Is homosexuality un-natural? Is homosexuality a bad thing? What is the difference between someone who is gay and a homosexual? Do you have homosexual friends? Should homosexuality be against the law? What do we know about homosexuality?

It is clear that with each passing day there are more homosexuals than before. It appears that homosexuality is the "in thing." Why is homosexuality on the rise? How does homosexuality gel with Darwin's theories on evolution and survival of the fittest?

Does the rise in homosexuality signal impending doom for our societies? Is it right to have homosexuals leading the government? Should homosexuals hold leadership positions? Does it matter?

Hopefully we can use this thread to develop a meaningful discussion on this important societal issue. Let's see.

Sorry guys, I've been MIA fa a while.

Ebo, this is what i have to say about the Gay Issues. Lets take a look at God's Word. Romans 1: 21 -

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their maginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

It speaks for itself.

Destruction is ahead, and we can't really avoid it. God's Word must come to pass.

Until next time.

The purpose of sex is to procreate. Sex is enjoyable to encourage the frequency of sex and increase the chances of procreation. Procreation is essential for the survival and improvement of the species.

Homosexual activities cannot naturally result in procreation. It must be enjoyable if so many people are converting to its practice. With the new technologies, sex is no longer necessary for procreation, and the drive to procreate may be declining because of the overpopulation of the earth. Humans have been so successful at procreating that our success is now a threat to our survival. Is homosexuality a natural response to the declining need for procreation and a genetic arrogance about the certainty of our survival as a species?

There are birds that practice homosexuality. There are dogs which practice homosexuality. I have never seen cats practicing homosexuality but I am sure other creatures do. Why does this happen? There must be a reason relating to advancement and survival of the species.

Interestingly enough, the great empires are reputed to have had high incidences of homosexuality before falling. This may be the storytellers version of things or it may be true.

So many questions, geez.

Is homosexuality un-natural?
Un-natural, if we get into natural and un-natural whose, contexts are we going by? Are we going to go by America's where it is 'natural' to eat beef? Or are we going to go by India's where the cow is a sacred animal? But those are cultural examples, so natural, the concept of marriage is an 'unnatural' one, that we stay together for a lifetime with that one mate. Only a few animals in nature mate for life, and by the divorces rates around the world humans are NOT one of those animals.

Is homosexuality a bad thing?
The concepts of good and bad and right and wrong are all value judgments. That means that over time our society changes what the majority considers acceptable. Not too long ago being black was seen by white people as being a 'wrong' thing and black people were treated as less than human, so as Bahamians (whose majority are black) we should not be judging or trying to discriminate against ANYONE, ok?

What is the difference between someone who is gay and a homosexual?
There is no true difference. Gay is just a term coined to try and take some of the stigma out of the 'sexuality' used in 'homosexuality'. Most people don't go around calling themselves 'heterosexual' they call themselves straight. Which, personally, isn't a term that I'm fond of, as it implies that being gay is 'crooked' or something else less desirable. (Don't worry, I see those eyebrows rising) Let me elaborate, I'm not saying that being gay is desirable. If I had a choice, I'd be with a guy now, that's not a question. I'm saying that by telling people that being gay is wrong, you're basically telling them that THEY are wrong. (And spare me with that love the sinner hate the sin foolishness.) Why make growing up harder than it needs to be?

Do you have homosexual friends?
Yes I do. I guess it doesn't hurt that I'm gay, but friends are friends and I've made gay friends without either of us knowing about the other.

Should homosexuality be against the law?
What does it have to with anyone else? Public acts, no. But, I really don't want to see two heterosexual people getting it on either.

What do we know about homsexuality? (At least spell it right)
What do you want to know?

It is clear that with each passing day there are more homosexuals than before.
That's not true. It's just that more people are coming out and letting others know that they won't take the jokes and name calling anymore. The fact that the public is more aware of gay people doesn't mean that there are any more gay people around.

It appears that homosexuality is the "in thing." Why is homosexuality on the rise?
If it's the "in thing" I'd like to let everyone out there know that I'm available. Hell, if it were that easy... (forgive the sarcasm, but you really couldn't be serious).
If a gay person could 'choose' to be gay, does that mean that you 'chose' to be heterosexual (if it's good for the goose...)? Oh, and PLEASE explain to me why anyone would 'CHOOSE' to be gay ESPECAILLY in The Bahamas? Why would you 'choose' to be the type of person who gets protested when they come to SPEND MONEY in a country that has TOURISM as the number one industry? We're the silly ones. (don't say 'we can't sell ourselves like that, or we are not for sale' because that would get me on to the whole church and gambling situation)

How does homosexuality gel with Darwin's theories on evolution and survival of the fittest?
There are people born everyday with birth defects. We have found ways to make their time on earth easier.
There are people born everyday that are left-handed. Most of all tools made are made for right-handed people. The lefty's adjust to using their right hands for some things or they use tools that are made for them, (oh my goodness, right handed people are making it easy for left handed people to 'be themselves' lol)
People adjust.
Gay people were around from ancient times (and I'm talking about before and during biblical times). If we survived this long, why keep trying to push us down. It's not like we're going around recruiting. And if it WERE that easy... (only joking)

Does the rise in homosexuality signal impending doom for our societies?
Get serious.

Is it right to have homosexuals leading the government?
Don't get me started. In Israel, they have a new Kinesist member who is openly gay and they are now going to pass a ruling that allows his long-term partner to get some of the benefits that spouses of married members get. France and openly gay politician. In Holland (or one European country) they had one, he was killed. In America the only openly gay member (of congress or senate) is Barney Frank. Please note that I could only say the OPENLY gay ones, the ones who don't shout it from the rooftops, but the ones who don't say that they are dating or involved with 'someone'. Let's not get to our own Politicians.
While on the subject of marriage, don't knock that fact that gay people live together and other things of the nature if you're not willing to support the idea of gay marriage. Don't say something should be done in the context of marriage of that's not even an option. But gay marriage is another thread.

Should homosexuals hold leadership positions?
Same as above.
Let me just list:
Alexander the Great
Joan of Arc
Richard the Lionhearted

Does it matter?
No.

Thanks for correcting the spelling of homosexuality.

You have made some very interesting points on the issue of homosexuality. Perhaps you can enlighten us further because some of us are trying to get an understanding of what transpires among homosexuals and what are the driving forces.

What can a woman offer a woman that a man cannot offer a woman? Naturally I am speaking on a physical plane.

What can a man do with a man that he cannot, with tools if necessary, do with a woman? What drives a man to want to be with another man?

There is no push to attack homosexuals in these writings. Much of what is being expressed is being expressed in ignorance. So please do not be offended if the wrong terms are used. Ignorance may cause things to be expressed less sensitively than if there was knowledge.

There is often the presentation of the point that there is no right and wrong. Whenever that is your bottom line defense on an issue, you can assume you are wrong. Anything that goes against the strategic advancement and survival of the species and society is wrong. This does not relate to whether the majority agrees or not. There is absolute right and wrong. Whenver we want to justify totally 'out of order" behaviour we drag up the philosophy about how society changes. Any behaviour that taken to its end will result in the demise or deterioration of our society is wrong.

Marriage relates to the raising of families and the structure of society. Marriage may not be right in every case because people often marry the wrong people or people change and not in complementary ways. Successful marriages also require something that is sorely lacking in society today - discipline! Children generally fare better with two capable and caring parents. Society fares better with structured families.

While there may be other family models which may work, they must be established. Unstructured family situations have resulted in chaotic societies. No rules destabilize societies in fundamental ways.

I believe there is a fundamental difference between being gay and practicing homosexuality. All practitioners of homosexuality are not necessarily gay. My understanding, and you can correct me on this, is that "gay" is a sexual orientation. "Homosexual" is the manifestation of a sexual orientation or the practice of sex with someone of the same sex. This is difficult to express.

In other words all gay people are not homosexual because even though they have a predisposition to have sex with people of the same gender, they may choose not to do so. Also everyone having homosexual sex may not be gay - they may not have a dominant drive for sex with people of the same gender but they still practice same-gender sex.

Why is it that most religions damn homosexuality? Islam condemns homosexual activity with death.

Phazeme,

Your deposition I find interesting....but even more interesting is your silence on the Biblical perspective quoted by Shabez..... It is not my intention to judge you (that's God's job) but I'm very interested in what you think about Shabez' quote.

I know I should be getting to people in the order that I get these responses, but to 'Observer'. Religion is a subject that will cause more controversy that I deem is necessary. I should explain why I say that, there are more religions and beliefs in this world that we can begin to imagine, so for me to go and comment on that piece of Christianity would be useless. It is obvious that it is a Christian piece is that it is taken from the New Testament, only CHRISTIANS believe in the New Testament. What about Sikhs, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims...etc? So we should try and use facts if we will try to find some common ground. There are still questions concerning the translations of the bible in any event. So if anyone still wants to use the Bible in discussions that I am called upon to comment, please learn Aramaic (the language of the bible) and translate it for yourself and then we will discuss. I need to say this because religious scholars have found that many of the translations that we use in English don't capture the essence that the phases intended.

So, Observer, that's my opinion, that all anyone can put here anyway, OPINIONS, I'd like to hear what you think, be honest don't worry, I won't judge you (that's God's job).

What transpires among homosexuals and what are the driving forces.
OMG! You can not be serious, I had to pick myself off of the floor on reading that one! lol. Here the website for the APA, there are some links that may lead you to your desired answers:
http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html

What can a woman offer a woman that a man cannot offer a woman? Naturally I am speaking on a physical plane.

Do you really think being gay is all about sex? Is being straight all about sex? (well, I guess I don't really know you).
To be honest I can't offer heterosexual intercourse to a woman, I would want to either, having some guy jacking away like a sledgehammer while you roll your eyes wondering what's on television or contemplating nuclear physics because that's a hell of a lot more exciting.
Let me say, I had this deeply religious woman, for nothing more than the challenge of it. You should ask her, what she thinks a woman can offer another woman, I forgot to ask, but I vaguely remember her screaming my name.
Forgive me, but why would an (assumingly) heterosexual man want to know what women (and men) do together? All you really need to know is that it doesn't happen in heterosexual sex and I've never heard a gay person complain that they didn't like the sex.

Don't take any of what I'm saying as defensive, or rude, because I've lived enough of my life lieing so I find the need to tell the truth and be blunt whenever I express myself.

I agree that families TEND to work better in structured families. But no one in The Bahamas can claim not to know someone who didn't have an ideal family environment. Grandmothers and mothers often raise children together.

I would love to (and intend to) raise my child in a loving family structure, the only difference from the traditional family is that it will be headed by two women. There will be male influences, but the most obvious thing will be is that We will love our child, it wasn't something that was an accident one night, it will be something that will be totally prepared for and no question that our child is wanted and will be loved. (not to say that staight ppl don't love their children)


Driving force: For me, I want someone to share my life with. Plain and simple.


I believe there is a fundamental difference between being gay and practicing homosexuality. All practitioners of homosexuality are not necessarily gay. My understanding, and you can correct me on this, is that "gay" is a sexual orientation. "Homosexual" is the manifestation of a sexual orientation or the practice of sex with someone of the same sex. This is difficult to express.
It should be difficult to express, what are you trying to say? I see what you WANT to say, so I'll let you try again with that one.

Let me just say, the word "gay" is slang, slang for homosexual.

Why is it that most religions damn homosexuality? Islam condemns homosexual activity with death.
I know I'm not supposed to comment on religion, but I can't help myself on this one, I would appreciate you explaining this one to me. Doesn't the Christian Bible condem adultry to death? Are we still doing that? Because I know I can find a good five people without thinking hard. Are we going to stone a few everyday or have a set day of the week to get rid of a couple at a time? Let's make some examples out of them.

Phazeme.

Firstly marriage is not unatural. God (whom u like to mention but don't really regard) instituted that. And we as christians believe fully in God, in fact our nation is known widely as a christian Nation (do u're research, u'll find it). But the strange thing is the bible is the most commonly known book in this land, and the strangest thing is that our government tends to quote from it, strange huh. When someone writes a novel, or any book at that, it dosen't go straight on the stand it goes trough a process of editing.......but guess what after it is finished it still gives the authur what it was intended to do in the first place. The bible is the Word OF God an God is in there.

You can come and boast that u r a homosexual, go ahead. What u expect us to do, agree with u? The same God that u mention is the same God that said, and i quote again ...... "for even women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful." You only knock the bible because it goes against what u stand for, 100%.

In my opinion backed up by the word of God, homosexual is unnatural, marriage is perfectly natural. God is the ruler of our Nation, of my heart and many more poeple.... so if u can't find someplace where God stated that homosexual is ok, don't tell me what men say, cause their opions really dosen't matter.

And furthur more before u decide to use God's name, know him first.

I'm speaking the truth.........being honest, quote....end quote.

Until next time.................

Some things r just made to kept private, it's a pity some of us hasn't grasp that concept as yet.

Also, the bible did condemned adultery but Jesus came an corrected it, an i quote: "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?...................he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:4-7.

That explains it all.........

Until next time.......

Hi Phazeme:

I admit that I speak from a point of view of ignorance. I am serious though. I really do not understand what two people of the same sex can do for each other that a male and female cannot do for each other. If you are saying that it is impossible to explain to someone who is "straight" then I am condemned to my ignorance.

I am not trying to take a religious perspective on this issue. Religions have proven important in most societies and generally they contain the principles for successful living at various points in societies' histories. Many of the principles in the holy books have scientific bases that relate to the survival and improvement of society. Many relate to the ordered functioning of society. While there may be debate about translations, we cannot wisely disgard the principles in the holy books. We also must appreciate that many excesses were perpetrated in the name of God.

Gay and straight are sexual references, so yes they are about sex. Again if there is more and different information I would surely like to hear about it because with more exchange of information, more discussions, more understanding if not agreement can be achieved.

I am really sorry to hear that you think heterosexual sex is about a man sledgehammering a woman. Does male homosexual sex involve a man sledgehammering another man or have they finessed sex too? Or is it that the male element is the problem with the sexual relations? If what you say is true, there is a whole lot of deception going on in heterosexual sex. If women do not enjoy heterosexual sex, why do they engage in it so often currently and down through the ages?

Grandmothers and mothers raising children together appears a more natural arrangement for childraising to me. When you consider the physical, mental, and emotional situations with women, the time when a woman is physically best suited for having children is also the time when they are worst suited mentally and emotionally for raising children.

In trying to explain the difference between gay and homosexual I mean that some people are not gay but they have sex with other people of the same gender. Perhaps you have a better way of defining this or you know a better term. Again I speak from a plane of ignorance.

I would suggest to all in these conversations that we try to be less judgmental. Only God is right all the time and he is given credit (or blame) for making us. We need to listen to one another. We may not agree but we still need to live in harmony. We may not like each others' lifestyles but we are all part of one big family - the human race, and believe me, we encountered each other for a reason. Let's interact positively so the outcome from the convergence will be enriching for all.

Phazeme, from your response on the religious side I can see this is not a good area for your philosophy. Most religions - all that I know of, condemn homosexuality. So maybe we can leave religion out of it and approach the subject from the human, factual, and scientific points of view.

You claim to vaguely remember that a deeply religious woman that you made love to for the challenge of it was screaming your name. This sounds like the same claim many men make about making love with women. It also sounds like claims some women make about men they make love to so this does not, in my estimation, make the point that I think I am hearing that homosexual sex is superior to heterosexual sex. You may just be a superior lover. You may have the same or greater impact on a man if you made love to a man with similar intensity and focus.

At some point it will be pointed out again that sex is for more than fun. The root purpose of sex is procreation. This is fundamental. Sex in any organism is to ensure the survival of the species. The prime motivation of any species is survival. How does homosexual sex line up with the prime purpose of sex? Or are we at the point in our development where we can abandon our prime responsibility in favour of the here and now?

Sorry about the wait guys.

I like to allow my members to post their views on a topic first before I get involved but when you try to discredit my faith I must answer.

First I will reply to some of Ebo's questions.

Is homosexuality un-natural?Yes.
Even plants know what their role is in life and they do it in order.

Is homosexuality a bad thing?
My teacher always told our class "Being poor is not a disgrace but just a setback".

Do you have homosexual friends? Yes.
And I tell them the same thing I will tell Phazeme.
God doesn't discriminate so why should I.
He hates the act and not the person. Homosexuality is not treated any differently from any other sin.

Should homosexuality be against the law?
Think about the effects of Homosexuality before you ask that question. Every law that God placed in the Bible is for our own protection. Imagine a world with just Homosexuals in it.
Are you finished? Now, if you saw people I recommend checking into Sandalince Rehab because there won’t be anyone on earth.

It is clear that with each passing day there are more homosexuals than before. Well if you read your Bible that should indicate what time we are living in.

Does the rise in homosexuality signal impending doom for our societies?
Yes, and not just ours but the world. God gave us an example in Sodom and Gomorrah and we should be thankful for that because we can now see clearly that the end is near.

How does homosexuality gel with Darwin's theories on evolution and survival of the fittest?
Darwin was a natural man thinking with his natural mind. If you want to know the truth about the creation of this world and the process of life click here:
http://www.creationevidence.org/cemframes.html
This one gets straight to the point:
http://www.creationevidence.org/fun_for_kids/fun_for_kids.html

Should homosexuals hold leadership positions?
Have you ever seen a blind person leading someone with sight?
Or how can the blind lead the blind?
Only the people of the world are lead by the world.
I don't really care who leads this world because I am not of it.
Jesus is my leader.

Continuing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is in regards to the views expressed by Phazeme on the above questions.

Are we going to go by America's where it is 'natural' to eat beef? Or are we going to go by India's where the cow is a sacred animal? But those are cultural examples, so natural, the concept of marriage is an 'unnatural' one, that we stay together for a lifetime with that one mate. Only a few animals in nature mate for life, and by the divorces rates around the world humans are NOT one of those animals.
Human beings are not animals, we were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27) and when you compare our lives to theirs you are lowering your own standard that God Himself gave you.
You won’t find a sheep eating beef or a lion eating fruits and vegetables because it would be un-natural. Same applies to Homosexuality.

Is homosexuality a bad thing? The concepts of good and bad and right and wrong are all value judgments. That means that over time our society changes what the majority considers acceptable.
Gods' law hasn't changed. Every ten commandment that He laid down for us thousands of years ago still stands today, even in countries where it is illegal to own a Bible it is against the law to steal, bare false witness, murder etc. Silly isn't it? The same persons who rejected God for who He is upholds the same commandments that He wrote. If they don’t believe in God tell me where did they get those principles from? Allow me.
They saw the damage it did when these kind of acts where carried out. Have we been so blind not to see the damage that Homosexuality is doing to our society, has done and will do if we uphold it as acceptable?

Oh, and PLEASE explain to me why anyone would 'CHOOSE' to be gay ESPECAILLY in The Bahamas? Why would you 'choose' to be the type of person who gets protested when they come to SPEND MONEY in a country that has TOURISM as the number one industry?
I feel that it is wrong also for anyone (not just Homosexuals) to be treated differently than someone else because "God shows personal favoritism to no man "Galatians 2:6.
If there is anywhere in the world where Homosexuals should come it needs to be a place where allot of Christians are to show them the truth.

There are people born everyday with birth defects. We have found ways to make their time on earth easier.
Are you saying that Homosexuality is a birth defect?
That’s not so. God and scientists agree on that one.
My belief is that it is a spiritual disease called sin. And the only cure is Jesus.

Gay people were around from ancient times (and I'm talking about before and during biblical times).
What? You really haven't taken the time out to read a Bible have you? Only God existed before biblical times. Homosexuality came about like every other bad thing after man sinned against God.

If we survived this long, why keep trying to push us down.
Why do I need to push something down when it has already fallen?

The lefty's adjust to using their right hands for some things or they use tools that are made for them, (oh my goodness, right handed people are making it easy for left handed people to 'be themselves' lol)People adjust.
Adjust to what? A lifestyle that leads nowhere but Hell?
I think not. I, being a Christian isn't making it hard for you to be yourself. God gave you the right to choose which road to take in life and there are only two, one leads to death and the other to life. If God didn't stop you from choosing to be a Homosexual; why should I? I can only direct you in the right way like He did.

Don't say something should be done in the context of marriage of that's not even an option. But gay marriage is another thread.
Gay marriages don't have to be discussed in another thread because I can answer that now.
Ask yourself these questions:
What is a marriage?
Who invented it?
What is its purpose?

Allow me first.

Marriage is a spiritual communion between two individuals of opposite sex, ordained by God for the purpose of bearing children.
Why not two persons of the same sex?
That would kill the purpose of having children and without them we won’t exists. Any so-called priest who marries two persons of the same sex is Antichrist and will be punished by God.

Continuing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

More answers!

there are more religions and beliefs in this world that we can begin to imagine, so for me to go and comment on that piece of Christianity would be useless.

Christianity is more than a religion.
Name one religion in this world that teaches us to love our enemies, pray for those who persecute us and bless those who curse us (Matthew 5:44)? Name one religion who's God gave His only son as a sacrifice for people who mostly hated Him (John 3:16)? Name one religion who's God died for the very same people who killed Him. Don't waste your time looking because there are none besides Christianity.


So we should try and use facts if we will try to find some common ground. There are still questions concerning the translations of the bible in any event. So if anyone still wants to use the Bible in discussions that I am called upon to comment, please learn Aramaic (the language of the bible) and translate it for yourself and then we will discuss. I need to say this because religious scholars have found that many of the translations that we use in English don't capture the essence that the phases intended.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh The old Attack the Authenticity of the Bible move.

This challenge was brought before me by a cult member when I was just a babe in Christ. I didn't know at that time how to defend the substance of my faith which made me feel so week until I decided to make it one of my goals to learn all I can about this very subject.

What I found out is that the Bible does not need anyone to explain it. In fact, we need the Bible to explain us. Without the Bible I wouldn't have known who I was, what I am, where I am, why I am here, how I got here or where I am going. The Bible answers all of life’s most important questions and is the only book in existence that does that.
You need to question yourself and not the word of God.
If I attempt to answer you fully on the topic of Biblical authenticity it will fill this site and the entire internet along with it so I will answer the parts you pointed out to defend your belief.

only CHRISTIANS believe in the New Testament.

Only Muslims believe in the Koran.
To believe in something you have to be that something. If anyone other than Christians believed in the New Testament that would make them a Christian also.

What about Sikhs, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims...etc?

What about them? My Bible tells me that anyone (Good or Bad) who does not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and He died on the cross for our sins will go to Hell.
Who the cap fits let them wear it.

There are still questions concerning the translations of the bible in any event.

What questions and by whom? God answered every question that man can ask right in the Bible. The only people who are still asking questions about the Bible have no intent on finding out the truth. I am only 22 years old, I live in the Bahamas, I have never been to a Theological school, I have never visited Jerusalem and I can see God's words clearly in the Bible.
Ignorance towards the truth is also a sin.

So if anyone still wants to use the Bible in discussions that I am called upon to comment, please learn Aramaic (the language of the bible) and translate it for yourself and then we will discuss.

Aramatic?
Why do I need to learn Aramatic when I speak and read in the English language? Does that mean that everyone who wants to know God has to learn Aramatic? I think not. That is not the nature of God. I didn't have to learn Japanese to drive a Japanese car. If you take an Aramatic, Hebrew, Greek and English translation of the Bible and compare them; they will match perfectly. Believe me, it has already been proved.

Think about this!
If 66 men in 66 different countries at different times each carved out one piece of a puzzle that they never saw completed what are the likelihood of each piece fitting perfectly with the other?
Almost impossible! Not for God because He gave us an example with the Bible. He alone knew the complete picture, how each piece of the puzzle should look and exactly where to place them. He chose each writer according to their nature. Who knows a son better than a loving Father? God knew why He chose Moses to write Genesis and David to write Psalms. I can see now why He chose Paul to write the book of Romans. Who better to testify than a person who is of their own kind and Paul was a Roman. Because of his wisdom I know why God chose Solomon to write the book Proverbs. All of these men though they wrote the Bible were inspired by One God.
David said it best in Psalms 19:7 "The law of the LORD is Perfect, the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple".

Concluding >>>>>>>>>>>>

More questions.

What transpires among homosexuals and what are the driving forces.
The desire to sin against God comes directly from Satan. All through the Bible from beginning to end; Satan has been tempting us to do things that God told us not to do.

What can a woman offer a woman that a man cannot offer a woman?

What can a rich man offer his wife without God in his life? Don’t they; with all their money still live miserable lives and eventually get divorced.
What we look for in any relationship (male or female) is to be loved by the other.
That brings us to the question of what love is?
Allow me to answer first.
"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
It is impossible to love someone without knowing God. What you think to be love is only mere human emotions which can’t fill a pore in your skin let alone fulfill a human need. Without God you will be searching for fulfillment for the rest of your life.

Let me say, I had this deeply religious woman, for nothing more than the challenge of it.

If this is true and this female is a child of God I would get down on my knees right now and beg for forgiveness if I were you. Christ warns us about tempting His children to sin in Matthew 18:6 "But Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the dept of the sea".

Whenever you tempt a child of God to sin you become just like Satan in God’s sight. Let me give you an example of how God treats his children: If I ask my friend to go and steal all of his mother's money to buy cigarettes and he does what I ask, when found out; who do you think the mother would be most angry at? I can tell you from my experience that I would never be invited in my friend’s home again even if her son smoked more cigarettes than I did. But as for the son, after a good beating he would still be at home with no love lost from his mother. Same holds true for God and His children.


Doesn't the Christian Bible condem adultry to death? Are we still doing that? Because I know I can find a good five people without thinking hard. Are we going to stone a few everyday or have a set day of the week to get rid of a couple at a time? Let's make some examples out of them.

I think that Sha`bez answered that perfectly.

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I noticed the amount of research you did on Homosexuals and Homosexuality, past and present. Is this because you are tring to find out why you are the way you are or feel the way you do?

I dont know why you do the things that you do eather. But I know someone who can answer all of your questions and His name is Jesus. Just give Him full control of your mind, body and spirit if you cant control them. He will answer all of your questions, belive me He does.

I will not judge you and me being a Christian does not make me better than you. Doesn't the same Sun shine on all of us?
I am more fortunate however to know the truth about life which God teaches us to share with others and I am doing that now with you.

It was God that guided you here to this website for the purpose of answering your questions. I know that you will find your answers here a I belive that you will be saved because you came here.

Just allow God to speak to you without interruption. Do not focus on sin but on Grace which can only come from Jesus. Only then will you know the truth.

I felt led to give you this: http://www.aldenson.com/mm/show/pdf/25.pdf

Please read it.
And I will pray for you.

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