Illiteracy is a world wide problem. We have to talk about it, because some countries face the same problem. We can learn from the experiences, to make our situation better.
Poor little lads, they could not even read a simple sentence when I showed it to them. It was like, how can you be in England and not be able to read.


LOL .. where were you? And how old were they? Were they even English? (not Paki). I lived in England as you know, and I never saw that, but I realize it does occur on a very small level, such as some of the small ghettos up north and in the Immigrant Communities. They also have special classes in those cases for the kids, I wonder if they have that here?

Still, telling me what the sign says but telling me something incorrect ..
thats what really got me .. its like they think they can read but dont know they cant ..

LOL .. where were you? And how old were they? Were they even English? (not Paki). I lived in England as you know, and I never saw that, but I realize it does occur on a very small level, such as some of the small ghettos up north and in the Immigrant Communities. They also have special classes in those cases for the kids, I wonder if they have that here?

Still, telling me what the sign says but telling me something incorrect ..
thats what really got me .. its like they think they can read but dont know they cant ..


Rory. Some white people can't read either. Just in case you did not know. And do not call them Paki, it is as derogatory as hyshin. In addition, literacy problems do have to do with disabilities and economic problems. Disability can strike anyone, and economic should be valued compared to who and what it is they are comparing.

I knew you were hinting a bit of racism and degredation of the black man when you posted this anyways. Racist and Bahamian hating. You just want to bring it to the attention, that you met some "folks" in the Bahamas, who can't read.

You should be ashamed of yourself.
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yet again people r blaming the schools.
pple can say what they want about gov schools but i am pretty sure those teachers teach their lessons. they might not do it enthusiastically but they do it.
it is up to parents to make sure their kids go to school and do homeowork and make sure their kids are grasping for information and make sure their kids do not have learning disabilities.
parents are the primary key to a childs educational sucess


For the most part you are right. For the most part. When I was a youngster I moved from a Private School to a Government School. Most of the teachers were at least as dedicated and competent as in The Private School but there were a few exceptions.

I had a Bookkeeping and Accounts teacher that I saw less than 10 times during an entire school year. We had that class 3 times a week. We had to teach ourselves and help each other out.

I had a Biology teacher that would ridicule and embarass students when they were either wrong or unsure of themselves. (he threw me out of his class because I made it my mission to show him up every time he made an error)

The thing that made it worse was how serious these kids were. When I was at my former school we used to drink and play dominoes or cards during lunch. There was no studying in that school until a week or two before GCEs or SATs. During lunch these kids at my new school were studying from the second week of school. I brought a beer to school for my cousin and some of them almost had a fit. They threatened to snitch on me if I didn't get rid of it. It wasn't until she said just give me that Kalik, don't worry about them that I relaxed.

What made me really think that those two teachers were doing a disservice was that these kids were really committed and in the top streams at the school. I had to wonder what the teachers in the lower streams were doing if these were supposed to be the best teachers in the system.

Rory. Some white people can't read either. Just in case you did not know. And do not call them Paki, it is as derogatory as hyshin. In addition, literacy problems do have to do with disabilities and economic problems. Disability can strike anyone, and economic should be valued compared to who and what it is they are comparing.
I knew you were hinting a bit of racism and degredation of the black man when you posted this anyways. Racist and Bahamian hating. You just want to bring it to the attention, that you met some "folks" in the Bahamas, who can't read.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
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You gotta be kidding me .. go sit in the corner until you learn how to comprehend English properly because from this reply you don't have a clue what I said.

BTW.. Paki is short for Pakistani, I just didnt want to type the whole darn word out after writing 20,000+ lines of code last night..but really you don't deserve an explanation of that.

Oh yeah, you are now demoted to y2sorry.

To sumarize; We spend to little on education, and for that matter we have not spent it in the right way.
Not only do we have to up spending, but we have to actually fix the system to get us better results.
We have to wait and see if 2006 literacy figures, go up or down. But, my gawd it should. We throw money at it, my gawd it should get better.
The good news is, we spend a considerable least amount compared to Barbados, Jamaica and Cuba, but we are only 2% points off in literacy.
We can do alot better.


In 2005 we spent 17.8% of our budget on education.

In 2005 we spent 17.8% of our budget on education.

yes that's considerable...but your not doing close introspection on the numbers...yes 18% but where is the money going? ... its going to the ministry and salaries of the higher ups...the money isnt trickling down to the students...the ones who need it the most and the teachers to keep them happy and secure in their professions. I read somewhere that MOE only spends 3g's per annum on its students....that's crumbcakes...America spend 10g's...we should throw money at these students and programs to nurture them...as Jonathan Kozol would say... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Kozol)we dont do that...the kids see that...and this is what you have...the schools not being ready to open shouldnever be explained away..that is inexcusable...stink toilets, illiteracy, school lunch programs, taking technology serious, and school busing and in this globalized world is totally unaccceptable given our small numbers. spend the money now so we dont have to worry about spending the money later on overcrowded correctional system.

You gotta be kidding me .. go sit in the corner until you learn how to comprehend English properly because from this reply you don't have a clue what I said.

BTW.. Paki is short for Pakistani, I just didnt want to type the whole darn word out after writing 20,000+ lines of code last night..but really you don't deserve an explanation of that.

Oh yeah, you are now demoted to y2sorry.


LOL...
Friggin racist.

I know what Paki is you azzwhole. It is derogatory to them. If you had any common sense left in you, you would not even use that term if you knew.

Rory you are an azz.
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In 2005 we spent 17.8% of our budget on education.


I knew you would crawl out of the hole of humanity, to plug some PLP talking point.

LOL...
Live the dream buddy. Your boys are lazy fecks.

this makes me wonder what were they doing in their youth while growing up on the island? (with relatively nothing to get into) what went wrong? I think the illiteracy rate is higher than is actually reported. is there a literacy center on the island?


believe it or not, eleuthera public schools test higher than the national average, exactly because we have little to get into, and parents who are pretty proactive when it comes to their children. perhaps we need to question who's giving these tests?!? but something's gone wrong around here, with both black and white citizens suffering the same fate. when i was a kid growing up, we ALL learned to read, and learned from caribbean textbooks. but last i was in an eleuthera classroom, the textbooks were old and decaying and ten years past their u.s. prime. so, not only do we have people growing illiterate, they haven't a clue as to their own history. your tax dollars at work.

LOL...
Friggin racist.
I know what Paki is you azzwhole. It is derogatory to them. If you had any common sense left in you, you would not even use that term if you knew.
Rory you are an azz.
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quit it now. You know you are writing rubbish at this point, dont get my name all twisted up in your issues.

BTW. the word Paki is no different from conchie joe, white boy, cracker. etc .
either way i was juz shortning it .. so believe what you want, quit with the name calling.

yes that's considerable...but your not doing close introspection on the numbers...yes 18% but where is the money going? ... its going to the ministry and salaries of the higher ups...the money isnt trickling down to the students...the ones who need it the most and the teachers to keep them happy and secure in their professions. I read somewhere that MOE only spends 3g's per annum on its students....that's crumbcakes...America spend 10g's...we should throw money at these students and programs to nurture them...as Jonathan Kozol would say... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Kozol)we dont do that...the kids see that...and this is what you have...the schools not being ready to open shouldnever be explained away..that is inexcusable...stink toilets, illiteracy, school lunch programs, taking technology serious, and school busing and in this globalized world is totally unaccceptable given our small numbers. spend the money now so we dont have to worry about spending the money later on overcrowded correctional system.


I guess you didn't read my other post. I know where the responsibility and shortfalls are. I simply stated that as a correction of an erroneous assumption by another poster. If you want my opinion on the situation read the other post where I offered my opinion.

I really don't know ehy some of y'all women will find any reason to row. Once in a while take a break to understand our point before launching into your tirade. Your fiance gat it worse than me.

Poor fella.

I knew you would crawl out of the hole of humanity, to plug some PLP talking point.
LOL...
Live the dream buddy. Your boys are lazy fecks.


Sorry. I was not aware that it was such a crime to simply offer information which corrects the erroneous information posted by another poster (even if that erroneous poster is you). Henceforth please feel free to modify and or delete any post of mine with which you have a problem (Pharoah does it).

I guess you didn't read my other post. I know where the responsibility and shortfalls are. I simply stated that as a correction of an erroneous assumption by another poster. If you want my opinion on the situation read the other post where I offered my opinion.
I really don't know ehy some of y'all women will find any reason to row. Once in a while take a break to understand our point before launching into your tirade. Your fiance gat it worse than me.
Poor fella.

I didnt think I was stirring up a commotion, I thought I was explaining..touche. I just didnt want yo to think that you could get away with saying 17.8% without analyzing exactly what that percentage goes to. nothing ever is that simple.

wrt dude...Im big on clarity so I listen to him and pay attention to him...communication is the only way we'll get ahead.

Could it be that some people havent went to school ever? I remember watching something on cable 12 a year or two ago. The camera crews followed some of the Urban renewal people into one of the inner city communities. On woman had some children there, one of them who were probably old enough to be in grade two or so. I forgot the excuse why she hasnt sent them to school yet. It's possible that in our country, there is still children who are being deprived of education litteraly.
Then there was someone trying to use the atm at the RBC downtown probably over 40. Now the guy in front of me was telling me how he could not read, but I wasn't to sure if he was telling the truth. H e must have been there quite a while because I met him in there and it was 10 minutes before he left someone else use the machine. Then he went back. He said he was trying to pay a bill. I told him you can't do that on the machine, but he still insisted that he could do it.....pressing every button on the machine possible, disregarding the screen. I left him in there for him to finally give up.


Actually, you can pay your credit card bill from the ABM.

Actually, you can pay your credit card bill from the ABM.

:gi: what's the ABM?:eek: