just wondering if anyone knows anything about the bahamian law on this matter or not.

in the U.S while a mother can abort her fetus at anytime without anyone permission, once born if she chooses to give it up for adoption the biological father can choose to stop it.

"In 1996, Baby M was relinquished by her mother and placed with Darrell and Cindy Matthews. Alphonso Andrews, the baby's father, never signed any consent forms and contested the placement. A Pennsylvania State Supreme Court ruling sent a message to adoption agencies and attorneys about failure to get consent from both birth parents. Genesis of Pittsburgh, Inc. failed to get Andrews' approval for the placement and, as a result, custody of Baby M is being decided four years - instead of a matter of days or weeks - after placement, a bittersweet victory for Andrews and a devastating one for the Matthews."

does anyone know if the Bahamas has a law like this?
thanks,

No. In fact, this is a reason why if we do not already have it, we should give equal rights to the father.

When we do this, we can scale back the amount of abortions.

Fathers have rights too.

No. In fact, this is a reason why if we do not already have it, we should give equal rights to the father.
When we do this, we can scale back the amount of abortions.
Fathers have rights too.


abortion is illegal here unless the pregnancy or bith threatens the life of the child, and even then the law requires the father's consent...

father's have rights but doesn't a woman have the right to decide if she should live or risk dying during childbirth?

abortion is illegal here unless the pregnancy or bith threatens the life of the child, and even then the law requires the father's consent...
father's have rights but doesn't a woman have the right to decide if she should live or risk dying during childbirth?


US.
If there is no law governing it here, then how does it require a fathers consent?
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Life and death issues are not in the discussion. We are talking about whole-sale abortion.

US.
If there is no law governing it here, then how does it require a fathers consent?
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Life and death issues are not in the discussion. We are talking about whole-sale abortion.

stop being foolish...if you can....

abortion is illegal here

the issue of father's consent only arises
if the procedure may be needed to save the life of the mother....or if the pregnancy is life-threatening.....

stop being foolish...if you can....
abortion is illegal here
the issue of father's consent only arises
if the procedure may be needed to save the life of the mother....or if the pregnancy is life-threatening.....

sorry yk2bad...my BIGGEST APOLOGIES FOR CALLING YOU FOOLISH...i will say who ever vex you dis morning..let me know i'll burst em for ya...

stop being foolish...if you can....
abortion is illegal here
the issue of father's consent only arises
if the procedure may be needed to save the life of the mother....or if the pregnancy is life-threatening.....


We know abortion is illegal here. But, how can you do it, only if a fathers consent is given if it is illegal.
That is all I asked....you answered.

I am not well versed on abortion, just that what you said did not make quite clear sense to me.

We know abortion is illegal here. But, how can you do it, only if a fathers consent is given if it is illegal.
That is all I asked....you answered.
I am not well versed on abortion, just that what you said did not make quite clear sense to me.

the procedure of terminating a pregnancy is not illegal if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother...or possibly if the child's life will be 'less than normal' or will be born with a painful or degenerative disease....

in terms of adoption...father's have rights, a father who is legally recognized as the father can contest an adoption....once they are the father of record their consent is mandatory...

Abortion in the Bahamas is illegal and by law fathers are not owners of children, unless he portitions the court. The court must make an in-the-best-interest-of-the-child decision, witht he blessing of social services department for a father to be granted custody...which the court can recind at a later date...if it deems the mother fit again!!!

However, mothers are considered automatic owners of children and by law must be given custody of the child unless the court say she can't have it!

This has been common practice for ever! In fact, the furor about the new law proposed by social services is that it failed to grant fathers that automatic right to be considered as co-oweners of children and thus entitled to automatic custody also!

This is the whole purpose of Clever Duncombe's crusade all these years...men in the Bahmas have no ownership of children! Yet, they are frequently made to support children that they don't own by law!! Hell, the court can't even make women take DNA tests...there is no previsions under the law!!!! Yet, if a woman says a man is the father of her child...the court has powers to order him to pay costs!!!!

I think it's about time that all Bahamian men band together and send the messege that "no ownership right of children by law...then let the damn law take care of them"!!! :cutie: :cutie:

But, of cos, there are many Bahamain fathers who won't be caught dead not taking care of their children! They are not as far and few in between...if feminists like SDP and MG care to look and stop beating all of our Bahamian brothers with the stick they gat fer them past "dutty" men they had!!!



Fair minded Bahamian women are not for such bull sh!t!

Abortion in the Bahamas is illegal and by law fathers are not owners of children, unless he portitions the court. The court must make an in-the-best-interest-of-the-child decision, witht he blessing of social services department for a father to be granted custody...which the court can recind at a later date...if it deems the mother fit again!!!
However, mothers are considered automatic owners of children and by law must be given custody of the child unless the court say she can't have it!
This has been common practice for ever! In fact, the furor about the new law proposed by social services is that it failed to grant fathers that automatic right to be considered as co-oweners of children and thus entitled to automatic custody also!
This is the whole purpose of Clever Duncombe's crusade all these years...men in the Bahmas have no ownership of children! Yet, they are frequently made to support children that they don't own by law!! Hell, the court can't even make the women take DNA tests...there is no previsions under the law!!!! Yet, if a woman says a man is the father of her child...the court has powers to order him to pay costs!!!!
I think it's about time that all Bahamian men band together and send the messege that "no ownership right of children by law...then let the law take care of them"!!! :cutie: :cutie:
Fair minded Bahamian women are not for such bull sh!t!

we are not, you are right....
but the courts don't force men to assume ownership...
a man can protest a women's claim...the courts then have to find proof..i.e dna....
but if a man acts like he's the father or acts like he thinks he's the father...then the court may compel him to 'continue' his assumed obligations...

but essentially i'm with you...
the new act was to bring the law in order with new policy...gender policy...fathers are caregivers also...fathers are parents also fathers 'own' their children also...
i support duncombe...i support any policy that recognizes that women and men don't live in isolation of one another...
but i don't support blaming women OR BLAMING MEN for the problem...
this is a complex socio-cultural issue...
please continue...i want to talk more but running out of time...
men love their children just as much as women....i don't think men want to abandoon their children or want to seem like they have no love for them...we have to help men and women find ways to support each other and their children through divorce and separation...it takes a village to raise a child to sustain a family to sustain a community/....

As ashamed as I am to say it,this would not be such a serious problem among Bahamians if Bahamian men had a stronger paternal instinct.Why is it that we black men,in general, do not seem to have the same urgent need to be with our woman and children,as other races do?It is a global problem among black folks,especially in da States.How can we be so superior in sports,music or dancing and be such pathetic fathers? All I can say is thank God that NO WOMAN,loves her children more than a BLACK WOMAN does!:angel:

actually i am pro-life in most circumstances, but has anyone ever heard of a mother trying to have her child adopted and the biological father objecting and stopping it?

I hate to agree with licks2 on anything....but I have to here.
I would not like to agree with bahamianpride, because she sound like she does like ackin fool...but, she is right to in this rergard, that fathers need to have protection for an fairness for their children.
When women, go to the court for child support, there is no question.
A man needs the same right, because, without that man or sperm donor at the very least, there would be no children.

To think that we would stop a man, from owning up his responsibility if he wanted to, is outrageous. In this day and age, when men don't want to have anything to do with a bastard child, we put in laws to make sure that they have no part even if they wanted to.

Sometimes, our leaders get some things bass-ackward.

Nah, fa yall two bird to say yall "fair-minded" is another topic, for another time.
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As ashamed as I am to say it,this would not be such a serious problem among Bahamians if Bahamian men had a stronger paternal instinct.Why is it that we black men,in general, do not seem to have the same urgent need to be with our woman and children,as other races do?It is a global problem among black folks,especially in da States.How can we be so superior in sports,music or dancing and be such pathetic fathers? All I can say is thank God that NO WOMAN,loves her children more than a BLACK WOMAN does!:angel:

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this slave thing ain't too long pass...
black people were 'trained' into this behaviour...men used as farm studs...the strongest men used for 'breeding'...families separated...for trade and for the purpose of deterring rebellion...
monogamy and the nuclear family were not encouraged by the slave system.....

i think deep down inside every black man wants 'to be with is children'
why should anyone subject themselves to a torturous relationship...just to see their biological children...the 'gender' dynamics or relationship dynamics in this country are a mess...
interpersonal relationship skills are severely lacking in this country, in particular....people forget that the child(ren) has nothing to do with their parents' personal problems....

the initial law was poorly written....
it didn't address the real issues involved..

why don't we have MANDATORY paternity testing at birth before the baby leaves the hospital...it requires a shift in 'cultural' consciousness...

but ultimately it protects the child....
and doesn't protect the mother or the father at the disadvantage of the child...

And I am asking all of you ladies, does that sound right? I am with licks2 110% with her view point! Nice to see that some of the ladies still have a :heartbeat !