I know some people think I only post negative things but I was not looking for this I just stumbled upon it and thought some on here would actually like to read it.

The article puports that the national average for the bahamas is actually F and that it is reported as D only becuase the private schools helped to boost this average. Being that the majority of kids are in public school i say they should report the average as F. In any even on their own private school average is D which isnt n e better.

i also like the chart break down.

http://www.thebahamasguide.com/facts/education.htm

Well, the "average" is skewed on many angles. I repeat: If a kid, post BGCSE, can go abroad to the two major learning institutory countries, and PASS, something is not wrong with our kids, something is wrong with the exam and the way we report the grades.

Well, the "average" is skewed on many angles. I repeat: If a kid, post BGCSE, can go abroad to the two major learning institutory countries, and PASS, something is not wrong with our kids, something is wrong with the exam and the way we report the grades.

I tend to agree with you on this,but I had a personal experience recently,after bringing my two stepdaughters from Abaco to Connecticut and enrolling them in school there.The girls were in grade 4 and 11 in Abaco.I personally enrolled them,sat with their respective guidance counselors while their transcripts were examined and understood their scholastic deficiencies..Each child was dropped back a grade level,as their previous grades and achievements were deemed unacceptable.The 16 year old is now thriving and missed honor grades by 1/2 a point.The 9 year old is beginning to do better but is struggling with math and reading comprehension.
These are smart kids,that just were in a poor school system,that pushed them ahead to keep the process moving.:)

I know some people think I only post negative things but I was not looking for this I just stumbled upon it and thought some on here would actually like to read it.
The article puports that the national average for the bahamas is actually F and that it is reported as D only becuase the private schools helped to boost this average. Being that the majority of kids are in public school i say they should report the average as F. In any even on their own private school average is D which isnt n e better.
i also like the chart break down.
http://www.thebahamasguide.com/facts/education.htm

sucks teeth at stupid post...
Let's talk about each one of us donating a computer to a public school...

As someone who is currently studying and taking BGCSE's (Just took my physics mock today) there is something wrong. The questions are horrendously worded. And the scale on which they are graded is inadequate to say the least. The way I see it, in order to fabricate these questions, one would have to be really stupid.

I agree that our system is flawed. I think quite a lot of it has to do with the academic push with a total disregard for the developmental level of a child. We tend to use American texts that are made for a certain developmental stage but we use them at an earlier stage.

In some instances students succeed but in most cases they are attempting to do work that they are developmentally not ready for.

In years gone by, the same system existed but students were not presented with all the distractions that exist today. Take into account that if you were educated pre 1990, you probably performed better.

Exam results were not everything...but more people surely were literate...why? Because they read. It is so difficult to get this t.v., computer, video-game generation to read. Think about it? How did you learn to read? I just remember reading and I am a 1984, (16 years old at the time) high school grad, with two degrees.

Well, the "average" is skewed on many angles. I repeat: If a kid, post BGCSE, can go abroad to the two major learning institutory countries, and PASS, something is not wrong with our kids, something is wrong with the exam and the way we report the grades.

Well its not the ones with the Fs goign to major institutions. I'll say it again as someone who went to government school the persons who I saw getting Fs asked for Fs (BJC and BGCSE). They were the same ones not applying themsevles (ducking classes like PE and family life, sharing bags, book, pen and tie). From what I saw, the students who were applying themsevles, I can say werent getting Es and Fs.

Well, the "average" is skewed on many angles. I repeat: If a kid, post BGCSE, can go abroad to the two major learning institutory countries, and PASS, something is not wrong with our kids, something is wrong with the exam and the way we report the grades.

average on the whole is skewed when you have a set of students scoring very high and some scoring very low.....it is not an accurate measure of how everyone is doing neccesarily....i will agree however that the bgcse exams need to be re evaluated...well to tell you the truth the entire education system needs to be looked at...the system is same as when my grandparents were in school.....no innovation no new ideas........this lack of concern for education explains alot of what is goin on in society...

is a british grade still higher than a Bahamian grade? Just curious ..
was when i went to COB but that was many moons ago .. i hope its changed since then ..

average on the whole is skewed when you have a set of students scoring very high and some scoring very low.....it is not an accurate measure of how everyone is doing neccesarily....i will agree however that the bgcse exams need to be re evaluated...well to tell you the truth the entire education system needs to be looked at...the system is same as when my grandparents were in school.....no innovation no new ideas........this lack of concern for education explains alot of what is goin on in society...


Here you go. Thank you. Sears is TRYING with no avail, to revise the curriculum. Don't know how much he has succeced. But, the teachers are NOT giving him any help or room.

I wonder if the FNM comes in, under Ingraham will they try the same thing?
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Well its not the ones with the Fs goign to major institutions. I'll say it again as someone who went to government school the persons who I saw getting Fs asked for Fs (BJC and BGCSE). They were the same ones not applying themsevles (ducking classes like PE and family life, sharing bags, book, pen and tie). From what I saw, the students who were applying themsevles, I can say werent getting Es and Fs.


Small minority of kids. With that, education should be alot more than just classes anyways. We have not used the education system to instill proper life values, so these kids, who are in the small minority, are the ones who APPEAR to be the odd ones out. But, the entire school system has not taught our kids the value of an education; with that, some parents dont see the need for it. Education is supposed to be the stop gap, when we meet up with wayward parents. It has failed in that regard, if it ever was succeding.

Half of the kids I have interviewed, in college and in high school told me that they did NOT know why they were in school and what they were doing, or for that matter knew what they wanted to do. That says something.
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Small minority of kids. With that, education should be alot more than just classes anyways. We have not used the education system to instill proper life values, so these kids, who are in the small minority, are the ones who APPEAR to be the odd ones out. But, the entire school system has not taught our kids the value of an education; with that, some parents dont see the need for it. Education is supposed to be the stop gap, when we meet up with wayward parents. It has failed in that regard, if it ever was succeding.
Half of the kids I have interviewed, in college and in high school told me that they did NOT know why they were in school and what they were doing, or for that matter knew what they wanted to do. That says something.
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Tru.....A small minority,because only a small minority od parents take a daily interest in their child's schoolwork.Where are you in math?Did you do your homework and may I help you with it?Good parent meet with their child's guidance counselor.good parents instill the value of school and education in their child's mind.Good school system or bad,a child that wants to learn will devour the curriculum. A student who doesn't recognise the value of education in the best school system in the world will do little.:hammer:

Tru.....A small minority,because only a small minority od parents take a daily interest in their child's schoolwork.Where are you in math?Did you do your homework and may I help you with it?Good parent meet with their child's guidance counselor.good parents instill the value of school and education in their child's mind.Good school system or bad,a child that wants to learn will devour the curriculum. A student who doesn't recognise the value of education in the best school system in the world will do little.:hammer:


Now we are going to get into the good parent, bad parent scenario where I can tell you a number of "good" parents, who have had kids who missed the mark due to factors not in their particular household.

This is not a one sided issue, and has to be taken from a number of ends. It is easy to sit and blame parents, because we can. But in reality, the situation should move beyond blaming parents and into making education and social services more responsive to that particular issue. One thing is for certain, pushing the system into a deeper quagmire by NOT providing sensitive services in education, does not solve the problem.
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I said before on BI and i'll say again that the Bahamian educational system needs reform. All of you know that the current system we have in place has been there for decades now. We have only modified it slightly in the past. Our failure to change has only crippled the educational system and this is why the national average is so low. I know many students that are enrolled in institutions of higher learning and has expressed the ease of achieving excellent grades. We are failing our kids Bahamas, how much longer will we let this continue?

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Now we are going to get into the good parent, bad parent scenario where I can tell you a number of "good" parents, who have had kids who missed the mark due to factors not in their particular household.
This is not a one sided issue, and has to be taken from a number of ends. It is easy to sit and blame parents, because we can. But in reality, the situation should move beyond blaming parents and into making education and social services more responsive to that particular issue. One thing is for certain, pushing the system into a deeper quagmire by NOT providing sensitive services in education, does not solve the problem.
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A plant may grow in a desert,if it is in a good spot,but it grows much better if fertilised and watered.So do young people.Make sure all the family infrastructure is there and a child,"more than likely" will do better scholastically.When a child is prepared,given the proper attitude and support it needs he or she,will exhaust or at least utilise offered education,watever the quality of such may be.I..do not see that preparation or parental attitude in our "me-me,"selfish society,where too much parenting is left to schools!
You my friend,may be educated,but your are only a focused thinker,I feel you lack either a linear thought process,or a talent for predicting the outcome of sequential planning.A better educational system? Absolutely,but first we need to better utilise wa we have.Adding more wood to an already smoldering fire rarely ignites it.:sailing: