View Full Version : Who dese young people gettin they swords out for?
licks2 03-14-07, - 05:21 PM I got an e-mail from all the way inWest Niger today asking me to look at the editorial of the guardian for March 14! We had a lil bet that Bahamian elections are usually hard to call from rallies and the parties all over the place!
Nah both of us studied Content Analysis and Data Mining methods for purposes of predicting possible outcomes of particular "mass" human/social behaviours!
And we both agree that the most significant piece of "mass" information that indicated possible thinking of the "changers" amoung the Bahamian electorate is the "mass" registration of three significant voting blocs in this country!
For example, out of 132,611 registred voters, 18-25 years (18,720); 31-35 years (16,161) and 41-45 years (16,686). This is for a grand total of 51,567...after ya see our turn-outs are usually averages 90-91%!
Comparatives with pervious elections (92, 97 and 2002) show that when the kids (18-45) got "pissed" and go to the regitration booth enmasss...a big cut azz was coming fer somebody! :cutie: :shhh:
NAH THE DIEHARDS OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES GAT THEY DIEHARDS ALL "SCRINCHED-UP" BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN AN ELECTION WITH A 91% AVERAGE TURN OUT...IF THOSE YOUTH VOTE!
OUR CONCLUSION, THESE YOUNG FOLKS GETTIN READY TO SHOW US SOMETHING WE EEN EVER SEEN BEFFORE!!!
THEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT ONE POLL I SAW OF MORE-FM WHERE SOME FOLKS WERE CHOOSING ANOTHER PARTY...OVER BOTH MAJOR PARTIES (FNM 42.74%; bdm 44.64% & PLP 10%)!!!
INTERESTINLY ENOUGH...THAT POLL HAD THE PLP EXTINCT!!!
WE BOTH AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WATCHING THAT "VOICE" OF THE YOUNG...AND IT BEHOVES THEM BIG PARTIES TO DO THE SAME!
WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE KIDS "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
watsayu 03-14-07, - 05:41 PM WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
honestly I can truely tell you that good old Hubert as soon as he was re-elected leader got a list of each and every single bahamian from age 13 to 21 years.. not only did he made contact with themm but he had a complete search done on them.. for a fact.. I know that most of them were contacted, for a fact I know that he knows who they are, where they live and other details about them... but let me tell ya.. last election my nephew voted PLP he was a first time voter.
I recall on the night when the PLP won he came runing to me with great excitment.. the plp is the government, jobs all ova the place, i get be rich in 30 days.. cause perry say eleuthera will be booming in 30 days....
today, my nephew is a disappointed young bahamian, he was not even going to regrister... eventually he did a few days ago, he has not decided if he is going to vote... but for sure he does not want anything to do with those crooks in the plp he says...
He has opened his own little car wash and washes cars from time to time.. other then that he is just a disappointed former PLP first time voter.. like many of them who supported the PLP in 2002... On another point, I work for a company who has a lot of young first time voters... most came here because they were told the PLP is hiring.. well they got a good history lesson from me .. those who came in their So Said .. So done T-Shirts.... no job and I told them why. "No Politics"... others were hired on the spot.. and every day, I preach to them.. honestly over the last year, I took about 100 myself to regrister.. and made sure that they are OK.. they are doing well.. the majority of them will vote FNM .. some do not say nothing.. but evey second of every hour.. I preach the gospel of PLP crookedness and they get Hubert and the FNM's message right from me.. hell, they look forward to our luchtime sessions now...
I am sure.. that young bahamians from the amount that comes out to the fnm evente will support the fnm, yes those from diehard PLP families on the grey train.. cannot save them..
but the majority will vote angirly against the plp ...
I will bet on this.. PLP is get a good cut sssa...
grouper2 03-14-07, - 05:41 PM I got an e-mail from all the way inWest Niger today asking me to look at the editorial of the guardian for March 14! We had a lil bet that Bahamian elections are usually hard to call from rallies and the parties all over the place!
Nah both of us studied Content Analysis and Data Mining methods for purposes of predicting possible outcomes of particular "mass" human/social behaviours!
And we both agree that the most significant piece of "mass" information that indicated possible thinking of the "changers" amoung the Bahamian electorate is the "mass" registration of three significant voting blocs in this country!
For example, out of 132,611 registred voters, 18-25 years (18,720); 31-35 years (16,161) and 41-45 years (16,686). This is for a grand total of 51,567...after ya see our turn-outs are usually averages 90-91%!
Comparatives with pervious elections (92, 97 and 2002) show that when the kids (18-45) got "pissed" and go to the regitration booth enmasss...a big cut azz was coming fer somebody! :cutie: :shhh:
NAH THE DIEHARDS OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES GAT THEY DIEHARDS ALL "SCRINCHED-UP" BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN AN ELECTION WITH A 91% AVERAGE TURN OUT...IF THOSE YOUTH VOTE!
OUR CONCLUSION, THESE YOUNG FOLKS GETTIN READY TO SHOW US SOMETHING WE EEN EVER SEEN BEFFORE!!!
THEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT ONE POLL I SAW OF MORE-FM WHERE SOME FOLKS WERE CHOOSING ANOTHER PARTY...OVER BOTH MAJOR PARTIES (FNM 42.74%; bdm 44.64% & PLP 10%)!!!
INTERESTINLY ENOUGH...THAT POLL HAD THE PLP EXTINCT!!!
WE BOTH AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WATCHING THAT "VOICE" OF THE YOUNG...AND IT BEHOVES THEM BIG PARTIES TO DO THE SAME!
WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE KIDS "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
you saying that BDP will be the next HNIC???
watsayu 03-14-07, - 05:45 PM you saying that BDP will be the next HNIC???
this is not a not a joke, what was said at a meeting that I attended the other day, was this.. from the way things look look for the BDM to be the opposition as the PLP may get wipped right out.. and it is not beyond possibility...
bahmaboy 03-14-07, - 05:59 PM after this election. with in the next 15 yrs the BDM will become the governing party of the bahamas. provided they keep the same pace they are going at
honestly over the last year, I took about 100 myself to regrister.. and made sure that they are OK.. they are doing well.. the majority of them will vote FNM .. some do not say nothing.. but evey second of every hour.. I preach the gospel of PLP crookedness and they get Hubert and the FNM's message right from me..
I can actually picture that .. :p
licks2 03-15-07, - 03:04 PM you saying that BDP will be the next HNIC???
Just a thought! After all, these young uns are the forece to recond with in this election. And I dear say that the party that tap (excluding the PLP cos they don show that they een shed) into that "nitche" could very well be the next government!
Alien 03-15-07, - 04:38 PM I got an e-mail from all the way inWest Niger today asking me to look at the editorial of the guardian for March 14! We had a lil bet that Bahamian elections are usually hard to call from rallies and the parties all over the place!
Nah both of us studied Content Analysis and Data Mining methods for purposes of predicting possible outcomes of particular "mass" human/social behaviours!
And we both agree that the most significant piece of "mass" information that indicated possible thinking of the "changers" amoung the Bahamian electorate is the "mass" registration of three significant voting blocs in this country!
For example, out of 132,611 registred voters, 18-25 years (18,720); 31-35 years (16,161) and 41-45 years (16,686). This is for a grand total of 51,567...after ya see our turn-outs are usually averages 90-91%!
Comparatives with pervious elections (92, 97 and 2002) show that when the kids (18-45) got "pissed" and go to the regitration booth enmasss...a big cut azz was coming fer somebody! :cutie: :shhh:
NAH THE DIEHARDS OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES GAT THEY DIEHARDS ALL "SCRINCHED-UP" BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN AN ELECTION WITH A 91% AVERAGE TURN OUT...IF THOSE YOUTH VOTE!
OUR CONCLUSION, THESE YOUNG FOLKS GETTIN READY TO SHOW US SOMETHING WE EEN EVER SEEN BEFFORE!!!
THEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT ONE POLL I SAW OF MORE-FM WHERE SOME FOLKS WERE CHOOSING ANOTHER PARTY...OVER BOTH MAJOR PARTIES (FNM 42.74%; bdm 44.64% & PLP 10%)!!!
INTERESTINLY ENOUGH...THAT POLL HAD THE PLP EXTINCT!!!
WE BOTH AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WATCHING THAT "VOICE" OF THE YOUNG...AND IT BEHOVES THEM BIG PARTIES TO DO THE SAME!
WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE KIDS "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
First of all, your rationale is hard to follow and you could do with a sensible, well written post.
Second, you account for everyone under 45 who accounts for roughly one quater of the electorate. But you forget the most important bloc, and those are the senior citizens. Who vote in almost all democracies, more frequently than any other bloc and rightfully so.
Third. I don't quite follow the theory that, the 92 and 97 election spelled disaster for anyone, unless you have exit polling to show exactly who voted for who where. Can you produce that one?
Fourth. Are the numbers you are quoting, the registered voters for both 92 and 97 elections in the Bahamas together, or are they the "very suspiciously" same registered voters for two separate elections?
Fifth. You can not be seriously counting the more94fm poll, with anything serious. LOL....You guys shock me everyday. Considering the more94 demographic, happens to be young people, because they have more time to call and actually listen to more94's ragga ragga music, along with the fact that the young voter, hardly ever understand the issues to begin with, leaves me with a feeling that you should not, as a aspiring analyst, mention such foolishness as part of your discusion on the issues. Not that there is no validity in the claim, just that the way they went about presenting their "facts" is a little dubious to say the very least.
Not crawling up your azz, well yes I am. But clarify some of the methods on your learned study my fair lady?!?
For the rest of us dumb ignant folk. Take no offence watsayu, I was meaning nationbuilder.
:o
chancellor 03-15-07, - 04:49 PM I got an e-mail from all the way inWest Niger today asking me to look at the editorial of the guardian for March 14! We had a lil bet that Bahamian elections are usually hard to call from rallies and the parties all over the place!
Nah both of us studied Content Analysis and Data Mining methods for purposes of predicting possible outcomes of particular "mass" human/social behaviours!
And we both agree that the most significant piece of "mass" information that indicated possible thinking of the "changers" amoung the Bahamian electorate is the "mass" registration of three significant voting blocs in this country!
For example, out of 132,611 registred voters, 18-25 years (18,720); 31-35 years (16,161) and 41-45 years (16,686). This is for a grand total of 51,567...after ya see our turn-outs are usually averages 90-91%!
Comparatives with pervious elections (92, 97 and 2002) show that when the kids (18-45) got "pissed" and go to the regitration booth enmasss...a big cut azz was coming fer somebody! :cutie: :shhh:
NAH THE DIEHARDS OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES GAT THEY DIEHARDS ALL "SCRINCHED-UP" BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN AN ELECTION WITH A 91% AVERAGE TURN OUT...IF THOSE YOUTH VOTE!
OUR CONCLUSION, THESE YOUNG FOLKS GETTIN READY TO SHOW US SOMETHING WE EEN EVER SEEN BEFFORE!!!
THEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT ONE POLL I SAW OF MORE-FM WHERE SOME FOLKS WERE CHOOSING ANOTHER PARTY...OVER BOTH MAJOR PARTIES (FNM 42.74%; bdm 44.64% & PLP 10%)!!!
INTERESTINLY ENOUGH...THAT POLL HAD THE PLP EXTINCT!!!
WE BOTH AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WATCHING THAT "VOICE" OF THE YOUNG...AND IT BEHOVES THEM BIG PARTIES TO DO THE SAME!
WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE KIDS "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
That is interesting. The BDM have been trying to seek out the young at college campuses. In fact Cassius spoke at my politics class last semester. They are the party that had their vision posted on the net long before everyone else, on top of that at least we know what they are about while we are still waiting for the major parties to lay out a platform. Will they though get enough votes in the constituencies to win some seats....and therefore introduce the third party pressence in the HOA?
Also the commisioner running the process said through his numbers that the young are actually turning out contrary to what some percieve. I guess the young were just procrastinating :o
licks2 03-15-07, - 05:16 PM First of all, your rationale is hard to follow and you could do with a sensible, well written post.
Second, you account for everyone under 45 who accounts for roughly one quater of the electorate. But you forget the most important bloc, and those are the senior citizens. Who vote in almost all democracies, more frequently than any other bloc and rightfully so.
Third. I don't quite follow the theory that, the 92 and 97 election spelled disaster for anyone, unless you have exit polling to show exactly who voted for who where. Can you produce that one?
Fourth. Are the numbers you are quoting, the registered voters for both 92 and 97 elections in the Bahamas together, or are they the "very suspiciously" same registered voters for two separate elections?
Fifth. You can not be seriously counting the more94fm poll, with anything serious. LOL....You guys shock me everyday. Considering the more94 demographic, happens to be young people, because they have more time to call and actually listen to more94's ragga ragga music, along with the fact that the young voter, hardly ever understand the issues to begin with, leaves me with a feeling that you should not, as a aspiring analyst, mention such foolishness as part of your discusion on the issues. Not that there is no validity in the claim, just that the way they went about presenting their "facts" is a little dubious to say the very least.
Not crawling up your azz, well yes I am. But clarify some of the methods on your learned study my fair lady?!?
For the rest of us dumb ignant folk. Take no offence watsayu, I was meaning nationbuilder.
:o
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ya gat it just fine...old bean! Cos we all know when ya gat it and carn say anything to the contrary...ya usually nit pick and ramble. And appearently, them youth they understand just fine...geared to kick old "deadweights" outta we house...for good...whomever they be!
As fer crawling up ma tail....no thanks...don't need any runny shed comin outta there! Maybe one er ya pals at mofa may enjoy you offer of " carnal delights" as whitny Bastian would say more than I would...sorry!:cool:
proud1 03-15-07, - 08:22 PM I got an e-mail from all the way inWest Niger today asking me to look at the editorial of the guardian for March 14! We had a lil bet that Bahamian elections are usually hard to call from rallies and the parties all over the place!
Nah both of us studied Content Analysis and Data Mining methods for purposes of predicting possible outcomes of particular "mass" human/social behaviours!
And we both agree that the most significant piece of "mass" information that indicated possible thinking of the "changers" amoung the Bahamian electorate is the "mass" registration of three significant voting blocs in this country!
For example, out of 132,611 registred voters, 18-25 years (18,720); 31-35 years (16,161) and 41-45 years (16,686). This is for a grand total of 51,567...after ya see our turn-outs are usually averages 90-91%!
Comparatives with pervious elections (92, 97 and 2002) show that when the kids (18-45) got "pissed" and go to the regitration booth enmasss...a big cut azz was coming fer somebody! :cutie: :shhh:
NAH THE DIEHARDS OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES GAT THEY DIEHARDS ALL "SCRINCHED-UP" BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN AN ELECTION WITH A 91% AVERAGE TURN OUT...IF THOSE YOUTH VOTE!
OUR CONCLUSION, THESE YOUNG FOLKS GETTIN READY TO SHOW US SOMETHING WE EEN EVER SEEN BEFFORE!!!
THEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT ONE POLL I SAW OF MORE-FM WHERE SOME FOLKS WERE CHOOSING ANOTHER PARTY...OVER BOTH MAJOR PARTIES (FNM 42.74%; bdm 44.64% & PLP 10%)!!!
INTERESTINLY ENOUGH...THAT POLL HAD THE PLP EXTINCT!!!
WE BOTH AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WATCHING THAT "VOICE" OF THE YOUNG...AND IT BEHOVES THEM BIG PARTIES TO DO THE SAME!
WHATSAYU? ARE WE IN FER A "NEW" THING...WHERE THESE KIDS "POTTIN" TA SEND THE OLD-GUARD PACKIN FER EVER?:gi:
:jawdroop: Rubbish ... I don't think the BDM even stand a very SLIM change in this election. So let's get real .ok:lafs:
garnelleo 03-15-07, - 08:30 PM I honestly will be surprised Mr. Stuart himself wins in his own constituency.
Alien 03-15-07, - 08:59 PM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ya gat it just fine...old bean! Cos we all know when ya gat it and carn say anything to the contrary...ya usually nit pick and ramble. And appearently, them youth they understand just fine...geared to kick old "deadweights" outta we house...for good...whomever they be!
As fer crawling up ma tail....no thanks...don't need any runny shed comin outta there! Maybe one er ya pals at mofa may enjoy you offer of " carnal delights" as whitny Bastian would say more than I would...sorry!:cool:
LOL...I get it. PM me, let us discuss the issues. I would like to hear from you.
:tup:
licks2 03-16-07, - 12:56 PM :jawdroop: Rubbish ... I don't think the BDM even stand a very SLIM change in this election. So let's get real .ok:lafs:
And I do agree with you this morning...now that he said that they will be fielding no more that 25 candidates comes election!
We (West Niger and I) did the maths and concluded that their decision to feild 25 candidates only, the new boundries, amount of seats offered, given the numbers of registed voters and amount of political parties, their chances of carring out what the poll suggested has decreaased considerably! Foe example, they are talkin "landslid" for any reasonable chance...which is unlikely...cos they would need 21+ seats to command the majority. Thas around where them major parties are pushing fer...and they gat the monies to push fer it!! Them BDM bouy may have a good chance in the future, we decided, but not this go round...this ger be PLP and FNM party!
Thus, the null is that the FNM has a hansome lead over the PLP! In addition to the Moncur poll, it looks that the PLP has its job cut out for it!:shhh:
But like Eddie Jacobs does say: "sh!t happens".:hammer:
Alien 03-16-07, - 06:50 PM Do not blame this election on the young vote. The theory does not hold water historically.
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