I am truly curious...

I am not a hard lined PLP in anyway, for my own reasons... but, I have to ask!
Why do some of you, look for every bad thing the PLP does?
With that, what is it that you expected from the PLP when in office and they did not deliver in particular.
(This is a very direct question)

I want to talk about it, because you guys carry some old wounds from long back, and any recent incident in the last two years or so, should not be enough to buy new hate.
There is a very big line between, doing something bad and making something small into a bad situation. The Cuban Dentist, 90, Harajchi all overblown big time by the lot of you.

What is your greatest fear under the PLP?
And why!?

I say this, in light of recent events and all. You guys hated them before the Koed/Kenyatta incident, and before the Harajchi thing. Which to me, was overblown anyways.

So, why the hate first off?
And...
What have they not done, or appeared to not do to get your ire in such a way!?

What is your greatest fear under the PLP?
And why!?


Why do I fear going to hell so much, actually that is the same question in relation to the one you asked.

You see the point ?

Chile y2k, I rather talk about why there is so much hate in the world and why it is that people look for the worst in others in general, etc, than hurt my head with why one is anti-PLP, FNM or whatever.

Remember what you said when we were on the Fist Fight In Cabinet thread? You said there was much more important things in the world going on than to discuss two losers duking it out.

So I'll take a page from your book on this one..lol, cuz no political party can save ya soul or make you whole, so if you dont like 'em - so what?:sailing:

A lot of it you can chalk up to bad PR.... and that's me being conservative in defense of their current public perception. And that is sad bcause in a nation with so much possibility for greatness I don't think anyone should have to defend a ruling party. But truth be told there has been a great deal of ineptitude on the part of the PLP, particularly since they made so many clear and concise pronouncements; which all or in some part got them elected.

1)If it's a question of performance based on what they outlined that they will accomplish......even going as far as to give time lines (oh voting Bahamians eyes li up there) then they have failed miserably.

2)If it's a question of character then and performance since, they have, for the most part failed miserably or lied to the public. Who hasn't done complete flip- flops with their character and sincerity to perform just haven't done anything at all.

3)If its a question of leadership. One that promised it would be "consultative" and "open" and "clear; concise and swift" in its plans and decision making for the benefit of "each and every" Bahamian; they have failed miserably of lied.

4)If it's a question of super-enhanced development of the entrepreneurial spirit for the "basic" Bahamian they have either lied or failed miserably. I don't consider temporary construction jobs or other Tourism related jobs "super- enhanced development". All our eggs still in one damn basket and other industries by which Bahamians can become involved aren't being even looked into.

5)If it's a question of development in our outer Islands, I don't consider most of their announced ventures beneficial to the Islands (both environmentally and socially) in the long run. Particularly relevant to the amount of money they felt was acceptable for all the thousands of acres of prime Gov't land that they have given away. The real estate market for the average Bahamian, in years to come, has been terminally damaged. Hence the Bahamian who just wants to live comfortably will forever be in debt paying banks (foreign owned banks--- cha- ching! as the money leaves the country)

and I even ein start on my fear.. not only of the PLP but the FNM as well cause they aren't or shouldn't be exempt from much of this criticism.... but I ga save that fa later.... I gern to happy hour now n want a good seat at da bar...

Diarra, I can not think of any other reasons that may sum up why this present government is such a pariah among so many young Bahamians!

It seems that no matter how many times it is decleared here that the hate is not for the PLP...but this PLP government. However, some supporters/apologists continue to ask the "numb nutz" question of "why yinna hate the PLP so much"? Anywho...since it seems that the case has been brilliantly made...quoting Diarra...here is my fundamental reasons for NOT LIKING THIS PRESENT GOVERNMENT and wanting see it gone forever!

1)If it's a question of performance based on what they outlined that they will accomplish......even going as far as to give time lines (oh voting Bahamians eyes li up there) then they have failed miserably.

2)If it's a question of character then and performance since, they have, for the most part failed miserably or lied to the public. Who hasn't done complete flip- flops with their character and sincerity to perform just haven't done anything at all.

3)If its a question of leadership. One that promised it would be "consultative" and "open" and "clear; concise and swift" in its plans and decision making for the benefit of "each and every" Bahamian; they have failed miserably of lied.

4)If it's a question of super-enhanced development of the entrepreneurial spirit for the "basic" Bahamian they have either lied or failed miserably. I don't consider temporary construction jobs or other Tourism related jobs "super- enhanced development". All our eggs still in one damn basket and other industries by which Bahamians can become involved aren't being even looked into.

5)If it's a question of development in our outer Islands, I don't consider most of their announced ventures beneficial to the Islands (both environmentally and socially) in the long run. Particularly relevant to the amount of money they felt was acceptable for all the thousands of acres of prime Gov't land that they have given away. The real estate market for the average Bahamian, in years to come, has been terminally damaged. Hence the Bahamian who just wants to live comfortably will forever be in debt paying banks (foreign owned banks--- cha- ching! as the money leaves the country)

and I even ein start on my fear.. not only of the PLP but the FNM as well cause they aren't or shouldn't be exempt from much of this criticism.... but I ga save that fa later.... I gern to happy hour TOO (sic) now n want a good seat at da bar...
:driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving:

Hmmmmmm ...

I am truly curious...
I am not a hard lined PLP in anyway, for my own reasons... but, I have to ask!
Why do some of you, look for every bad thing the PLP does?
With that, what is it that you expected from the PLP when in office and they did not deliver in particular.
(This is a very direct question)
I want to talk about it, because you guys carry some old wounds from long back, and any recent incident in the last two years or so, should not be enough to buy new hate.
There is a very big line between, doing something bad and making something small into a bad situation. The Cuban Dentist, 90, Harajchi all overblown big time by the lot of you.
What is your greatest fear under the PLP?
And why!?
I say this, in light of recent events and all. You guys hated them before the Koed/Kenyatta incident, and before the Harajchi thing. Which to me, was overblown anyways.
So, why the hate first off?
And...
What have they not done, or appeared to not do to get your ire in such a way!?


First off, since you are not a "hard lined PLP" and you are truly "just curious" why don't you create a thread which demands people to explain why they are so "anti-FNM" or "anti-Hubert"
Secondly, tell me the positive aspects you see in The bleachers Issue, The Cuban Dentist/Detention Center, Prison Outbreak, Bradely's Rape Accusations, Allyson Maynard Firing Registrar General, CSME, LNG, Fred Mitchell taking every opportunity to call the Bahamian Public ignorant, Bahamas Little Darlings going to school in trailers, Ron Pinder Flight Incident,90, Harajchi, Work Permit Tribune's Editor Issue, Shane Gibson and Anna Nicole, Koed/Kenyatta incidents....in fact tell me something positive about the WHOLE PLP Cabinet!!!!

First off, since you are not a "hard lined PLP" and you are truly "just curious" why don't you create a thread which demands people to explain why they are so "anti-FNM" or "anti-Hubert"
Secondly, tell me the positive aspects you see in The bleachers Issue, The Cuban Dentist/Detention Center, Prison Outbreak, Bradely's Rape Accusations, Allyson Maynard Firing Registar General, CSME, LNG, Fred Mitchell taking every opportunity to call the Bahamian Public ignorant, Bahamas Little Darlings going to school in trailers, Ron Pinder Flight Incident,90, Harajchi, Work Permit Tribune's Editor Issue, Shane Gibson and Anna Nicole, Koed/Kenyatta incidents....in fact tell me something positive about the WHOLE PLP Cabinet!!!!

Wait's for y2k ... :D

1)If it's a question of performance based on what they outlined that they will accomplish......even going as far as to give time lines (oh voting Bahamians eyes li up there) then they have failed miserably.
Explain with example.

2)If it's a question of character then and performance since, they have, for the most part failed miserably or lied to the public. Who hasn't done complete flip- flops with their character and sincerity to perform just haven't done anything at all.
Example, with source.

3)If its a question of leadership. One that promised it would be "consultative" and "open" and "clear; concise and swift" in its plans and decision making for the benefit of "each and every" Bahamian; they have failed miserably of lied.
Well, they have brought in many consultants!
Swift on the other hand, I may be able to agree with you. The PLP ain'y swift on nothing much. Aside From B-Rob and Shane when he ws building he houses, things aint been that speedy.

4)If it's a question of super-enhanced development of the entrepreneurial spirit for the "basic" Bahamian they have either lied or failed miserably. I don't consider temporary construction jobs or other Tourism related jobs "super- enhanced development". All our eggs still in one damn basket and other industries by which Bahamians can become involved aren't being even looked into.
What about the Investment strategy brought forward by the BOTH Investment Minister's to date "Peet and Maynard-Gibson". I have seen the plans, and saw the output.
The new Domestic investment strategy makes sense, and looks promising.

5)If it's a question of development in our outer Islands, I don't consider most of their announced ventures beneficial to the Islands (both environmentally and socially) in the long run. Particularly relevant to the amount of money they felt was acceptable for all the thousands of acres of prime Gov't land that they have given away. The real estate market for the average Bahamian, in years to come, has been terminally damaged. Hence the Bahamian who just wants to live comfortably will forever be in debt paying banks (foreign owned banks--- cha- ching! as the money leaves the country)
and I even ein start on my fear.. not only of the PLP but the FNM as well cause they aren't or shouldn't be exempt from much of this criticism.... but I ga save that fa later.... I gern to happy hour TOO (sic) now n want a good seat at da bar...
:driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving: :driving:

The FNM did the same thing...They started the monster on PI.
But, I can agree that all parties have to participate in some form of FDI.
This is just part of the teritory and a part of a system we are engulfed in.
:gi:

Explain with example.
Example, with source.
Well, they have brought in many consultants!
Swift on the other hand, I may be able to agree with you. The PLP ain'y swift on nothing much. Aside From B-Rob and Shane when he ws building he houses, things aint been that speedy.
What about the Investment strategy brought forward by the BOTH Investment Minister's to date "Peet and Maynard-Gibson". I have seen the plans, and saw the output.
The new Domestic investment strategy makes sense, and looks promising.
The FNM did the same thing...They started the monster on PI.
But, I can agree that all parties have to participate in some form of FDI.
This is just part of the teritory and a part of a system we are engulfed in.
:gi:

I left the bar bcause I was so interested in hearing a response. But truth be told. The let downs outway the achievements. I come from a inner- hood family. I achieved what no-one has academically in my family. I want to come home... I am coming back home but I am not encouraged by what this elected government has established as a concrete plan for the Bahamas. I am not encouraged by what they have offered the Bahamian populas as representatives, I am not impressed by what they have done............ I wasn't impressed by the FNM in their last years either.... but my god.... it has to stop regardless of party for the sake of the Bahamas man! They have made a far much more mockery of the Bahamian populas in 4 or 5 years than any government we have had in 15 years!

I left the bar bcause I was so interested in hearing a response. But truth be told. The let downs outway the achievements. I come from a inner- hood family. I achieved what no-one has academically in my family. I want to come home... I am coming back home but I am not encouraged by what this elected government has established as a concrete plan for the Bahamas. I am not encouraged by what they have offered the Bahamian populas as representatives, I am not impressed by what they have done............ I wasn't impressed by the FNM in their last years either.... but my god.... it has to stop regardless of party for the sake of the Bahamas man! They have made a far much more mockery of the Bahamian populas in 4 or 5 years than any government we have had in 15 years!


my older son is oversees in college & I encourage him to never return to the bahamas.
I tell my other 2 kids the same thing when they go to college abroad.

To everything there is a season,
a time for every purpose under the sun.
A time to be born and a time to die;
a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
a time to kill and a time to heal ...
a time to weep and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn and a time to dance ...
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing;
a time to lose and a time to seek;
a time to rend and a time to sew;
a time to keep silent and a time to speak;
a time to love and a time to hate;
a time for war and a time for peace.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

I am truly curious...
I am not a hard lined PLP in anyway, for my own reasons... but, I have to ask!
Why do some of you, look for every bad thing the PLP does?
With that, what is it that you expected from the PLP when in office and they did not deliver in particular.
(This is a very direct question)
I want to talk about it, because you guys carry some old wounds from long back, and any recent incident in the last two years or so, should not be enough to buy new hate.
There is a very big line between, doing something bad and making something small into a bad situation. The Cuban Dentist, 90, Harajchi all overblown big time by the lot of you.
What is your greatest fear under the PLP?
And why!?
I say this, in light of recent events and all. You guys hated them before the Koed/Kenyatta incident, and before the Harajchi thing. Which to me, was overblown anyways.
So, why the hate first off?
And...
What have they not done, or appeared to not do to get your ire in such a way!?

Come now, you are not a hard line PLP?!!!

Come now, you are not a hard line PLP?!!!


I am what you call a PLP/FNM/CDR/BDM/Independent.
:p
I am everything when it suits my purpose...but, I know sense and I know foolishness.

I started the topic because, it seems as if some people were having true difficulty with the PLP BEFOREHAND, as opposed to them having issue with anything that they did, or did not do recently.
The incidents just seem to "solidify" any thoughts they may have....and they have explained why they are upset as of recent, but, they still have not explained why they hated them beforehand?
Get my drift!

The post was directed to Wintergrace, Watsayu and that crowd!
;)

my older son is oversees in college & I encourage him to never return to the bahamas.
I tell my other 2 kids the same thing when they go to college abroad.


That is so selfish.
Staying away for an extended period, 5-7 years, yes. But, to tell them to stay forever, wil not help the Bahamas, but only allow it to sink WITH the foreigners who come in. And then , be more reason for you to be angry and bitter.

Do you think American's, during and post independence, would have told their kids to leave the new country, for the old country?