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nationbuilder
02-27-07, - 08:20 PM
Hmmm..I seem to recall that when I started a thread a while back stating these same indicators that are now coming to bear people here blasted me for it. Sorry yall, but it aint hard to know how some African Americans would feel on this matter...

Obama getting a cool reception from black America
POSTED: 6:42 p.m. EST, February 27, 2007

Story Highlights
• Obama trails Clinton by 15-20 points among black voters
• Some blacks doubt that Obama understands their experience
• Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, is the Senate's only black member
• Polls say blacks are less likely to believe America is ready for a black president

From Candy Crowley and Sasha Johnson
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls suggest whites are more likely than blacks to say America is ready for a black president, which may be part of why much of the African-American community is cool to the presidential candidacy of Sen. Barack Obama.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll conducted December 5-7, 2006, found that 65 percent of whites thought America was ready, compared with 54 percent of blacks. The poll's margin of error was plus-or-minus 5 percentage points.

George Wilson, the host of XM Radio's "GW on the Hill," hears doubts about the Illinois Democrat, the only black currently serving in the Senate, all the time from his black audience.

"There is this doubt 'But is America ready for a black president?' " Wilson told CNN. "And the overall consensus from my callers is that America is not ready for an African-American president."

Even at a rally for Obama in South Carolina you hear it:

"I'm being honest," Akyshia Gantt, an African-American, said. "No, I think -- which is bad -- that America is not ready for that, but I don't think they are."

Part of Obama's problem with black voters is that he is viewed by whites as the first black candidate with a legitimate shot at the White House.

"When white America has embraced a candidate -- as they have with Barack Obama -- there is a certain amount of distrust that goes with this among a number of African Americans," Wilson said

Among blacks, Obama's chief rival for the Democrat's 2008 presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, polls 15 to 20 points better than Obama and benefits from name recognition and deep Clinton roots in the black community.

Obama suffers, in part, because voters are not familiar with him and there is doubt whether the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, who was raised in Hawaii and educated in elite schools, can relate to the black American experience.

This has been described as "not black enough," a notion and a phrase that Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who is a noted civil rights leader, rejects.

"I don't think he has any of the hang-ups that a lot of people that are victims of segregation and racial discrimination tend to have," Lewis said. "I think he's free of it, and he's running as an American citizen." (Watch Rep. Lewis on Sen. Obama's candidacy )

Forty-two years ago, Lewis was beaten in the voting rights march from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama -- a day that became known as "Bloody Sunday." Now, 43 African-Americans serve on Capitol Hill, and thousands of black politicians serve nationwide.

Time has made Lewis a true believer.

"In the depth of my heart, I believe it is possible for Sen. Obama to become president of the United States," Lewis said. "I think the American people are prepared to take that great leap. They're prepared to lay down the burden of race."

Jer
02-27-07, - 08:21 PM
Hmmm..I seem to recall that when I started a thread a while back stating these same indicators that are now coming to bear people here blasted me for it. Sorry yall, but it aint hard to know how some African Americans would feel on this matter...
Obama getting a cool reception from black America
POSTED: 6:42 p.m. EST, February 27, 2007
Story Highlights
• Obama trails Clinton by 15-20 points among black voters
• Some blacks doubt that Obama understands their experience
• Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, is the Senate's only black member
• Polls say blacks are less likely to believe America is ready for a black president
From Candy Crowley and Sasha Johnson
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls suggest whites are more likely than blacks to say America is ready for a black president, which may be part of why much of the African-American community is cool to the presidential candidacy of Sen. Barack Obama.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll conducted December 5-7, 2006, found that 65 percent of whites thought America was ready, compared with 54 percent of blacks. The poll's margin of error was plus-or-minus 5 percentage points.
George Wilson, the host of XM Radio's "GW on the Hill," hears doubts about the Illinois Democrat, the only black currently serving in the Senate, all the time from his black audience.
"There is this doubt 'But is America ready for a black president?' " Wilson told CNN. "And the overall consensus from my callers is that America is not ready for an African-American president."
Even at a rally for Obama in South Carolina you hear it:
"I'm being honest," Akyshia Gantt, an African-American, said. "No, I think -- which is bad -- that America is not ready for that, but I don't think they are."
Part of Obama's problem with black voters is that he is viewed by whites as the first black candidate with a legitimate shot at the White House.
"When white America has embraced a candidate -- as they have with Barack Obama -- there is a certain amount of distrust that goes with this among a number of African Americans," Wilson said
Among blacks, Obama's chief rival for the Democrat's 2008 presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, polls 15 to 20 points better than Obama and benefits from name recognition and deep Clinton roots in the black community.
Obama suffers, in part, because voters are not familiar with him and there is doubt whether the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, who was raised in Hawaii and educated in elite schools, can relate to the black American experience.
This has been described as "not black enough," a notion and a phrase that Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who is a noted civil rights leader, rejects.
"I don't think he has any of the hang-ups that a lot of people that are victims of segregation and racial discrimination tend to have," Lewis said. "I think he's free of it, and he's running as an American citizen." (Watch Rep. Lewis on Sen. Obama's candidacy )
Forty-two years ago, Lewis was beaten in the voting rights march from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama -- a day that became known as "Bloody Sunday." Now, 43 African-Americans serve on Capitol Hill, and thousands of black politicians serve nationwide.
Time has made Lewis a true believer.
"In the depth of my heart, I believe it is possible for Sen. Obama to become president of the United States," Lewis said. "I think the American people are prepared to take that great leap. They're prepared to lay down the burden of race."

Hey wouldnt you rather obama than hillary??? Im still waiting for al gore to step in haha

nationbuilder
02-27-07, - 08:23 PM
Hey wouldnt you rather obama than hillary???

I'm certainly no Hillary fan, but months ago I opined that segments of the African American community would be likely to feel this way about Obama, for reasons that are so very ironic.

Rory
02-27-07, - 08:58 PM
Well he needs to quit with the bush bashing, but thats just politricks ..:escape:
Other than that hes a better choice than Clinton any day of the week ...

trubahamian
02-27-07, - 08:59 PM
I'm certainly no Hillary fan, but months ago I opined that segments of the African American community would be likely to feel this way about Obama, for reasons that are so very ironic.

I just saw on World News Tonight,that Obama is narrowing the gap,between he and Clinton,among Democrats.That wasn't the real interesting news though.Among Republicans,they heavily favored Obama over Clinton and were likely to vote for him if their party offers a poor candidate!That is amazing!Go Barack!:driving:

nationbuilder
02-27-07, - 09:05 PM
I just saw on World News Tonight,that Obama is narrowing the gap,between he and Clinton,among Democrats.That wasn't the real interesting news though.Among Republicans,they heavily favored Obama over Clinton and were likely to vote for him if their party offers a poor candidate!That is amazing!Go Barack!:driving:

He need to change he middle name doh..lol..Hussein een where its at! :shaky:

BahamaWave
02-27-07, - 09:13 PM
they say he's a cigarette smoker too and that may harm his winning. Martin Luther King was a chain smoker too.

Tafadhali
02-28-07, - 10:10 AM
I'm certainly no Hillary fan, but months ago I opined that segments of the African American community would be likely to feel this way about Obama, for reasons that are so very ironic.

:gi:
...as I recall the initial post in your previous thread was permeated with nothing but insulting notions discrediting the intelligencia of 30 million Black Americans. That is what I took issue with.

Flash forward to this thread, see you have to understand that African Americans are inherently suspicious of the white American's motive...there is nothing wrong with that.

Newsflash!
"...and his numbers are way up among Black voters" Tom Joyner just said that a few minutes ago.

Tafadhali
02-28-07, - 10:19 AM
they say he's a cigarette smoker too and that may harm his winning. Martin Luther King was a chain smoker too.

do you know how many american's smoke, that might resonate with the electorate; it makes him human...he can bne relatable to an average joe in America's heartland who smokes too much also...hell I smoke a 'port every now and then when im jittery-I know its not god for me, but I like how that buzz makes me feel. Hell it could be worse, he could be on serious drugs...the doyen of their present administration "had" a coke problem. ;) smoking cigarettes dont make you irratic or place you in a situation where you find yourself on a subway asking a man to suk his dik for a hit. pick your poison.

BahamaWave
02-28-07, - 10:25 AM
do you know how many american smoke, that might resonate with the electorate; it makes him human...he can bne relatable to an average joe in America's heartland who smokes too much also...hell I smoke a port every now and then when im jittery I know its not god for me, but I like how that buzz makes me feel. Hell it could be worse, he could be on serious drugs...the doyen of their present administration had a coke problem. ;) smoking cigarettes dont make you irratic or put you in a situation where you find yourself on a subway asking a man to suk his dik for a hit. pick your poison.


I don't have a problem with him smoking. I smoke too much myself. :)

Exrated
02-28-07, - 10:31 AM
they say he's a cigarette smoker too and that may harm his winning. Martin Luther King was a chain smoker too.


he's quittin smoking..

Alien
02-28-07, - 10:49 AM
Smoker or non smoker...what in the world does it matter.
Jim Boehner, the Republican leader in congress even before they lost control, is a heavy chain smoker. No one talks about him?

Let it go...I don't see where this is an issue.

chancellor
02-28-07, - 11:47 AM
Obama suffers, in part, because voters are not familiar with him and there is doubt whether the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, who was raised in Hawaii and educated in elite schools, can relate to the black American experience.


And....ummm....Hilary Clinton......does?:eek:

In fact, is there any politician in Washington able to fully relate at all?

I don't think sitting down in an AME church in Atlanta for half a day will show that, but it does seem to be the way to portray the image.

Anyway In my opinion what Obama needs to do is ignore Hilary's camp...they seem to look more and more desperate to erode his popularity in trying to find fault in him just from drinking a bottle of evian. Continue pressing on the issues, which alot of people want to hear, and since he has the fortune of not having a very long carrer in politics, he has the luxury of saying what he wants without having to worry much about past positions unless he starts flip-flopping himself. What's so cool is that he has the luck of saying what he wants about the war, since he never had the opportunity to vote on that fatefull resolution.

Joe Baboon
02-28-07, - 01:21 PM
"I inhaled, frequently, that was the point."

Exrated
02-28-07, - 01:48 PM
Smoker or non smoker...what in the world does it matter.
Jim Boehner, the Republican leader in congress even before they lost control, is a heavy chain smoker. No one talks about him?
Let it go...I don't see where this is an issue.



and most presidents have been big on smokin cigars..

one could argue that cigars are better than cigarettes.. but the two could give u problems either way..

i dont see the big deal either.. the key here is that the man is upfront and candid with his vices.. past and present.. and he is now making an effort to quit one of them..

that ability to be upfront about whatever vices you may have had/still have... is vitally important to me.

Mr. Obama gained more respect from me after all of this..