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FACTS ONLY
01-12-07, - 09:32 AM
A few weeks ago the police reported that they had caught a man sitting in his car with a shotgun, bullets and a ski mask. They believed that they caught him before he could commit a crime. He was taken into custody and arrested and was expected to be charged shortly afterward.

Lo and behold, a man went to the newspaper the other day, told them he was the person the police had stopped and he wanted to give his side of the story.

He was in the Bain Town area to take some bowls and plates back to his mothers house when he saw the patrol car approaching. They stopped him. He pulled over. He had his licenced shot gun in the car as he claimed he had just been hunting so he felt he had nothing to hide. In addition the stocking cap that belongs to his wife who puts her make up on in the car while he drives her to work was also in the car, but he didn't remember it.

After the cops shoned their flashlights in his face for a few moments he tried to explain. The cops refused to listen and locked him up overnight.The next day they let him out without even saying sorry.

He told the newspaper that he didn't want to cause a problem, he just wanted to clear his name.

No word from the police yet as it relates to this story.

Why can't our police ever admit a mistake??

When I first heard that the police caught this guy with his 'getting ready to commit a crime gear' I was thinking 'good job, well done', but to not come back and admit a mistake gives the immpression that the man has been charged.

Alien
01-12-07, - 09:40 AM
Better safe than sorry. I am glad they stopped him first and asked questions later.
No matter how innocent it was, a man travelling with a gun and a ski-mask is a man travelling with a gun and ski-mask.

This is not seirous, but quite a funny story.

The thing is, what was he doing for the police to stop him fully loaded like that?

canewry
01-12-07, - 10:24 AM
A few weeks ago the police reported that they had caught a man sitting in his car with a shotgun, bullets and a ski mask. They believed that they caught him before he could commit a crime. He was taken into custody and arrested and was expected to be charged shortly afterward.
Lo and behold, a man went to the newspaper the other day, told them he was the person the police had stopped and he wanted to give his side of the story.
He was in the Bain Town area to take some bowls and plates back to his mothers house when he saw the patrol car approaching. They stopped him. He pulled over. He had his licenced shot gun in the car as he claimed he had just been hunting so he felt he had nothing to hide. In addition the stocking cap that belongs to his wife who puts her make up on in the car while he drives her to work was also in the car, but he didn't remember it.
After the cops shoned their flashlights in his face for a few moments he tried to explain. The cops refused to listen and locked him up overnight.The next day they let him out without even saying sorry.
He told the newspaper that he didn't want to cause a problem, he just wanted to clear his name.
No word from the police yet as it relates to this story.
Why can't our police ever admit a mistake??
When I first heard that the police caught this guy with his 'getting ready to commit a crime gear' I was thinking 'good job, well done', but to not come back and admit a mistake gives the immpression that the man has been charged.

There was no mistake....
the man was detained until it was proven that he was legitimate...
however, if the man had 5 to 6 bacca doves in his back seat and then told the police he was hunting, perhaps his story would have been more believable

bahamianpride
01-12-07, - 10:50 AM
There was no mistake....
the man was detained until it was proven that he was legitimate...
however, if the man had 5 to 6 bacca doves in his back seat and then told the police he was hunting, perhaps his story would have been more believable

has the media published a story on the eastern rd shootout...yesterday the olice said that it happened at seagrapes plaza but eastern rd residents know otherwise....
ANY INFO YET:
or the police still investigating.....

AnarchyIsOrder
01-12-07, - 11:29 AM
yeah you can't blame the police for stopping him or being suspicious but since the shotgun was licensed, i don't see a reason for them to lick him up although i can understand it.
Still, they should at least come out and admit a mistake was made.

Rizzo
01-12-07, - 12:03 PM
I don't actually think they made a mistake. They did the right thing, once they did not abuse him while in custody. If it wasn't actually a ski mask, but rather a stocking cap, this is the only thing the police made a mistake in reporting.

Thing is, even if it was a licensed shotgun, and his wife's stocking cap, he still could have been waiting to attempt a robbery, couldn't he? Also, the police reported he was sitting in his car, but he says he was driving and was pulled over. If so, he didn't state the police's reason for pulling him over in the first place. Which leads me to believe that he was actually sitting in the stationary car.

Bottom line, he wasn't mistreated, and the police carried out their due diligence to ensure the man wasn't a threat, before they released him. I say good job.

FACTS ONLY
01-12-07, - 12:07 PM
Hey, listen here, I am a law abiding citizen, I have absolutely NO problem with the police locking the man up and asking questions later. As a matter of fact I like to see road blocks and wish they would do more.

But........How could they issue a crime report to the public from one location while letting the man go home from another location? The head don't know what the tail doing. Yes, it was a good report to give to us but some one was wayyyyyyy to hasty. I am quite sure the police release suspects on a daily basis.

The mistake wasn't locking the man up. The mistake was running their mouth too fast. When Walter Evans, the police spokesman was saying it, he looked like he was ready to yuck off his tunic and beat his chest like TARZAN. To say the man was CAUGHT and WILL BE CHARGED LATER IN THE WEEK was a clasic example of them wanting to show us they are doning their job which should be done everyday.



While many people heard the crime report that day, not many know the man is scot free and trying to clear his name.

Alien
01-12-07, - 02:01 PM
Hey, listen here, I am a law abiding citizen, I have absolutely NO problem with the police locking the man up and asking questions later. As a matter of fact I like to see road blocks and wish they would do more.
But........How could they issue a crime report to the public from one location while letting the man go home from another location? The head don't know what the tail doing. Yes, it was a good report to give to us but some one was wayyyyyyy to hasty. I am quite sure the police release suspects on a daily basis.
The mistake wasn't locking the man up. The mistake was running their mouth too fast. When Walter Evans, the police spokesman was saying it, he looked like he was ready to yuck off his tunic and beat his chest like TARZAN. To say the man was CAUGHT and WILL BE CHARGED LATER IN THE WEEK was a clasic example of them wanting to show us they are doning their job which should be done everyday.
While many people heard the crime report that day, not many know the man is scot free and trying to clear his name.


I think you are confusing crime statistics and crime reporting.
Just because the police reports something, does not mean it makes the final crime statistics.

Now on the issue of Walter Evans, making quick statements. This happens all the time, we can not account for a hasty police assumption. But, this can be corrected with a sorry and a re-print or whatever they do, when they retract a statement.

So FACTS_ONLY....was the person stopped you???
:voodoo:

Rory
01-12-07, - 02:09 PM
shotgun, bullets, and a stocking cap .. with or without a stocking cap, the gun maybe licensed for hunting, but not to carry in the car. If it was in the car, it would have had to be in a gun safe/lock.

CG
01-12-07, - 03:57 PM
shotgun, bullets, and a stocking cap .. with or without a stocking cap, the gun maybe licensed for hunting, but not to carry in the car. If it was in the car, it would have had to be in a gun safe/lock.

The law requires that the gun be in the trunk of the car. Unloaded, and in a gun bag. One should always carry ones licence too. If you don't have a licence with you it is only wise that they detain you until they can find out for sure you have one.

I used to hunt out West. I was stoped by the police on a few occasions, but nothing happened and I was let go. Once they even tried their hand at shoot a bird themselves with my gun - they missed! But we had some fun at it. Today, I dont know where one can hunt legally in Nassau.

Rizzo
01-12-07, - 05:22 PM
The law requires that the gun be in the trunk of the car. Unloaded, and in a gun bag. One should always carry ones licence too. If you don't have a licence with you it is only wise that they detain you until they can find out for sure you have one.
I used to hunt out West. I was stoped by the police on a few occasions, but nothing happened and I was let go. Once they even tried their hand at shoot a bird themselves with my gun - they missed! But we had some fun at it. Today, I dont know where one can hunt legally in Nassau.


There aren't many locations left in Nassau actually. Most people frequent the Cowpen Road areas. But prime hunting is in Andros.

CG
01-12-07, - 05:32 PM
There aren't many locations left in Nassau actually. Most people frequent the Cowpen Road areas. But prime hunting is in Andros.

Cowpen is mostly Ringneck doves! The rats of the bird world.

We used to shoot on the run way at the Congo Town Airport! Can't see that happening now! Think of those tourists landing with hundreds of guys in Camo' and guns lining the runway!!!:) lol

de redhead
01-12-07, - 05:36 PM
Cowpen is mostly Ringneck doves! The rats of the bird world.
We used to shoot on the run way at the Congo Town Airport! Can't see that happening now! Think of those tourists landing with hundreds of guys in Camo' and guns lining the runway!!!:) lol


Wild Hogs down in Central Andros, that's hunting.

CG
01-12-07, - 05:37 PM
Wild Hogs down in Central Andros, that's hunting.

So it is! So it is! Good hunting

Rizzo
01-12-07, - 05:48 PM
Wild Hogs down in Central Andros, that's hunting.


Yip that's exactly what I said. I'm planning on making a trip there/Cat Island this year around Easter.