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canewry 01-03-07, - 08:20 AM I read with interest the AG's response regarding the arrest of the Bahamian baggage handlers in the United States. I found her response entertaining to say the least but I was more alarmed by what it alluded to. The arrest of the 5 allege drug smugglers who were operating from within the Bahamas blatantly suggests that the US officials have absolutely NO CONFIDENCE in Bahamian police officers. Now that is alarming! Perhaps the Commissioner of Police needs to resign or at least reorganize his DEU unit. Which incompetent idiot that the US does not trust works within its walls? Clearly they are incapable of performing and carrying out the simplest of duties. The Bahamian people needs answers to questions. And one of such questions should be, "Do our police force agents have the know how to carry out such an arrest?"
de redhead 01-03-07, - 09:38 AM I read with interest the AG's response regarding the arrest of the Bahamian baggage handlers in the United States. I found her response entertaining to say the least but I was more alarmed by what it alluded to. The arrest of the 5 allege drug smugglers who were operating from within the Bahamas blatantly suggests that the US officials have absolutely NO CONFIDENCE in Bahamian police officers. Now that is alarming! Perhaps the Commissioner of Police needs to resign or at least reorganize his DEU unit. Which incompetent idiot that the US does not trust works within its walls? Clearly they are incapable of performing and carrying out the simplest of duties. The Bahamian people needs answers to questions. And one of such questions should be, "Do our police force agents have the know how to carry out such an arrest?"
Who arrested the other two baggage handlers after they were tipped off that the initial five had been arrested? Must have been The Yanks. :gi:
Ting-um 01-03-07, - 09:49 AM I don't think it has to do with know-how. I think it has to do with willingness. To say that the Bahamian Police force is corrupt would be more than stating the obvious.
watsayu 01-03-07, - 09:55 AM I don't think it has to do with know-how. I think it has to do with willingness. To say that the Bahamian Police force would be more than stating the obvious.
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Ting-um 01-03-07, - 10:19 AM Typing too fast...I forgot the word "Corrupt".
I dont think it is because of the Cops, but moreso the Legal System here, which basically is a joke.
de redhead 01-03-07, - 10:40 AM I don't think it has to do with know-how. I think it has to do with willingness. To say that the Bahamian Police force is corrupt would be more than stating the obvious.
Actually to say that The RBPF is corrupt is foolishness. There are corrupt members of The RBPF but, The RBPF is not corrupt. To say that The RBPF reflects the community from which its members are drawn is stating the obvious. Just that there are corrupt persons in the community there are corrupt persons in The RBPF. Just as only a small minority amongst the larger community are corrupt, only a small minority amongst The RBPF are corrupt.
de redhead 01-03-07, - 10:44 AM I dont think it is because of the Cops, but moreso the Legal System here, which basically is a joke.
Our legal system is also not corrupt, nor a joke. Where were Samuel Knowles and Dwight Major convicted?
Our legal system is also not corrupt, nor a joke. Where were Samuel Knowles and Dwight Major convicted?
Our Courts are Kangaroo courts man, where you been ... its a joke .. maybe not the system itself, but the way criminals are prosecuted .. 17 months in jail for attempted murder and grand theft auto .. its a joke, and its sad.
de redhead 01-03-07, - 10:56 AM Our Courts are Kangaroo courts man, where you been ... its a joke .. maybe not the system itself, but the way criminals are prosecuted .. 17 months in jail for attempted murder and grand theft auto .. its a joke, and its sad.
That is not the fault of the courts. That is the fault of legislation and or The AG's (Prosecutor's) Office.
That is not the fault of the courts. That is the fault of legislation and or The AG's (Prosecutor's) Office.
To us lay people that arent connected to a political party or government office, all of that is the courts and legal system.
Ting-um 01-03-07, - 11:41 AM Redhead:
Falling on deaf ears my friend, deaf ears. You can't love something so much that you blind yourself to the truth. I'm not saying it to be mean-spirited, coldhearted or rude. I'm saying because its the truth. There are murderers that walk the streets of the Bahamas every day. Even with people that witnessed them in the act. These are criminals that have millions stashed in offshore accounts to pay off highpriced attorneys or corrupt judges. These guys walk the street on a daily basis selling peanuts for weed money. These are friends and family members, scores of them. Not just on the crime side of the system but also on the punishment and enforcement side of the system. Selling driver's licenses and police records to the criminals that can't travel or get a job. I would love to convince myself as you have that there are only a handful of corrupt people in the police force and justice system. But reality is too much to fight againt.
Dudley 01-03-07, - 11:55 AM I dont think it is because of the Cops, but moreso the Legal System here, which basically is a joke.
Not to re-direct this thread, but this is part of the 'people in glass houses' syndrome. The US can say what it likes, but has anyone forgot the incident where a man had a toilet plunger rammed into him in New York by a bunch of cops?
Does anyone remember the brutal beating of Rodney King-even though a bunch of idiots found the Los Angeles cops not guilty.
In the UK, there has been a 15% increase in complaints about the police-according to the article, 88% were found to be untrue-but obviously 12% were found to be substantiated,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6175611.stm
What I'm saying is that in ANY society, and ANY sub-set of a society, you are going to get a 'rogue fringe'. Obviously, the police have their 'bad apples'. These are the people that get the bad name for the force. Any force-anywhere.
Just my opinion, but I'll take incompetence over maliciously corrupt any day.
My first post of 2007....so......Happy New Year to everyone!:angel:
Ting-um 01-03-07, - 12:15 PM So you're saying it takes a crook to know a crook??
de redhead 01-03-07, - 12:51 PM Redhead:
Falling on deaf ears my friend, deaf ears. You can't love something so much that you blind yourself to the truth. I'm not saying it to be mean-spirited, coldhearted or rude. I'm saying because its the truth. There are murderers that walk the streets of the Bahamas every day. Even with people that witnessed them in the act. These are criminals that have millions stashed in offshore accounts to pay off highpriced attorneys or corrupt judges. These guys walk the street on a daily basis selling peanuts for weed money. These are friends and family members, scores of them. Not just on the crime side of the system but also on the punishment and enforcement side of the system. Selling driver's licenses and police records to the criminals that can't travel or get a job. I would love to convince myself as you have that there are only a handful of corrupt people in the police force and justice system. But reality is too much to fight againt.
You tell me that my comments are falling on deaf ears and then tell me that I am blinding myself to the truth.:gi:
The fact that there are criminals walking the streets of The Bahamas simply cannot be true. How can criminals go free in any jurisdiction. :gi:
As for criminals paying off high priced attorneys, how foolish of them. They should let that money sit in the offshore accounts collecting interest while they sit in Fox Hill. They should sit in Fox Hill with the prospect of being sodomized or even killed for however long your time is and when they come out they will have more money in the bank (if they live long enough to get out).
Then you talk about persons walking the streets even when a witness is available. I have seen video tapes of people being beaten by US police officers who were subsequently acquitted. And while US law enforcers are being acquitted in the face of indisputable electronic evidence, their President is bullying Congress into allowing them to surveil their own citizens almost unfettered.
Don't come with these irrelevant, general examples of corruption. The RBPF contains bad apples just like every police force in the world. Some day y'all will learn not to confuse my patriotism with politics, and some day y'all will also learn to engage in dissent or opposition to Government without being unpatriotic.
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