around here first.
BahamaWave 09-28-06, - 08:53 PM # Adjust your thermostat dial and turn up energy savings.
Setting your thermostat to keep air conditioning at 78°F when it 's hot outside, and your heating system at 68°F when it 's cold, can help save up to 20% in heating and cooling costs.
# Turn off unneeded lights.
Avoid lighting an empty room and take advantage of natural light whenever possible.
# Use appliances wisely.
To help prevent electricity outages, use major appliances after 7 p.m. Don 't forget to turn off equipment like ceiling fans, stereos and computers when not in use.
# Test for air leaks.
Hold a lit incense stick next to windows, doors, electrical boxes, plumbing fixtures, electrical outlets, ceiling fixtures, attic hatches and other locations where there is a possible air path to the outside. If the smoke stream travels horizontally, you have located an air leak that may need caulking, sealing or weather stripping.
# Change the air filters in your cooling and heating system.
This simple change will produce real results for your annual energy bill and overall health. Replace air filters monthly for maximum benefit.
# Use the warm- or cold-water setting to wash clothes. Use cold water to rinse clothes. Save up to 4%.
# Line-dry your clothes. Save up to 5%.
# Run full loads if you need to use the clothes dryer. Use the moisture-sensing setting and clean the lint trap after each use. Save 0.5%.
# Run the dishwasher only when it is fully loaded. Turn off the dry cycle and air-dry dishes. Save 1%.
# Reduce the operating time of your pool filter and automatic pool-cleaning sweep, and operate them only before noon or after
Refrigerator
No Cost
Adjust the refrigerator temperature settings. Optimum refrigerator range is 37 to 40°F and freezer range is 0 to 5°F. If the temperature control system does not specify degrees, check the manual for corresponding settings.
Minimize door openings as much as possible. Every time the refrigerator door is opened, cooled air escapes. The unit must then work harder to replace the air. Try to keep the door open no longer than necessary. Be sure to close the door completely.
Allow hot foods to cool before placing them in the refrigerator. Hot food decreases the temperature in the refrigerator temporarily, forcing the refrigerator to work harder to keep the air cool.
Keep your refrigerator away from heat sources, such as an oven, a dishwasher and direct sunlight from a window. A 10°F increase in surrounding temperature can result in 20% higher energy consumption.
Keep the refrigerator full. A full refrigerator retains cold better than an empty one. If the refrigerator is nearly empty, store water-filled containers inside. The mass of cold items will enable the refrigerator to recover more quickly after the door has been opened. On the other hand, don't overfill it, since that will interfere with the circulation of cold air inside.
Good Investment
Refrigerators with anti-sweat heaters (which prevent condensation) consume 5 to 10% more energy. Look for models with an "energy saver" switch that lets you turn down — or off — the heaters.
Purchase a chest freezer instead of an upright freezer. Chest freezers are typically better insulated and cold air does not spill out when the door is opened.
Select a refrigerator that is the right size for the household's needs. Larger models use more energy, as do refrigerators that are under-utilized or overly full.
Choose top-freezer models instead of side-by-side refrigerators, which use approximately 10 to 25% more energy.
Heating & Cooling
No Cost
Close drapes, blinds and shades to help retain heat at night or during unoccupied periods.
Check the settings on the room air conditioner. Make sure the "fresh air" vent on the air conditioner is closed so you are not cooling outside air.
Set the thermostat as low as comfortably possible in the winter. The less difference between the indoor and outdoor temperatures, the lower your overall heating bill will be.
Set the temperature lower in the winter when your home is unoccupied. Use a programmable thermostat to automatically lower and raise the temperature according to your settings.
In the winter, reverse your ceiling fan motor so that the blades push air up toward the ceiling, where hot air normally rises. The fan will drive the warm air back down around the edges of the room, which can result in more even heating. Better heat circulation will help combat the problem of sweating windows that some homes experience in the wintertime because of condensation on the glass.
Close drapes, blinds and shades to keep sun's rays out of the home during the warmer months.
Laundry
No Cost
Wash in cold water. Today's laundry detergents are made to clean clothes in cold water. The majority of energy used for washing clothes comes from heating water. Use hot water only for very dirty clothes and always use cold water for rinsing. Save 4%.
Don't overload the washer and dryer. Your clothes may not get clean and may need to be washed again. Overloading dryers uses excess energy because items take longer to dry.
Clean the lint from the clothes dryer after every load. The efficiency of the dryer goes down when lint collects over the dryer filter. Run full loads and use the moisture-sensing setting. Save 5% on your electric bill.
Dry similar types of fabrics together. For example, put towels together in one load. A lower dryer temperature may be used for certain clothes. See the owner's manual for more information.
Line-dry clothes whenever possible. This can save up to 5% of your energy costs.
Presoak or use the soak cycle when washing heavily soiled garments. You will avoid two washings and save energy.
Keep the clothes dryer's outside exhaust clean. A clogged exhaust lengthens drying time and increases energy use.
Electronics & Office
No Cost
To turn off computer scanners, printers and other devices that are plugged into a power strip, simply switch off the power strip after shutting down your computer.
Good Investment
Choose electronic products and appliances without a built-in clock or timer. The displays only consume about a half watt, but the power supply in the appliance is converting 120 volts of alternating current to low-voltage direct current for the clock or timer. This is very inefficient and consumes 20 to 100 watts/hour per day. This is enough to run a compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) continuously for 10 hours.
Avoid leaving electronic products and appliances with small transformers plugged in while not in use.
Office Equipment
No Cost
Do not leave equipment in sleep mode overnight because it will continue to draw a small amount of power. Turn off all equipment every night — especially monitors and printers. Monitors usually consume twice the electricity as CPUs.
Good Investment
Use laptop computers. Laptops use up to 90% less energy than a desktop computer.
Print with ink jet printers instead of laser printers. Ink jet printers cost less to maintain and use 90% less energy than laser printers.
Water Heating
No Cost
Like dishwashers, up to 90% of the cost of operating washing machines is associated with the energy needed to heat the water. Reduce the amount of hot water used by washing clothes in warm water, instead of hot, or in cold water, instead of warm.
Washing only full loads will also reduce hot-water consumption.
Reduce the amount of hot water used by turning the hot-water faucet off while shaving or brushing your teeth.
When you plan to be away from home for three or more days, turn the water heater thermostat down to the lowest setting, or turn the heater off completely. Be sure you know how to relight the pilot light on the gas heater before you turn it off.
Use off-peak power to heat water. For those who have an electric water heater, this usage contributes to the electric utility company's "peak load," or the largest amount of power demand that they have to meet on a daily basis.
Some utilities are required to offer their customers "time of use" rates that vary according to the demand on their system. Lower rates may be charged at "off-peak" times and higher rates at "on-peak" times.
Check with your local electric utility to find out if it offers time-of-use rates for residential customers. Some utilities even offer incentives for customers who allow their utility to install control devices that shut off electric water heaters during peak demand periods.
chancellor 09-28-06, - 09:04 PM I would think that considering prices just went down that no one would see any indication of lower prices until the next bill arrives......providing prices stay down and the oil regions stay as sane as possible.
# Adjust your thermostat dial and turn up energy savings.
Setting your thermostat to keep air conditioning at 78°F when it 's hot outside, and your heating system at 68°F when it 's cold, can help save up to 20% in heating and cooling costs.
# Turn off unneeded lights.
Avoid lighting an empty room and take advantage of natural light whenever possible.
# Use appliances wisely.
To help prevent electricity outages, use major appliances after 7 p.m. Don 't forget to turn off equipment like ceiling fans, stereos and computers when not in use.
# Test for air leaks.
Hold a lit incense stick next to windows, doors, electrical boxes, plumbing fixtures, electrical outlets, ceiling fixtures, attic hatches and other locations where there is a possible air path to the outside. If the smoke stream travels horizontally, you have located an air leak that may need caulking, sealing or weather stripping.
# Change the air filters in your cooling and heating system.
This simple change will produce real results for your annual energy bill and overall health. Replace air filters monthly for maximum benefit.
# Use the warm- or cold-water setting to wash clothes. Use cold water to rinse clothes. Save up to 4%.
# Line-dry your clothes. Save up to 5%.
# Run full loads if you need to use the clothes dryer. Use the moisture-sensing setting and clean the lint trap after each use. Save 0.5%.
# Run the dishwasher only when it is fully loaded. Turn off the dry cycle and air-dry dishes. Save 1%.
# Reduce the operating time of your pool filter and automatic pool-cleaning sweep, and operate them only before noon or after
Refrigerator
No Cost
Adjust the refrigerator temperature settings. Optimum refrigerator range is 37 to 40°F and freezer range is 0 to 5°F. If the temperature control system does not specify degrees, check the manual for corresponding settings.
Minimize door openings as much as possible. Every time the refrigerator door is opened, cooled air escapes. The unit must then work harder to replace the air. Try to keep the door open no longer than necessary. Be sure to close the door completely.
Allow hot foods to cool before placing them in the refrigerator. Hot food decreases the temperature in the refrigerator temporarily, forcing the refrigerator to work harder to keep the air cool.
Keep your refrigerator away from heat sources, such as an oven, a dishwasher and direct sunlight from a window. A 10°F increase in surrounding temperature can result in 20% higher energy consumption.
Keep the refrigerator full. A full refrigerator retains cold better than an empty one. If the refrigerator is nearly empty, store water-filled containers inside. The mass of cold items will enable the refrigerator to recover more quickly after the door has been opened. On the other hand, don't overfill it, since that will interfere with the circulation of cold air inside.
Good Investment
Refrigerators with anti-sweat heaters (which prevent condensation) consume 5 to 10% more energy. Look for models with an "energy saver" switch that lets you turn down — or off — the heaters.
Purchase a chest freezer instead of an upright freezer. Chest freezers are typically better insulated and cold air does not spill out when the door is opened.
Select a refrigerator that is the right size for the household's needs. Larger models use more energy, as do refrigerators that are under-utilized or overly full.
Choose top-freezer models instead of side-by-side refrigerators, which use approximately 10 to 25% more energy.
Heating & Cooling
No Cost
Close drapes, blinds and shades to help retain heat at night or during unoccupied periods.
Check the settings on the room air conditioner. Make sure the "fresh air" vent on the air conditioner is closed so you are not cooling outside air.
Set the thermostat as low as comfortably possible in the winter. The less difference between the indoor and outdoor temperatures, the lower your overall heating bill will be.
Set the temperature lower in the winter when your home is unoccupied. Use a programmable thermostat to automatically lower and raise the temperature according to your settings.
In the winter, reverse your ceiling fan motor so that the blades push air up toward the ceiling, where hot air normally rises. The fan will drive the warm air back down around the edges of the room, which can result in more even heating. Better heat circulation will help combat the problem of sweating windows that some homes experience in the wintertime because of condensation on the glass.
Close drapes, blinds and shades to keep sun's rays out of the home during the warmer months.
Laundry
No Cost
Wash in cold water. Today's laundry detergents are made to clean clothes in cold water. The majority of energy used for washing clothes comes from heating water. Use hot water only for very dirty clothes and always use cold water for rinsing. Save 4%.
Don't overload the washer and dryer. Your clothes may not get clean and may need to be washed again. Overloading dryers uses excess energy because items take longer to dry.
Clean the lint from the clothes dryer after every load. The efficiency of the dryer goes down when lint collects over the dryer filter. Run full loads and use the moisture-sensing setting. Save 5% on your electric bill.
Dry similar types of fabrics together. For example, put towels together in one load. A lower dryer temperature may be used for certain clothes. See the owner's manual for more information.
Line-dry clothes whenever possible. This can save up to 5% of your energy costs.
Presoak or use the soak cycle when washing heavily soiled garments. You will avoid two washings and save energy.
Keep the clothes dryer's outside exhaust clean. A clogged exhaust lengthens drying time and increases energy use.
Electronics & Office
No Cost
To turn off computer scanners, printers and other devices that are plugged into a power strip, simply switch off the power strip after shutting down your computer.
Good Investment
Choose electronic products and appliances without a built-in clock or timer. The displays only consume about a half watt, but the power supply in the appliance is converting 120 volts of alternating current to low-voltage direct current for the clock or timer. This is very inefficient and consumes 20 to 100 watts/hour per day. This is enough to run a compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) continuously for 10 hours.
Avoid leaving electronic products and appliances with small transformers plugged in while not in use.
Office Equipment
No Cost
Do not leave equipment in sleep mode overnight because it will continue to draw a small amount of power. Turn off all equipment every night — especially monitors and printers. Monitors usually consume twice the electricity as CPUs.
Good Investment
Use laptop computers. Laptops use up to 90% less energy than a desktop computer.
Print with ink jet printers instead of laser printers. Ink jet printers cost less to maintain and use 90% less energy than laser printers.
Water Heating
No Cost
Like dishwashers, up to 90% of the cost of operating washing machines is associated with the energy needed to heat the water. Reduce the amount of hot water used by washing clothes in warm water, instead of hot, or in cold water, instead of warm.
Washing only full loads will also reduce hot-water consumption.
Reduce the amount of hot water used by turning the hot-water faucet off while shaving or brushing your teeth.
When you plan to be away from home for three or more days, turn the water heater thermostat down to the lowest setting, or turn the heater off completely. Be sure you know how to relight the pilot light on the gas heater before you turn it off.
Use off-peak power to heat water. For those who have an electric water heater, this usage contributes to the electric utility company's "peak load," or the largest amount of power demand that they have to meet on a daily basis.
Some utilities are required to offer their customers "time of use" rates that vary according to the demand on their system. Lower rates may be charged at "off-peak" times and higher rates at "on-peak" times.
Check with your local electric utility to find out if it offers time-of-use rates for residential customers. Some utilities even offer incentives for customers who allow their utility to install control devices that shut off electric water heaters during peak demand periods.
I would add one more. Use florescent lighting. You can get ones now that screw into existing light sockets. They are expensive to buy but last longer and use much less power.
See Licks2 follow Bahamawave’s post and mine and I will not have to check on your Grandma.
Our guys running a Nuclear plant? They can't even keep the oil burning ones we have now running correctly! We would be another Chernobyl in no time flat!
Thats right, and the whole country would be wiped out!
biggy 09-29-06, - 06:46 AM Our guys running a Nuclear plant? They can't even keep the oil burning ones we have now running correctly! We would be another Chernobyl in no time flat!
Hi CG! Nuclear power requires a highly skilled workforce and oversight mechanism to insure public safety.Is that possible here?
I can say this;in my hometown of Waterford CT,we have hosted 3 nuclear plants since the late 60's.They have thus far proven to be very safe and good neighbors.
RockWell 09-29-06, - 09:17 AM I would think that considering prices just went down that no one would see any indication of lower prices until the next bill arrives......providing prices stay down and the oil regions stay as sane as possible.
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