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ebo
08-28-04, - 03:33 PM
Homosexuality has its place in nature and serves a purpose if we would only view it dispassionately.

The purpose of sex is to perpetuate the species. Anything that cannot result in offspring cannot really be called sex. It is intimate contact.

There can be no question that people who term themselves gay or lesbian have rights. They have and should have the same rights as every other person. We should not make special laws. Laws should not be used to condone certain lifestyles. There is no need.

If homosexuality is not illegal, everybody should have the right to practice it.

The evolutionary function of homosexuality is to put the brakes on population growth (to limit the expansion of any species). The more crowded the earth becomes, the stronger the drives for homosexual acts will become.

It does not take a brain surgeon, though investigation of the brain suggests this, to see that some people are born gay. This does not mean that because a person is born gay they must practice homosexuality.

From the time we are born our cultures teach us homosexuality is wrong. Our cultures are changing. After the roaring debate, we will settle on homosexuality being a different normal. Time is needed to overcome prejudices.

NASBWI
11-15-04, - 05:27 PM
As the 'product' (if you will) of an interracial union, I think it's fair that I contribute my two cents on the matter.

Contrary to the apparent popular opinion in this forum, there is NO difference in the "level" of equality of anyone, regardless of one's race. I don't think for a minute that someone with a different shade of brown is any more or less equal than I am; If I did, then I suppose anyone with a sense of logic could easily assume that I'm lacking self-esteem rather than loyalty to my race (or rather,a lack thereof). With regard to the "separate but equal" comments, I have a question to pose:

If we can be equal and separate, why can't be we just as equal together? For the record, my parents have been married for 24 years, and they are still going strong. As someone else put it, "Love conquers all", and this is very much true.

Since moving to Maryland, I've noticed a lot of race-consciousness (not necessarily prejudice, but rather curiosity) when it comes to people of mixed race (the standard questions being "so what exactly are you?" or "do you think you're more white or black?"). This is something I half-expected, but I never understood. Growing up in Nassau, aside from the average "white" comments (due to my lighter skin tone and the school I attended), I never had to deal with the race issue. So it's a bit of a shock that so many people back home feel this way.

Perhaps my post isn't making too much sense at the moment, but the point I'm trying to make (and I'm sure it's been made already) is that even though we are all different, we shouldn't be pigeon-holed into some black/white category; nor should we be made to feel as though we're somewhat "diluted" because we're not completely black, white, asian, hispanic, blue, green, or purple.

As a side note: While I respect that many people cannot begin to condone homosexuality, I would ask that you at least try to empathize with someone who is GLBT. At least then, you can try to understand it a bit better, before jumping to such conclusions that it's a disease or a choice. Thanks for reading.

Great Demos
11-26-04, - 10:40 AM
As the 'product' (if you will) of an interracial union, I think it's fair that I contribute my two cents on the matter.

Contrary to the apparent popular opinion in this forum, there is NO difference in the "level" of equality of anyone, regardless of one's race. I don't think for a minute that someone with a different shade of brown is any more or less equal than I am; If I did, then I suppose anyone with a sense of logic could easily assume that I'm lacking self-esteem rather than loyalty to my race (or rather,a lack thereof). With regard to the "separate but equal" comments, I have a question to pose:

If we can be equal and separate, why can't be we just as equal together? For the record, my parents have been married for 24 years, and they are still going strong. As someone else put it, "Love conquers all", and this is very much true.

Since moving to Maryland, I've noticed a lot of race-consciousness (not necessarily prejudice, but rather curiosity) when it comes to people of mixed race (the standard questions being "so what exactly are you?" or "do you think you're more white or black?"). This is something I half-expected, but I never understood. Growing up in Nassau, aside from the average "white" comments (due to my lighter skin tone and the school I attended), I never had to deal with the race issue. So it's a bit of a shock that so many people back home feel this way.

Perhaps my post isn't making too much sense at the moment, but the point I'm trying to make (and I'm sure it's been made already) is that even though we are all different, we shouldn't be pigeon-holed into some black/white category; nor should we be made to feel as though we're somewhat "diluted" because we're not completely black, white, asian, hispanic, blue, green, or purple.

As a side note: While I respect that many people cannot begin to condone homosexuality, I would ask that you at least try to empathize with someone who is GLBT. At least then, you can try to understand it a bit better, before jumping to such conclusions that it's a disease or a choice. Thanks for reading.


Hi NASBWI, something you said reminds me of how a pastor dealt with someone who was constantly looking at him and seemed to be regarding the pastor as a big question mark!

The pastor was very light skinned [could almost "pass" for white]. They were on a plane in flight. The looker finally said to the pastor, "I was just wondering what you are and where are you from!"

"Homo Sapien, Planet Earth!" the pastor shot back suddenly. WHAT are YOU!?"

"O no, brother, am sorry, I didn't mean it like that ......." and on and on he condescended to the pastor.

parietal_03
12-13-04, - 04:22 AM
This country is to small for this type of S*&T

You ever see? I'm of the radical opinion that if one believes in different races of man, then simply put, that person is a racist. There is nothing wrong with being a racist, the problem begins when the idea that one is better than the other seeps in. There is, in my opinion, something wrong with this thing we've come to know as bigotry.
I grew to love my wife long before I ever even laid eyes on her, as it turns out, my wife is very much so a suitable help-meet for me.
Somatotypically, my wife is an endomorph, she is what some would consider Caucasian and "looks Iranian." Which according to vanguards of the MTV culture, is a phenomenon ("white women with ***"-P.Diddy).

Just the other day she said something to me, she said, "People here don't see me as 'German-American' they see me as 'white' just as most people here see you as 'black' and not Bahamian.

Like Yorick and many others here, I have that ability to be fluent, I can speak "Queen's English" one minute and spout dialect the next. It took me quite some time though for my In-Laws to get used to my accent, to help them adjust I would deliberately say things in dialect, then repeat in "Queen's".
My wife and her family are most appreciative of my accent and LOVE it (for some reason) especially when I get angry. As a result of that fluency they've come to learn about Bahamiana and how it relates to them and vice versa. As it turns out they're "Dutch-German-Swede" (sp?) raised in Hawaii, so we pretty much have alot in common.
Like ebo said, and I'll agree, culture is the most important thing. And granted for some this may not constitute as a cultural difference, but my wife was an only child, and a 'miracle-child' at that, whereas I am the first of three. The majority of whatever marital issues that do arise, stem from that, if anything.

Though I await the day these stupid names for valid things cease to exist. Of all people in the history of the world, WE, should know that the world has names for "us" and just as Vicki suggests about the world-gone-by's notion of a flat earth is "not quite correct", the same can be said about some of it's monikers for valid conditions, processes and people.

Melody
12-13-04, - 05:56 AM
Personally I don't think people even noice interracial marriages now. I think the thing is international relationships now. Its not the color, its the fact that you chose a foreigner over a Bahamian.

Most persons try to put you on a guilt trip or even try to put you down for choosing a person from another country.

They try to say that the reason you gone over there for a spouse is because you can't keep a Bahamian.

But the honest truth about it is that is just where the heart went. I don't think when you meet someone you even think about the nationailty or color you just see a person.

Give these slow learners a break. They will catch up one day.

Mel

bsmbahamas
12-13-04, - 11:25 AM
We are all one family. Descended from Noah and his children, and of course from Adam and Eve.

Their is only one human race, just different tongues and nationalities.

Just like their are hundred of dog species, they are still all canines, not felines.

And even though I don't like the Haitians in particular illegally taking advantage of our country, I like being able to learn from all the many cultures of people that visit the Bahamas.

And although I am biased toward 'black' bahamian women, I find women of other cultures quite intrigiung, especially the cultures in which the women actually take care of their family and are not just concerned with how much their husbands make and how much they can make.

Something about accents just intrigues me ... :biggie:

as long as they aren't taking advantage of our country, I say let em come and lets get to know one another.

racism sucks.

CG
12-13-04, - 04:55 PM
We are all one family. Descended from Noah and his children, and of course from Adam and Eve.

Their is only one human race, just different tongues and nationalities.

Just like their are hundred of dog species, they are still all canines, not felines.

And even though I don't like the Haitians in particular illegally taking advantage of our country, I like being able to learn from all the many cultures of people that visit the Bahamas.

And although I am biased toward 'black' bahamian women, I find women of other cultures quite intrigiung, especially the cultures in which the women actually take care of their family and are not just concerned with how much their husbands make and how much they can make.

Something about accents just intrigues me ... :biggie:

as long as they aren't taking advantage of our country, I say let em come and lets get to know one another.

racism sucks.

The only surviving hominid (a primate of the family Hominidae) species left is us, Homo Sapiens. We are a bipedal (have two feet and can walk upright) primate. We have language and ability to make and use complex tools. Our brain capacity is 1400 cc, give or take! We are divided into five major groups, or races: Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Amer-Indian, and Australoid. That is the cold, hard facts of our biology.

But I would agree with you. The more gentle description would be, we are all one family - with more important things to worry about than who marries whom!

Vicky
12-14-04, - 08:51 AM
The only surviving hominid (a primate of the family Hominidae) species left is us, Homo Sapiens. We are a bipedal (have two feet and can walk upright) primate. We have language and ability to make and use complex tools. Our brain capacity is 1400 cc, give or take! We are divided into five major groups, or races: Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Amer-Indian, and Australoid. That is the cold, hard facts of our biology.

But I would agree with you. The more gentle description would be, we are all one family - with more important things to worry about than who marries whom!

CG watch out thier gona pick on you. "with more important things to worry about than who marries whom!" Looks like its worried about alot these days.

bsmbahamas
12-15-04, - 08:56 AM
As far as I understand, church and state is separated with the church being an advisor to the government, which is said to be built on christian principles
- though the government isn't that christian in my humble opinion.

Nevertheless, the government makes the rules not the church.

The church should not pick on anyone, they should only urge the government to follow their principles - just like any well meaning group can approach the government and try to influence them.

I personal do not care who marries who as long as they are inline with christianity - and like Parietal_03 said on another thread, we should not argue with the world, just advise them, we will all rewarded according to how we live our lives.

Rizzo
12-15-04, - 09:48 AM
Ok....this forum is about Interracial Romance right? :confused:

parietal_03
12-15-04, - 05:05 PM
Ok....this forum is about Interracial Romance right? :confused:

LOL, It bout monkeys nah!

Rizzo
12-15-04, - 05:22 PM
These things is stray alot bey!

CG
12-15-04, - 07:50 PM
LOL, It bout monkeys nah!

Primates, yes. Monkeys no. At least I hope not! :p

parietal_03
12-15-04, - 09:19 PM
Primates, yes. Monkeys no. At least I hope not! :p

Ma bouy! What sweet you so? Nah you KNOW that's exactly what the first ting ga be. You should BOLD dat. PRIMATES.
LOL@ "monkeys"!