If it wasnt classified but just wasnt released yet .. then it cant be illegal.
So they'd first have to prove that it was classified under the law. ..
Ofcourse the leaker can still get fired though ... and as the government has more money than the journal (do they?) they could easily take the journel to court ... but is that worth it ..? Its the citizens money and the citizens wanted to hear the report ... once we arent living under a communist government I think the citizens still have a say in what the government does ... or do we ..?


Once we establish that the leaker was wrong.
Second, if it has not been given the stamp of approval by the Ministry or the PS, technically it is not a report.

So we have to ascertain, whether or not the report was available with stamp of approval to be released, or just a finished piece of work, that only needed a stamp of approval.

If it was made available, through the proper chanel "and I would seriously bet that a report of this magnitude would have to go through the proper chanel" then you bloodthirsty pit-bulls have a case.
Other than that, fire that bum who decided to take the law into his own hands.

The FNM and BDM and CDR can allways moan about, how long it is taking for the report to be released. But, once it has not yet reached for the stamp of approval, nothing can be done about it.
Get used to the way our Government works baby!
:bahamas: :heartbeat

Tell me something y2k. If you sign a contract with your employer that you will not use the phone to make personal calls, and you do anyway..what law have you broken?
If your contract says you must not come to work late, and you keep coming late, which law of the commonwealth of the Bahamas have you broken?
Breaching your contract with your employer doesnt necessarily translate into breaking the law unless what you did is illegal according to the laws of the commonwealth of the Bahamas
Oh my Lord..did you say your brother is Castro??? The GOVERNMENT IS THE LAW? My brother, I dont believe you are ignorant...so you should know that the LAW is the LAW, and the government is bound to obey the LAW. The government is not a law unto themselves in a democracy!!!!


THE GENERAL ORDERS IS THE LAW .....NATIONBUILDER...
You can not be that daft!
:biggie: :screw:

I ga ask you again..."Do you think it is lawful, or legal, for anyone to leak Government information in the Bahamas!?!"...
Yes, or no!
If you say, yes...you are crazy.
If you say, no...I would imagine you were sleep posting, and forget the matter ever happened!

Once we establish that the leaker was wrong.
Second, if it has not been given the stamp of approval by the Ministry or the PS, technically it is not a report.
Um..did I forget to mention that Jesus is an FNM? :sarcastic ..***shakes head***

Atleast you accept that they belong to US - keyword here is US, not the government. And if it belongs to US, a government has no right withholding it from us.
lol..well if he is producing them in parliament whats the big deal? And if the media is reporting them whats the big deal - so long as what belongs to US is communicated to US.

I don't wanna belabour the point as I haven't read the report to know what information it held. What I do know of the publishing of this type of report in other places is that after obtaining said information a responsible journalist and or newspaper would contact the relevant agencies and advise them of the fact that the document is in your possession and give them an opportunity to advise you as to which portions they consider too sensitive to be published and to give a credible explanation as to why. These types of courtesies would foster a healthier relationship between The Government and the media. Sadly neither seems willing to show the degree of respect for the other that would accomplish this.
And regarding the big deal. It is a big deal when a person takes it upon his or her self to decide what to do with documents that belong to us all. That was not their decision to make.
The department of statistics frequently conducts surveys. They would be able to collect some pretty sensitive information about us all. Should someone be allowed to publish your salary, and or sexual history because the information ultimately belongs to us.

THE GENERAL ORDERS IS THE LAW .....NATIONBUILDER...
You can not be that daft!
:biggie: :screw:

Your ignorance amazes me y2k, it really does. GENERAL ORDERS is the LAW? My God. ***shakes head in disbelief***

Remind me of what the role of parliament is again while you at it being incredibly simple..since you have just stated that whatever comes out of a government official's mouth is the law!

You too old to be this jokey.

If it wasnt classified but just wasnt released yet .. then it cant be illegal.
So they'd first have to prove that it was classified under the law. ..


It is still illegal. Any document generated in a work place is the property of that work place and to remove it is tantamount to stealing.


Ofcourse the leaker can still get fired though ... and as the government has more money than the journal (do they?) they could easily take the journel to court ... but is that worth it ..? Its the citizens money and the citizens wanted to hear the report ... once we arent living under a communist government I think the citizens still have a say in what the government does ... or do we ..?


Every five years, or four and a half in some cases.

I don't wanna belabour the point as I haven't read the report to know what information it held. What I do know of the publishing of this type of report in other places is that after obtaining said information a responsible journalist and or newspaper would contact the relevant agencies and advise them of the fact that the document is in your possession and give them an opportunity to advise you as to which portions they consider too sensitive to be published and to give a credible explanation as to why. These types of courtesies would foster a healthier relationship between The Government and the media. Sadly neither seems willing to show the degree of respect for the other that would accomplish this.
And regarding the big deal. It is a big deal when a person takes it upon his or her self to decide what to do with documents that belong to us all. That was not their decision to make.
The department of statistics frequently conducts surveys. They would be able to collect some pretty sensitive information about us all. Should someone be allowed to publish your salary, and or sexual history because the information ultimately belongs to us.


Sometimes, I just like it when you get on the ball.

Try to to the Dept of Stats, and get information for a report, that has NOT been published. You would see just what happens.
You may be jailed if you take it, and the person who may or may not have given it to you can lose their job and much worse!
:what:

I don't wanna belabour the point as I haven't read the report to know what information it held. What I do know of the publishing of this type of report in other places is that after obtaining said information a responsible journalist and or newspaper would contact the relevant agencies and advise them of the fact that the document is in your possession and give them an opportunity to advise you as to which portions they consider too sensitive to be published and to give a credible explanation as to why.

redhead..no government agency can tell a media house what should make news and what shouldnt though. Media houses are bound by the LAW, which prohibits them from publishing info on matters that are currently before the courts. Unless the matter is before the courts, or the matter is libelous, they do not need any group to tell them what to print and what not to.

Do you remember that you live in a "free country"?


The department of statistics frequently conducts surveys. They would be able to collect some pretty sensitive information about us all. Should someone be allowed to publish your salary, and or sexual history because the information ultimately belongs to us.

Well fortunately the DOS doesnt collect specific salary info or your sexual history, though I understand your point.

Its the citizens money and the citizens wanted to hear the report ... once we arent living under a communist government I think the citizens still have a say in what the government does ... or do we ..?

There it is. We paid for the report, but we arent allowed to see it. And we live in a free country and the information is ours, but we have no right getting access to info we paid for and is ours unless the government says we are allowed to see it.

Bey Cuba is looking closer and closer every day.

redhead..no government agency can tell a media house what should make news and what shouldnt though. Media houses are bound by the LAW, which prohibits them from publishing info on matters that are currently before the courts. Unless the matter is before the courts, or the matter is libelous, they do not need any group to tell them what to print and what not to.Do you remember that you live in a "free country"?
Well fortunately the DOS doesnt collect specific salary info or your sexual history, though I understand your point.


I think that this statement sums up what is contributing to the strained relationship between The Government and the media in this country. Please don't try to place all the blame on The Government because I know that you see what I see, and very likely more.

Your ignorance amazes me y2k, it really does. GENERAL ORDERS is the LAW? My God. ***shakes head in disbelief***
Remind me of what the role of parliament is again while you at it being incredibly simple..since you have just stated that whatever comes out of a government official's mouth is the law!
You too old to be this jokey.


You really need to walk in the real world Missy...:p
Law is not just a law book, in bold type. Law is also infered and implied.
Law also follows the form of conduct that Parliament, or the highest court, jurisdiction passes. We are just as much a country of law, as we are a country of rules a regulation. The General Order is an edict passed down by the Gov General "in essence" with Parliament entertwined in the constitution. It is attached to law and code.
If broken, it is punishable.

O.K....since you believe it is "OK"...go ahead and try sneaking choice info out of a Government Dept. I would love to go to your trial!
:friday:

Article 7 of the public service hand-book.
;)
In fact NO ONE is supposed to publish a Government report, without the consent of Government Printing.
If they do, they need very special permission. If they have not got that, their friggin slacknes ga get all a dem fired and the Guardian psued!

Only those officers that signed secrecy pledges.....the high ups (BECAUSE OF SECRECY ACT)!!!!! AND FURTHER MORE, NATURAL LAW DICTATES THAT WHEN A GOVERNMENT HAS GONE AWRY AND HIDE "PUBLIC" INFORMATION FROM THE "PEOPLE"....CONSTITUTIONALLY WE ARE BOUND TO TAKE IT BACK....BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! AFTER ALL, THAT INFORMATION WAS COMPLIED BY PUBLIC OFFICERS, USING MONEY FROM THE CONSOLIDATED FUND....ITS WE TINGS!!!!! JUST LIKE THIS GOVERNMENT....EVERYTHING EEN WE BUSINESS!!!! dAMN..EVERY TIME MOFA DOING SOMETHING......IT EEN WE BUSINESS!!! YINNA FORGET WHO YALL WORKING FOR ER?

WHAT YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL LIE TO THE PEOPLE AT THE DROP OF A HAT......BASTIDS!!! SO WE END UP WITH A SITUATION THAT EVEN IF THIS CREW SPEAKS TRUTH.....THEY ARE SERIOUSLY SUSPECTED BY THE MASSES!!! WHAT AN INDICTMENT FOR NATIONAL LEADERS....FIT FOR NOTHING!!!:fly: :fly: :fly: :fly:

You really need to walk in the real world Missy...:p
Law is not just a law book, in bold type. Law is also infered and implied.
I finish with you on this subject y2k, because you dont know what in the world you are talking about.

I hope you never have to stand before the courts for breaking a law that doesnt exist, but that someone IMPLIED or INFERRED exists! lol :dunce:

Only those officers that signed secrecy pledges.....the high ups!!!!! AND FURTHER MORE, NATURAL LAW DICTATES THAT WHEN A GOVERNMENT HAS GONE AWRY AND HIDE "PUBLIC" INFORMATION FROM THE "PEOPLE"....CONSTITUTIONALLY WE ARE BOUND TO TAKE IT BACK....BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! AFTER ALL, THAT INFORMATION WAS COMPLIED BY PUBLIC OFFICERS, USING MONEY FROM THE CONSOLIDATED FUND....ITS WE TINGS!!!!! JUST LIKE THIS GOVERNMENT....EVERYTHING EEN WE BUSINESS!!!! dAMN..EVERY TIME MOFA DOING SOMETHING......IT EEN WE BUSINESS!!! YINNA FORGET WHO YALL WORKING FOR ER?
WHAT YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL LIE TO THE PEOPLE AT THE DROP OF A HAT......BASTIDS!!! SO WE END UP WITH A SITUATION THAT EVEN IF THIS CREW SPEAKS TRUTH.....THEY ARE SERIOUSLY SUSPECTED BY THE MASSES!!! WHAT AN INDICTMENT FOR NATIONAL LEADERS....FIT FOR NOTHING!!!:fly: :fly: :fly: :fly:

You know what it is..Bahamians are scared of true free speech and true freedom of information..Because as long as governments can hide stuff, we can continue to live under this sickening veil that our beloved politicians are oh so wonderful.

All secrecy does is promote corruption.

We dont want truth. We cant handle the truth. And the only truth some of us are willing to accept is the truth that drips from the mouth of our beloved politician.

"Yes sir, I'll only know what you say I can know sir, and nothing more sir"

It is still illegal. Any document generated in a work place is the property of that work place and to remove it is tantamount to stealing.

Need to check the law on that, i wouldnt really know, though seeing as most of our laws are pre-digital age, and more serious laws are never enforced, i doubt it. In fact even if it is against the law, it is more than hypocritical for the government (whichever agency) to go after anyone on this .. its just sad and pathetic when they don enforce the more serious crimes.


Every five years, or four and a half in some cases.

No, actually we as citizens have a say in every single thing they do.