I had a question for Delroy, but i think this is something more people need to chew on for a couple of minutes

[QUOTE=Delroy
Adam lived almost for a century which is enough time for him to have many daughters. You and your wife are decedents of Adam.



Question: does this point towards incest, i mean did brother and sister make babies. Or did Mother and sons make babies... What is the difference, it is still incest and inbreed isnt it ???
Please tell me if i am wrong, and maybe explain how mankind could multiply otherwise.

My next question: How does the church deal with people that are known or suspects of incest,are these people treated on the same level as Gay people. I ask this question because it appear to me that the good book doesnt take any action against incest, nor gays. I might be wrong, so please enlighten me.


Regards
Ostrom

I had a question for Delroy, but i think this is something more people need to chew on for a couple of minutes

[QUOTE=Delroy
Adam lived almost for a century which is enough time for him to have many daughters. You and your wife are decedents of Adam.



Question: does this point towards incest, i mean did brother and sister make babies. Or did Mother and sons make babies... What is the difference, it is still incest and inbreed isnt it ???
Please tell me if i am wrong, and maybe explain how mankind could multiply otherwise.

My next question: How does the church deal with people that are known or suspects of incest,are these people treated on the same level as Gay people. I ask this question because it appear to me that the good book doesnt take any action against incest, nor gays. I might be wrong, so please enlighten me.


Regards
Ostrom Hi Ostrom Christians like Delroy ignore questions that create questions of their faith.
Since Christianity became an organized religion (ref. Emperor Constantine) it has used ignorance fear and hatred.

Much of the time murdering hundreds of thousands of people in the name of Christ. Kind of hypocritical wouldn’t you say. Then they say oops we made a mistake but keep on believing what we say as we are right. The question is do you want to keep putting your faith in oops?

Study the history of the Bible and Christianity and any other religion that you might have an interest in for your self then make choices for your faith. There is a message you will find in most other religions. Respect other people. Or in the teachings of Christ “Love thy neighbor as they self”. This is a message that most Christians have lost.



As for your question on Adam and Eve story. Many Bible scholars say it just a reference point to have a beginning.



If you read further on in the book of Geneses you will see that Cane went to the land of Nod and found a wife. This means there were other humans on earth at the time. It also reads the Adams sons had wives now if they were his sisters or other humans is a question.



So the question should be what did Adams sons have sex with to propagate the human race?? If it was incest that could be the answer why the human race is so messed up.

How is it that we now have to bash someone's faith just to answer a question? Maybe there are some who prefer to research the question before responding. Maybe he just had not gotten around to responding yet. Also, one should not be judged by the past of another which is in reference to the statement that you made about killing in the name of Christ. I truly dont believe that todays Christians should be held responsible for the actions of those that did such a thing. Anyway, we all have to make our own decision as to faith. I choose to believe in Christianity. Let's do away with faith bashing if possible. As far as the questions are concerned, it seems as if the world as gotten to the state where everything that is wrong is accepted for right. Therefore, in the end, even if one should here the truth, if his flesh is more pruned to do that which the world says is acceptable, he would do so anyway. I believe we all know what is right from wrong. It's a matter of what we do with it. Oh, not all Christians are afraid to stand for that which is right. " For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of peace, love and of a sound mind."

Hi Lisa
How is it that we now have to bash someone's faith just to answer a question? Maybe there are some who prefer to research the question before responding. Maybe he just had not gotten around to responding yet. Let me clarify something I do live by the teachings of Christ. So I am not Bashing a religion I am pointing out the fact that in the past the church used its influance over the people to cause fear, hate and violance in the name of Christ. To me the Christ I follow never stood for any of these things. Now most of these so called Christian leaders are permoting fear, hate which ultamitly lead to violance. The point here is if the church was mistaken then could they not be mistaken now. Christ him self was killed because he spoke a new truth. Can add to that many other people like Martin Luther King. How long will we allow religious leaders to promote fear and hate. Also, one should not be judged by the past of another which is in reference to the statement that you made about killing in the name of Christ. Why do we study history to learn from our past. I truly dont believe that todays Christians should be held responsible for the actions of those that did such a thing. I do not blame anyone for the mistakes of the past. But unless someone points them out (the things you are not supposed to know) there is great risk of fear hate and violance happening again. Anyway, we all have to make our own decision as to faith. I choose to believe in Christianity. Let's do away with faith bashing if possible. As far as the questions are concerned, it seems as if the world as gotten to the state where everything that is wrong is accepted for right. My point exactly, It was accepted as right to muder people just because they were left handed. What makes killing a person because they are left handed wrong today. Because things change. Think! how would have the people thought back in the burning times when their whole lives they belived left handed people were workers of satan and it was a good thing to kill them. They would sound just like you when someone was telling them it was wrong to hate lefthanded people. Look up the word sinister. Why was it a sin to be left handed??? Therefore, in the end, even if one should here the truth, if his flesh is more pruned to do that which the world says is acceptable, he would do so anyway. Yes that is so true some one would say I be left handed today even if it would cost me my family friends job and even my life. Now let change it a bit. I be homosexual (or like me transgendered) today even if it would cost me my family friends job and even my life. Do you really think its a choice?? I believe we all know what is right from wrong. The Christians back then thought they were infallible what makes Christians today infallible? Or are they? It's a matter of what we do with it. Oh, not all Christians are afraid to stand for that which is right. " For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of peace, love and of a sound mind."

Hi Lisa
I feel the same way about this bahamas,the church should not be involved in any thing besides the church!They are always into other people's business and life.....
Like gay's,political issues and other things that christains shouldn't have anything to do with.It says so right in the BIBLE..
Thank you for writing this letter Lisa.
My name is Alice..

The original question was, "Is it criminal to be gay in the eyes of the Church?" The answer to that is "yes!" Should it be? There is the debate of the century.

The OT seems to imply that it is, along with lots and lots of other things! The NT seems to be a testament of forgiveness. Very few things are condemned. It also says that few of us are without guile. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Sometimes I fear that the church has truck loads of stones ready! They need to empty those trucks and fill them with the teachings of the Master.

To CG.
You know what, I truly long for the day when people stop using scripture to justify their faults. Yes it is true that we should not throw stones because we all have some type of fault in our lives. However CG, should we say that we are right to continue doing wrong just because everyone else has a fault? I think not. Also, the NT truly does not dismiss everything the OT has to say. Go back and read the books of Galations and Ephesians where they speak on the fruits of the flesh and of the spirit if you have some time. Anyway, hope to talk soon.

Thanks Lissa for your reply.

You said, "You know what, I truly long for the day when people stop using scripture to justify their faults."
Well, I am not a Christian so I don’t use your Scriptures in that way. I use my Scriptures (Buddhist) to throw light on my own - not other peoples faults. However, the Christian is famous for using the Bible to do just what you say - and to condemn others into the bargain! So I can agree with you.

You also said, "However CG, should we say that we are right to continue doing wrong just because everyone else has a fault? I think not."
I think not too. We should be working to correct our fault first. Other people faults are not out business. That is the Buddhist view. The Christian view is that sin IS everyone’s business

You said, "Also, the NT truly does not dismiss everything the OT has to say." No it does not. Jesus said that he did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. At the same time Jesus offered a grace that is hard to find in the OT. He offered a grace that is sometimes hard to find in some Christians. Happily, there are many Christian that understand that their spiritual work is their spiritual work. Leave it to the Holy Spirit (in the Christian view) to convict the other person of his faults. It is not our business. All I am saying is don’t throw stones (Jesus said that too!)