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1bigfrog
12-14-06, - 08:49 AM
Amongst the private parties and the elaborate functions, the "12" learned gentlmen representing Her Majesties Court will be seething in Bahamian sun, soaking in Bahamian culture and educating themselves in Bahamian protocal.

Truly, the very idea of them being in the Bahamas is a fascinating event which merits whosoever invited the distinguish gentleman. The Bahamas will play host to these gentleman for two weeks. Two weeks of hosting them at the finest hotels, pampering them and assigning them white gloved personal assistants to be their guide, two weeks of ensuring that breakfast, lunch and dinner are provided, moreover ensuring that the availability of an assortment of teas exists with small cucumba sandwiches and scoons; two weeks of providing the most rigid of security, the finest of transportations and the most elaborate of Bahamian entertainment. Two weeks of spending monies that we clearly do not have, monies that we are clearly short of in order to help our citizens who cry out for immediate assistance. Certainly, whenever this pomp and pangentry is over the bill will be in the tens of thousands and what will the Bahamian public have gain/benefit of this...I shall wait and see.

Excalibur
12-14-06, - 03:09 PM
Deep stuff!

Where I can I get confirmation that the entire bill (or even partial) is being collected by the treasury? This is too deep.

Also, using their services as the Bahamas does (the highest court of appeal in the Bahamas), do we pay them anything in return?

de redhead
12-14-06, - 08:32 PM
Deep stuff!
Where I can I get confirmation that the entire bill (or even partial) is being collected by the treasury? This is too deep.
Also, using their services as the Bahamas does (the highest court of appeal in the Bahamas), do we pay them anything in return?


They are here hearing Bahamian cases. Who do you suggest should pay them? This is the first time that The Privy Council has sat outside of Britain. It may cost some money, but it lends more prestige to The Bahamas. The Ministry of Tourism pays for ad campaigns every day. This is small change in comparison and may have a huge beneficial impact. If y'all knew some of the ways our money was being spent I guess y'all would dead.

Rory
12-14-06, - 08:41 PM
They are here hearing Bahamian cases. Who do you suggest should pay them? This is the first time that The Privy Council has sat outside of Britain. It may cost some money, but it lends more prestige to The Bahamas. The Ministry of Tourism pays for ad campaigns every day. This is small change in comparison and may have a huge beneficial impact. If y'all knew some of the ways our money was being spent I guess y'all would dead.

for real .. when i heard how much the MOT pays out just to Expedia every month I was like .. :eek:

PS @ bigfrog .. its scones .. ;)
and i'll take some devonshire clotted cream and some jam with them thanks .. :)

islandgyal
12-14-06, - 09:17 PM
for real .. when i heard how much the MOT pays out just to Expedia every month I was like .. :eek:
PS @ bigfrog .. its scones .. ;)
and i'll take some devonshire clotted cream and some jam with them thanks .. :)


scoons? perhaps our esteemed writer is in fact a belonger from glasgow:taped2: ??

chancellor
12-14-06, - 11:04 PM
I don't know the issue is a tricky thing with some people. We cry because the government pays travel expenses to send diplomats and our Minister of Foreign affairs out of the country....like our minister of Foreign affairs is supposed to stay locked up here. Gods below don't let a Foreign head of state have a state visit here!

I agree with some things.....but really if everyone in the world acted like some Bahamians here no country would send their ambassadors anywhere. Each state would be iscolated from each other.

It's certainly ironic for a nation whose people clearly do not practice financial prudence in their own pockets, that we have time to entertain a heart attack for several thousand dollars of public money that wont really even make a minimal impact on anything, accept probably hiring another civil servant against a moritorium, who may or may not work to their potential. We can row about proirities when a good portion of our citezens live without a sence of one. They are not just guests, they are an arm of our judiciary. Now if you want to talk though, talk about the money we spend on the Carribean Court of Justice....the one we DON'T USE!

Imagine how we would act if we had our own local head of state, who would be privy to impressive state functions and visits, living expenses, security detail, transportation.

Man....relax and watch junkanoo!

Sunflower
12-17-06, - 09:18 AM
Just a note to alleviate any concerns of members on BI these Law Lords are actually here to do some work as reference by this link
http://www.courtofappeal.org.bs/news.php?action=view&article=119

But is 4 cases/a week's worth of work, worth hosting a lavish reception at The One and Only Ocean Club and a formal Dinner at Sandals? Both of these events are invitation only events so only senior lawyers will be in attendance.

We the Bahamian people are watching and waiting to see how this historical event will play itself out. Long Live the Queen!

Great Demos
12-18-06, - 09:50 AM
Just a note to alleviate any concerns of members on BI these Law Lords are actually here to do some work as reference by this link
http://www.courtofappeal.org.bs/news.php?action=view&article=119
But is 4 cases/a week's worth of work, worth hosting a lavish reception at The One and Only Ocean Club and a formal Dinner at Sandals? Both of these events are invitation only events so only senior lawyers will be in attendance.
We the Bahamian people are watching and waiting to see how this historical event will play itself out. Long Live the Queen!

And one of the things I thought they were going to do was resolve the situation with judge John Lyons.

I mean they are right here and the messy things the judge brought up are right here also to plague us.. and they are not going to take it by the scruff of its neck and deal with it!!!???:dgi:

Boy, I see why I glad I didn't work for govt for too long!

Lurker
12-18-06, - 06:25 PM
Amongst the private parties and the elaborate functions, the "12" learned gentlemen representing Her Majesties Court will be seething in Bahamian sun, soaking in Bahamian culture and educating themselves in Bahamian protocal.
Truly, the very idea of them being in the Bahamas is a fascinating event which merits whosoever invited the distinguish gentleman. The Bahamas will play host to these gentleman for two weeks. Two weeks of hosting them at the finest hotels, pampering them and assigning them white gloved personal assistants to be their guide, two weeks of ensuring that breakfast, lunch and dinner are provided, moreover ensuring that the availability of an assortment of teas exists with small cucumba sandwiches and scoons; two weeks of providing the most rigid of security, the finest of transportations and the most elaborate of Bahamian entertainment. Two weeks of spending monies that we clearly do not have, monies that we are clearly short of in order to help our citizens who cry out for immediate assistance. Certainly, whenever this pomp and pangentry is over the bill will be in the tens of thousands and what will the Bahamian public have gain/benefit of this...I shall wait and see.


Sorry to disappoint you, but their leader een no gentleman. She is fact a lady -- the Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury . Guess what -- she Black !!!!

http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/images/h_portrait_ba.jpg

So much fer your scoons -- more like peas 'n rice.


The Rt Hon Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury was appointed Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Privy Council on 6 October 2003.

Prior to this Baroness Amos had held the post of Secretary of State for International Development since May 2003. Baroness Amos was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs in June 2001 with responsibility for Africa, the Commonwealth, the Caribbean, Overseas Territories, Consular Issues and FCO Personnel.

Baroness Amos has been the principal spokesperson in the House of Lords on International Development as well as one of the Government's spokespersons in the House of Lords on Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. She was previously a Government Whip in the House of Lords from 1998 to 2001 and also a spokesperson on Social Security, International Development and Women's Issues. She was created a life peer in August 1997.

Valerie Amos was born in Guyana, studied at the Universities of Warwick, Birmingham and East Anglia, and was awarded an Honorary Professorship at Thames Valley University in 1995 in recognition of her work on equality and social justice. She has also received honorary Doctorates from the Universities of Warwick, Manchester and Staffordshire.

After working in Equal Opportunities, Training and Management Services in local government in the London boroughs of Lambeth, Camden and Hackney, she became Chief Executive of the Equal Opportunities Commission 1989-94. In 1995 Valerie Amos co-founded Amos Fraser Bernard and was an adviser to the South African Government on public service reform, human rights and employment equity.

In the House of Lords, she was a co-opted member of the Select Committee on European Communities Sub-Committee F (Social Affairs, Education and Home Affairs) 1997-98.

Valerie Amos has also been Deputy Chair of the Runnymede Trust 1990-98, a Trustee of the Institute of Public Policy Research, a non-executive Director of the University College London Hospitals Trust, a Trustee of Voluntary Services Overseas (VSO), Chair of the Afiya Trust, a director of Hampstead Theatre and Chair of the Board of Governors of the Royal College of Nursing Institute.

de redhead
12-18-06, - 08:19 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but their leader een no gentleman. She is fact a lady -- the Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury . Guess what -- she Black !!!!

http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/images/h_portrait_ba.jpg

So much fer your scoons -- more like peas 'n rice.


The Rt Hon Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury was appointed Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Privy Council on 6 October 2003.

Prior to this Baroness Amos had held the post of Secretary of State for International Development since May 2003. Baroness Amos was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs in June 2001 with responsibility for Africa, the Commonwealth, the Caribbean, Overseas Territories, Consular Issues and FCO Personnel.

Baroness Amos has been the principal spokesperson in the House of Lords on International Development as well as one of the Government's spokespersons in the House of Lords on Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. She was previously a Government Whip in the House of Lords from 1998 to 2001 and also a spokesperson on Social Security, International Development and Women's Issues. She was created a life peer in August 1997.

Valerie Amos was born in Guyana, studied at the Universities of Warwick, Birmingham and East Anglia, and was awarded an Honorary Professorship at Thames Valley University in 1995 in recognition of her work on equality and social justice. She has also received honorary Doctorates from the Universities of Warwick, Manchester and Staffordshire.

After working in Equal Opportunities, Training and Management Services in local government in the London boroughs of Lambeth, Camden and Hackney, she became Chief Executive of the Equal Opportunities Commission 1989-94. In 1995 Valerie Amos co-founded Amos Fraser Bernard and was an adviser to the South African Government on public service reform, human rights and employment equity.

In the House of Lords, she was a co-opted member of the Select Committee on European Communities Sub-Committee F (Social Affairs, Education and Home Affairs) 1997-98.

Valerie Amos has also been Deputy Chair of the Runnymede Trust 1990-98, a Trustee of the Institute of Public Policy Research, a non-executive Director of the University College London Hospitals Trust, a Trustee of Voluntary Services Overseas (VSO), Chair of the Afiya Trust, a director of Hampstead Theatre and Chair of the Board of Governors of the Royal College of Nursing Institute.



I saw that comment about the ""12" learned gentlemen" too but chose not to mention the fact that there were only 5 learned "gentlemen", the leader of them being a woman. I never knew that said woman was black though.

Rory
12-18-06, - 08:26 PM
I saw that comment about the ""12" learned gentlemen" too but chose not to mention the fact that there were only 5 learned "gentlemen", the leader of them being a woman. I never knew that said woman was black though.

LOL .. learned, gentlemen, said woman ... ahh the queens english :D

de redhead
12-18-06, - 08:30 PM
LOL .. learned, gentlemen, said woman ... ahh the queens english :D


I was just quoting what an earlier poster had posted about "learned gentlemen". As for "said woman", that was the best description I could think of.

canewry
12-19-06, - 07:12 AM
I was just quoting what an earlier poster had posted about "learned gentlemen". As for "said woman", that was the best description I could think of.

lol...perhaps learned lady?

bahamianpride
12-19-06, - 12:01 PM
And one of the things I thought they were going to do was resolve the situation with judge John Lyons.
I mean they are right here and the messy things the judge brought up are right here also to plague us.. and they are not going to take it by the scruff of its neck and deal with it!!!???:dgi:
Boy, I see why I glad I didn't work for govt for too long!



the privy council is here to hear cases in the court of appeal...
because our judiciary is no longer independent - without proper regular salary reviews by and independent commission appointed by the gg

the privy council cannot force the government to carry out the proper procedure...it doesn't work that way...

but they are here to ensure that bahamians citizens have reasonable access to the court of appeals...
ALL BAHAMIANS, RESIDENTS, DETAINEES, PRISONERS AND VISITORS deserve equitable, fair, expeditious access to the judiciary and justice...
they shouldn't have to wait for bahamian politicians to sort their bull**** out...

but don't blame the government alone...
blame the opposition or lack thereof and blame the bar council...
at least six months befoe the review was required the bar council should have given the government notice that the exercise was due and the necessary committee selection should begin...
now lawyers can take advantage of this situation by claiming their clients cannot receive a fair trial in a judiciary that is not independent...

bahamianpride
12-19-06, - 12:04 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but their leader een no gentleman. She is fact a lady -- the Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury . Guess what -- she Black !!!!

http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/images/h_portrait_ba.jpg

So much fer your scoons -- more like peas 'n rice.


The Rt Hon Baroness Valerie Amos of Brondesbury was appointed Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Privy Council on 6 October 2003.

Prior to this Baroness Amos had held the post of Secretary of State for International Development since May 2003. Baroness Amos was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs in June 2001 with responsibility for Africa, the Commonwealth, the Caribbean, Overseas Territories, Consular Issues and FCO Personnel.

Baroness Amos has been the principal spokesperson in the House of Lords on International Development as well as one of the Government's spokespersons in the House of Lords on Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. She was previously a Government Whip in the House of Lords from 1998 to 2001 and also a spokesperson on Social Security, International Development and Women's Issues. She was created a life peer in August 1997.

Valerie Amos was born in Guyana, studied at the Universities of Warwick, Birmingham and East Anglia, and was awarded an Honorary Professorship at Thames Valley University in 1995 in recognition of her work on equality and social justice. She has also received honorary Doctorates from the Universities of Warwick, Manchester and Staffordshire.

After working in Equal Opportunities, Training and Management Services in local government in the London boroughs of Lambeth, Camden and Hackney, she became Chief Executive of the Equal Opportunities Commission 1989-94. In 1995 Valerie Amos co-founded Amos Fraser Bernard and was an adviser to the South African Government on public service reform, human rights and employment equity.

In the House of Lords, she was a co-opted member of the Select Committee on European Communities Sub-Committee F (Social Affairs, Education and Home Affairs) 1997-98.

Valerie Amos has also been Deputy Chair of the Runnymede Trust 1990-98, a Trustee of the Institute of Public Policy Research, a non-executive Director of the University College London Hospitals Trust, a Trustee of Voluntary Services Overseas (VSO), Chair of the Afiya Trust, a director of Hampstead Theatre and Chair of the Board of Governors of the Royal College of Nursing Institute.


have any of the local media made mention of the fact that the head of the privy council is a black woman...i saw one photo of a white man...
that fact alone makes this a momentous occasion for the Bahamas and all women in the african diaspora...

oh the irony...