How to put an end to terrorism?

[consultbahamas]

Are we doing the right thing with the present engagement?
What is the right thing to do?

[Alien]

Are we doing the right thing with the present engagement?
What is the right thing to do?
what are you reffering too??

[consultbahamas]

get osma bin laden, saddam and all the other extremist muslims in the world!

Its simple. to these terrorists, if you arent muslim, they want you dead. there is no talking or anything that can be done to change their maniac minds, they must be illiminated.


Thank you for your respond, but I think you missed something I said, and I think you ought to know that your suggestion has been underway for more than the pass two years. Well let me remind you again what I said here is a part of my statement

“If this war goes on to long and both sides continue to recruit to their sides then it is only a matter of time before the fighters forget what they are fighting for and sooner or later another beast is born.” The war will soon become very personal and it is pretty much so on the way even now as we speak.

In case you don’t’ already know, the US got Saddam a few days ago, what is happening now? Is Iraq with calmness tonight? Your answer is very expensive and deadly you are not the only one that thinks it is the answer, the US administration thinks so also and so far only money and people are being wasted and still no end in sight. Your idea is pretty much being tested now and I must say unless the direction is shifted it will not be very long before an other beast is born. It takes a calm head man to think a calm solution, and so far I see no calmness in sight.
However, your answer is your answer and you are free to respond with any ideas you can imagine.
Thank you.

[consultbahamas]

what are you reffering too??

It seems that most of us are comfortable and are confident with the present actions of the US and UK and I have heard very few intelligent Bahamian responses challenging this present action.
Are we doing the right think not speaking out?
Is the administration doing the right think dealing with terrorism (the expensive and deadly way)? What is the right thing to do?

[Rory]

Thank you for your respond, but I think you missed something I said, and I think you ought to know that your suggestion has been underway for more than the pass two years. Well let me remind you again what I said here is a part of my statement

“If this war goes on to long and both sides continue to recruit to their sides then it is only a matter of time before the fighters forget what they are fighting for and sooner or later another beast is born.” The war will soon become very personal and it is pretty much so on the way even now as we speak.

In case you don’t’ already know, the US got Saddam a few days ago, what is happening now? Is Iraq with calmness tonight? Your answer is very expensive and deadly you are not the only one that thinks it is the answer, the US administration thinks so also and so far only money and people are being wasted and still no end in sight. Your idea is pretty much being tested now and I must say unless the direction is shifted it will not be very long before an other beast is born. It takes a calm head man to think a calm solution, and so far I see no calmness in sight.
However, your answer is your answer and you are free to respond with any ideas you can imagine.
Thank you.

like i said, get them all! :-)) Yippie we got one!! :friday:

[consultbahamas]

like i said, get them all! :-)) Yippie we got one!! :friday:

There are soldiers and there are cheerleaders, I see your contribution to this war is be a cheerleader (clown), if a good cheer and a front row seat (chair) is about all that you want from this, then, good luck Rory!
You got one, perhaps you got two or three, you’ll get much more than this, much more than you can count, but this does not stop terrorism.
Again let me remind you of my question,
How to stop the terrorist. How to stop terrorism Rory?
I think you do not have a clue, If you do not know, then I think you should just say, “SORRY, I DON'T KNOW”.

We will respond to you according to your response.
The administration is looking for soldiers,
Consult Bahamas is seeking consultants (ideas).
The carnival is seeking clowns (cheerleaders) you are no consultant and far from being serious to be a soldier.
Therefore, we refrain forthwith from responding to clownish, hideous and hateful remarks.

Thank you.

[Rory]

There are soldiers and there are cheerleaders, I see your contribution to this war is be a cheerleader (clown), if a good cheer and a front row seat (chair) is about all that you want from this, then, good luck Rory!
You got one, perhaps you got two or three, you’ll get much more than this, much more than you can count, but this does not stop terrorism.
Again let me remind you of my question,
How to stop the terrorist. How to stop terrorism Rory?
I think you do not have a clue, If you do not know, then I think you should just say, “SORRY, I DON'T KNOW”.

We will respond to you according to your response.
The administration is looking for soldiers,
Consult Bahamas is seeking consultants (ideas).
The carnival is seeking clowns (cheerleaders) you are no consultant and far from being serious to be a soldier.
Therefore, we refrain forthwith from responding to clownish, hideous and hateful remarks.

Thank you.

you obviosuly do not know either, or else you would have stopped it by now. This is a wasted thread, there is nothing we as lay people can do so nothing you say makes any sense anyway, as you do not have the facts, you are not in the CIA or the other information services. You do not know what they know. End of story. You can claim all you want but we all know it's BS. And your 'administration', is only for one thing, posting over and over the same things over and over on these Bahamian message boards, Harold. What do you want soldier for, to come here and invade the Bahamas? Just curious ...

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[YorickBrown]

Stopping terrorism is virtually impossible at this point - Especially since one of the main reasons for terrorist acts is the accidental or deliberate infringement upon the territories or rights of a group of people and the resulting perception or realization that some form of infringement is occurring. Look at what is happening in Iraq right now, for example. Despite the capture of Saddam, violent acts of war (yes, war) continue to wisk away the lives of innocent people and soldiers. What is really happening over there is a hostile takeover, despite attempts to mask the entire ordeal as a goodwill effort. The situation can be compared to a person trying to spoon-feed an injured cobra – the person will get bitten. And despite any anti-venom they may have ready to counteract retaliation, the bite will hurt…a lot.

In the middle-eastern parts of the world there are people who are being exploited in ways that we cannot imagine, due to our relatively fat and happy lives in the western world. Mind you, their extremist reactions do not seem to occur right away, contrary to popular belief. Usually there are revolutionaries who speak out against those who carelessly abuse their power (governments, the wealthy, rulers, religious leaders, etc.) and eventually get to the point where they are just plain tired of not being heard. Their built-up frustration drives these persons to plan other ways of gaining attention. Unfortunately one of the ultimate forms of destruction is often used as their tool of ‘creation’ of change (and God said “Let there be light” – BOOM :sparky:).

With the globalization of world economies and the rapid advent of invasive technologies, which override and destroy native cultures at speeds as quick as the service at a fast-food joint, conflict is bound to occur. In the middle-eastern world when someone pushes an idea or concept that will not actively help or improve their cultural lifestyle, they are strong enough to fight it. Why? They have not been corrupted by the gleam of dollar signs as yet. They simply are holding onto the power to continue to develop their own beneficial cultural ideas and concepts. But what can they do against governments backed by multi-billion dollar corporations who make more money than their entire country’s yearly GDP? For those of us who live the “western life”, we judge them as being stupid and hardheaded. Actually though, we are the ones who are aimlessly lost, confused and living our lives like sheep.

According to the trends being followed in these times, terrorism will be nearly impossible to stop until everyone in this entire world has been ‘domesticated’ to the point where they simply accept exploitation of themselves, others and their environment. This will be a world where people do not question authority or challenge ideas or concepts presented to them by corrupt and greedy government officials. This will be a world where people are not given the opportunity to be educated enough to think for or improve upon themselves. This will be a world where equality will be commensurate upon the level of one’s economic prowess. This will be a world where free speech will only be allowed if one’s comments have no critical components against those in power. This is the path that the leaders of this world are currently pushing us along!

The other option is for EVERY world leader, politician and official to develop a conscience and do what is right for their people. And the way things are going right now, that isn’t going to happen in this twisted, selectively-capitalistic world. :hot:

[consultbahamas]

Thank you YorickBrown for your responds it is very enlightening and it sure does inform us to the direction that we are headed via the way of our leaders and most of us who are paying attention can see pretty much for ourselves these facts.

Putting and end to terrorism is like putting an end to everything else where as the people must take the stands against the selfish exploitation of power. It is the people who must take the stands and stand up to their elected officials whom they must hold responsible for putting into office to govern their lives. Only the people can put and end to the terror that threatens their lives not governments, not missiles and bombs.

It is quite obvious that the governments of large financial countries choose to place their finances into new military toys, and it is obvious that these governments prefer to play and to deal with small and simple solutions in relationship to their new toys. It is quite obvious that the government does not take the issue of terrorism serious enough, and can careless about the terror which affects the lives of their citizens, and if they did they would not approach the issue of terrorism in the way it is going now.

We can go on about the government for ever, but the half of the problem is the people, yes we who place them there and are keeping them there. Look no one is going to do what they say unless he is either pressured to do so, or see an interest for himself in doing so, otherwise you can for get it. The government forces the people to keep the rules that they make and so it is with the people, the people must force the officials to stick to the words they speak, the promise they make and the rules they make and not just make the rules to fit themselves. The people can make this happen, we need not resort to threats nor to violence but only voices, only letters, only pressure.

It is the people who must end this madness and this way is simple. But only through discipline this is possible. Yes, the people must turn to a true disciplinary way, a way that puts an end first to their own corruption a way in which “hope at last at last hope” to the next generation of officials to come.

Most of us reside in high places or should I say sit on the high seat of power for many reasons such as:
1) To show up themselves
2) To shower themselves with wealth
3) For getting even
4) Approval to parents, family or society and on and on…

These are all good reasons, but when the human become obsessed by either one of these reasons the purpose of that position or office is greatly defeated. There is no doubt that these reasons show in the results of humans relationships, any one of these reasons is poor.

We boast of progress, but what is progress when humans after thousand of years remain the most restless of all creatures. Yes with this restlessness we can send probes into empty space, shoot missiles from other planets to earth and greater things than this, but how is this progress when the boarder that divides two or more neighbors remains an issue even after thousands of years.

Today where there seems to hardily be an answer most certainly are many, but the answer is not government alone, and it is most certainly not the vileness of the people as terrorist nor the wars of governments as saviors that will do the trick nor answer the call. War is one answer but is certainly not the only answer and as long as the war toys are the main focus for everything, everything will most certainly be dominated by this answer, the answer of war. As for now all other answers it seems will have to take back seat, but never the less I see no reason why we should cease to debate this issue.
Thank You.