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cerasee
02-12-07, - 06:47 PM
In October 2007, the Bahamian Cabinet approved an interim marina policy for the Bahamas, which set out rules and procedures for marina approval as well as usage fees. It includes a number of interesting ideas, including recognition that the visual appeal of the Bahamas coastline is a critical element of its attraction. Its appearance should not be altered unless there is clear public consensus that it should be and that significant public benefits would follow from such a change. The proposed marina policy is now open for public comment.

In response to the government’s request for comments on the Interim Marina Policy, we ak that no further marinas be permitted on Harbour Island and that the current rescission of the Romora Bay marina approvals be made permanent. We request that you also consider mandating that all such future marina development throughout the country incorporate blackwater sewage treatment systems at each location. For years, the two commercial marinas on Harbour Island have been allowed to sidestep such an offering, despite the presence of 100+ feet liveaboard yachts for months at a time.

We would like to see more control exercised over the development and use of marinas in the Bahamas, especially the family islands. Boats and the boating industry contribute little to the Bahamas -- given the amount of products they carry in, and the amount of garbage and sewage they leave behind -- and a greater tax with a stronger regulation may help to curtail the boating industry and bring it down to a more manageable level.

Harbour Island in particular does not need any more commercial marinas. Valentine’s Yacht Club and the Harbour Island Marina, each with about 50 slips, are seldom full. There are islands in the Bahamas, such as Andros and San Salvador, which need the economic impact of additional development. Harbour Island is not one of them. The median per household income on Harbour Island is $45,000 which is about the same as the US.

The proposed Romora Bay marina will be another visual blight on the harbour. The Prime Minister has already called the Valentine’s condo/marina complex an “obscenity,” so why create another eyesore?

As we have seen, marina developers do not have a long term commitment to the island. Regardless of what they say, their goal is to go in, maximize their profits, and sell out.

Marinas, and their associated condominiums, increase population density as well as strain an already shaky infrastructure. Romora Bay’s proposed 30 slips and 35 condominiums would mean another 65-80 golf carts and the equivalent of another 65 households of trash, water consumption and electricity. Harbour Island’s water and electricity infrastructure is at the breaking point at the moment, and another development of this nature makes little economic or socially-responsible sense.

biggy
02-12-07, - 07:19 PM
It seems you have an agenda and dilemma concerning marina development in Harbour Island.I do agree,all development should be scrutinised. However I do not understand some of your logic. As a sportfishing boat owner,who has kept a boat in Hopetown for many winters,I know my dockage and peripheral spending adds to the local economy.At a cost of about $2,000.00 for dockage,electric and water per month,"all the while the boat is idle and empty,except for 4 or 5 days a month."Add to that $1,000.00 for fuel per visit,$200.00 to $300.00 per day per person spent on food and beverage,$100.00 per week to the guy that washes the boat,$50.00 per day for a golf cart,$350.00 for the cruising permit........... That adds little to the local economy?:confused:

Tafadhali
02-12-07, - 07:27 PM
It seems you have an agenda and dilemma concerning marina development in Harbour Island.I do agree,all development should be scrutinised. However I do not understand some of your logic. As a sportfishing boat owner,who has kept a boat in Hopetown for many winters,I know my dockage and peripheral spending adds to the local economy.At a cost of about $2,000.00 for dockage,electric and water per month,"all the while the boat is idle and empty,except for 4 or 5 days a month."Add to that $1,000.00 for fuel per visit,$200.00 to $300.00 per day per person spent on food and beverage,$100.00 per week to the guy that washes the boat,$50.00 per day for a golf cart,$350.00 for the cruising permit........... That adds little to the local economy?:confused:

but its the environmental degradation that concerns me. your 100 footer is taken up space and its slowly killing the environment.

islandgyal
02-12-07, - 07:40 PM
It seems you have an agenda and dilemma concerning marina development in Harbour Island.I do agree,all development should be scrutinised. However I do not understand some of your logic. As a sportfishing boat owner,who has kept a boat in Hopetown for many winters,I know my dockage and peripheral spending adds to the local economy.At a cost of about $2,000.00 for dockage,electric and water per month,"all the while the boat is idle and empty,except for 4 or 5 days a month."Add to that $1,000.00 for fuel per visit,$200.00 to $300.00 per day per person spent on food and beverage,$100.00 per week to the guy that washes the boat,$50.00 per day for a golf cart,$350.00 for the cruising permit........... That adds little to the local economy?:confused:


interesting point, but i think what cerasee is getting at is that most of the fees you mention in your post go immediately out of the country to the expat businesses that own these marinas and hotel and fuel resources, and not directly to the local economy ... other than the occasional dribble here and there for a golf cart, a conch salad and a "local" cruising permit that goes directly to nassau and stays there. that's all. the individual islands have to figure out a way to govern their resources a lot more effectively than nassau has to date. the bahamas national trust is a joke, and the defence force boats are seriously overwhelmed in terms of policing the local waters. the out islands are dealing with sportfishing boats that have mechanical reels on them, for chrissakes. where's the "sport" in that? and the out islands watch their waters become trashed.

biggy
02-12-07, - 08:28 PM
but its the environmental degradation that concerns me. your 100 footer is taken up space and its slowly killing the environment.

:dgi: Ahh...44 feet.BTW/I never owned an electric reel or killed a fish that I or the locals did not consume,at least one of which always fishes with me.:)

islandgyal
02-12-07, - 08:47 PM
:dgi: Ahh...44 feet.BTW/I never owned an electric reel or killed a fish that I or the locals did not consume,at least one of which always fishes with me.:)


then you're not the target of the discussion, i do not believe. the boats off north eleuthera and harbour island way start at 80 feet and max out around 160 feet, and the local facilities cannot handle their power or water needs. much less flush the harbour out after they clean their bilges or have a "fun" fishing tournament starring all of their buddies on their 60-foot minimum mathews yachts. completely different scenario in marsh harbour.

Rory
02-12-07, - 08:49 PM
why we aint crying about Nassau Harbour also? :(
even where i live, eastern road, the water out here is covered with garbage and fuel .. and this down as far as sans soucci

islandgyal
02-12-07, - 08:52 PM
why we aint crying about Nassau Harbour also? :(
even where i live, eastern road, the water out here is covered with garbage and fuel .. and this down as far as sans soucci


hey, our NEW BI project :) ... everyone on the forum gets to adopt an island, and cheerlead for its protection and sensible development!!!!!

taf, you taking exuma, right?

islandgyal could use some help with eleuthera, 'cos it's a loooong island.

who wants cat island and san salvador?

who's taking inagua and MCL?

Tafadhali
02-12-07, - 09:23 PM
hey, our NEW BI project :) ... everyone on the forum gets to adopt an island, and cheerlead for its protection and sensible development!!!!!
taf, you taking exuma, right?
islandgyal could use some help with eleuthera, 'cos it's a loooong island.
who wants cat island and san salvador?
who's taking inagua and MCL?

can I hold off until summer...I working on a big project...almost feel like ive bitten off more than I can chew right now...

islandgyal
02-12-07, - 09:32 PM
can I hold off until summer...I working on a big project...almost feel like ive bitten off more than I can chew right now...


:) of course ... it's never too late!

Rory
02-12-07, - 09:34 PM
hey, our NEW BI project :) ... everyone on the forum gets to adopt an island, and cheerlead for its protection and sensible development!!!!!
taf, you taking exuma, right?
islandgyal could use some help with eleuthera, 'cos it's a loooong island.
who wants cat island and san salvador?
who's taking inagua and MCL?

I think NP is a lost cause though .. :sailing:

diarra
02-13-07, - 01:01 PM
can i try my hand at Harbour Island? plenty issues dere.......

casualobserver
02-13-07, - 03:40 PM
I think NP is a lost cause though .. :sailing:


Don't tell Noman Soloman or Charles Klonaris, though.