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fasttract
03-15-07, - 02:00 PM
I would like to hear some of the ways we can help save our youths
and maybe even our nation as a hold.You can list the many ways or reason you think would set our youths on the right path.Many are leaving the islands and heading to the city,allot say they just want out of island living.A few told me ,they just want employment,money,family of their own,car ,house or a boat to go fishing.There are many reason but i really would like to hear more from the working class, unemployed, students ,government,and business leaders, police,customs officers, rbdf , immigrationofficers and teachers this is for a personal devoplment course so i appreciate your help if you can assist me.

bahmaboy
03-29-07, - 05:57 AM
the answer is simple...........................JOBS.

Decent jobs that offer them oppurtunites. If a person doesnt have a job that fulfills them they are gone. So I suggest thats where u place ur focus.

Vicky
03-29-07, - 06:20 AM
the answer is simple...........................JOBS.
Decent jobs that offer them oppurtunites. If a person doesnt have a job that fulfills them they are gone. So I suggest thats where u place ur focus.

That is a good idea create jobs I am sure it would help.. Can I ask How??? What kind of jobs????

watsayu
03-29-07, - 06:43 AM
the answer is simple...........................JOBS.
Decent jobs that offer them oppurtunites. If a person doesnt have a job that fulfills them they are gone. So I suggest thats where u place ur focus.
... but first education, and I mean a radical = approach, we must stop what we are doing now, cause in large part our young people are not 10% ready for anything after highh school, that is why some of them, (not even the majority) create so much problems for the majority of us...

..then.. good paying and meaningful jobs must be made available.. there are too many jobs that keep us as black people servants....,

trubahamian
03-29-07, - 06:45 AM
That is a good idea create jobs I am sure it would help.. Can I ask How??? What kind of jobs????

It is a double edged sword among many here ya know.Jobs can only be created through two methods that I know,either in the public sector,"which requires more taxes" or in the private sector "which requires more development." Too many peeps are frightened of the private sector as it is mainly provided in the form of foreign investment.How else is a developing nation,with an appetite for living well,supposed to afford to develop without foreign investment? With proper Gobment controls,to assure we do not become a nation full of "second homes", I think foreign investment is a good thing and is the only way for a capital starved nation to push ahead and provide these jobs.:raw:

islandgyal
03-29-07, - 08:05 AM
BUY BAHAMIAN.

support bahamian business whenever you can, and good jobs will stay in the out islands.

every time you go on a massive shopping spree in opalocka or a florida walmart, a bahamian job angel cries.

bahmaboy
03-29-07, - 09:03 PM
well vickky and whatsayu,

this is a very complex situation and the solution is complex. a good education or educational facilities and there are no jobs the educational system would be useless and vice versa.

the reason i say focus on jobs is becuase right now JOBS would keep PEOPLE in the island. and those people would have children and their children would have children and while the population is being stablized you work on providing better education and better jobs.

as it stands right now with no job any kind of jobs EVERYONE is rolling out.

when u say what kinds of jobs it would be a good idea to start with argricultural and industrial jobs for the islands.

i am no expert in this area but I have studied human behaviour and sociology and the fact is when people have no place to work they leave that inviroment

BTW- n e one c all those haitians that flood miami yesterday

canewry
03-29-07, - 09:09 PM
the answer is simple...........................JOBS.
Decent jobs that offer them oppurtunites. If a person doesnt have a job that fulfills them they are gone. So I suggest thats where u place ur focus.

umm...
not sure if that is the answer...
the 'meaningful' people who actually does leave the Bahamas can create their own jobs...jobs are hear for Doctors and nurses...yet they leave...jobs are here for computer technicians yet they leave...jobs are here for entrepeneurs with brilliant ideas yet they leave...now a days even the lawyers leaving, (now thats scary).

The leave here not because of opportunity or jobs, they leave the Bahamas because of quality of life. We need to improve our quality of life here in the Bahamas, then perhaps more people would be less inclined to abandon the Bahamas.

grouper2
03-29-07, - 11:50 PM
I would like to hear some of the ways we can help save our youths
and maybe even our nation as a hold.You can list the many ways or reason you think would set our youths on the right path.Many are leaving the islands and heading to the city,allot say they just want out of island living.A few told me ,they just want employment,money,family of their own,car ,house or a boat to go fishing.There are many reason but i really would like to hear more from the working class, unemployed, students ,government,and business leaders, police,customs officers, rbdf , immigrationofficers and teachers this is for a personal devoplment course so i appreciate your help if you can assist me.

Here how we can save our youths.Government need to take the lead and open the treasury purse to the defense force and police force.boths agencies should have all the personnels and equiptment it takes to operate professioally. They should have planes, helicopters,boats of all size so they can protect our boarders (air,land and sea).
In each of the agencies there should be a department that fully train in carpentry,plumbing,masonary,agriculture,fishery and what ever else you can teach a person. Now this is where it gets tricky. (thinking out side the box)
School hours should begin from 6.00am to 8.00am,regular 8.30am to 3.00pm and 4.00pm to 6.00pm Monday to Friday.Have the defense force personnel come in for 2 hrs to teach student all of the above careers, same with the police in the evening. 6.00am classes could be for youths who are out of school,evening classes for students who are still in school. controlling some of their free time.
We then need a government leader who will put country first and not them getting to be millionares in 5 short years and start to bring in other investment besides more hotels.eg: (clothing manufractures,canning, ect.) the wireless company in freeport is a perfect example of what am saying. I can see 1 day tourist will not beable to travel here, then what will happen to our bread and butter. We need to get farming,fishing and canning manufacturing on the go. When we as a nation can grow enough food to feed all of us and we have no tourist, atleast our belly will be full.(just imagine being brook and hungry).:bahamas:

bahmaboy
03-30-07, - 04:37 AM
umm...
not sure if that is the answer...
the 'meaningful' people who actually does leave the Bahamas can create their own jobs...jobs are hear for Doctors and nurses...yet they leave...jobs are here for computer technicians yet they leave...jobs are here for entrepeneurs with brilliant ideas yet they leave...now a days even the lawyers leaving, (now thats scary).
The leave here not because of opportunity or jobs, they leave the Bahamas because of quality of life. We need to improve our quality of life here in the Bahamas, then perhaps more people would be less inclined to abandon the Bahamas.



YOU ARE CORRECT canewry. i said this was a complex issue with a complex solution

those person u mentioned leave not becuase they cant find jobs but the quality just isnt there or should i say not on par with canada, america, uk. they live ok in the bahamas but in their profession they can make 2 to 3 times more in the countires i mentioned and their quality of life will improve. ie better cars. biggr house. better schools for kids. more job growth etc

the suggestion i mentioned was just the surface and i was talking in terms of youth persons just out of high school or college and if i had to go into great detail about the different characters that leave and why they leave it would take up an entire page and no one would read it. hell i could speak from personal experiance as to why i didnt return.

my suggestion is a start when it comes onto YOUTH becuase people are more likely to stay where they were born and raised IF there is a little glimmer of hope.

in other words if YOUTHS had the oppurtinity to work in feilds that pleased them or gave them satisfaction they are more likely to stay....actually for most they only want a job. the majority of the bahamas youth doesnt have an extended education past high school so all they looking for is a job. if they could only find a job they would stay............

WHY? cuase thats where they were born and raised, thats where they went to school, where their friends are, where their family is.

u said many are leaving not becuase there are no job oppurtunities. I beg to differ. that statement backs up my observation that bahamians dont realise how serious the job situation/unemployment issue is for the bahamas.

for the groups u mentioned there are SOME jobs left and job space left in the bahamas but for most jobs not requiring extended education the job market in the bahamas is oversaturated with applicants and even in most jobs that do require extended education there arent that many degree required jobs compared to those applicants that qualify for those jobs except for teachers, nurses, doctors.

U may have a job but believe it or not right now in the bahamas if u aint a teacher, doctor, nurse, self employed, working for government (even they be having hiring freezes), or know someone who could pull some string. DOG EAT YA LUNCH in terms of a job. of course the last resort could be to sign ur life over to defense force, police, prison officer (even those jobs r feeling the pains of the oversaturated market)

i can say this becuase right now i am watching with my own eyes most of my cousins ages 18-25 leaving for Florida. they tried to find jobs but whatever little jobs are available basicaly the entire bahamas is applying for it. not only do they have to deal with nassuvians but everyone from acklins to grand bahama coming to nassau fighting for jobs. it is my specualation that the unemployment situation isnt that apperent becuase for bahamains its very easy to hop on a plane and leave and of course when they land there is family on the other side that will help them get on their feet.

my cousins would like to stay and find a job so they could settle down in their home country and only see miami on shopoing trips but thats not possible. all of them have tried desperatly to find jobs, there are lots of job ads but for every job they apply for there is about 200 or more people after that job, the odds are simply against them.

8 out of 10 bahamians who i knoe that left wouldnt change n e thing bout the bahamas and would stay if there were jobs cuase to them yeah things expensive but everyone club together and split living expenses. food and cloths expensive. hey thats an excuse to go to miami. gas cost alot but to them it dont matter cuase they put it in 5 and 10 dollars at a time.

u r right quality of life is another issue. its not that a good quality life isnt possible in the bahamas its just that only the very rich can afford it. however based on my close observation the job issue is more paramount becuase if u dont have a job no matter how good the quality of life is it would mean nothing to you and u would still leave.

bahmaboy
03-30-07, - 04:41 AM
BUY BAHAMIAN.

support bahamian business whenever you can, and good jobs will stay in the out islands.

every time you go on a massive shopping spree in opalocka or a florida walmart, a bahamian job angel cries.


this is a catch 22. buying in the bahamas cost money, money bahamians dont make. u realise that kalik cost more that heniken.

the reason bahamians go to the usa to shop is to streth their dollars. they would love to buy bahamian and shop in the bahamas but they simply can not afford it

Kaotik
03-30-07, - 09:12 AM
I can say one or two things on this matter. It aint the education. Every Bahamian student I met who went Stateside excels in college. I was a average student at SAC ..was a honor student stateside. Met a lot of students from other Schools (Bahamas Academy, Queens College, RM Bailey etc) We weren’t the smartest students back home... but over here we were killing it.

The reason I stayed in the US was primarily the jobs. In Nassau I only see 3-5 paths of employment for the typical 18-30yr old male.

1.) Tourism Industry
2.) Banking Industry
3.) Police/Defense Force (75% of my friends do this.. almost my entire old neighborhood)
4.) Work For Yourself legally/or illegally (and when your business takes off expect a bunch of copy-cats).
5.) Don’t work

Yes a lot of parents line-up jobs for their kids in the private sector. Also many families in Nassau only hire (top positions) from their cousins, or friends.. keeping it a family business.

The 2nd reason I stayed in USA was the housing. At age 23 I bought my house here, for less than a decent lot price in Nassau. I have seen plenty of my friends living in apartments or rental homes... or even staying with their parents.

Honestly my family back home and my wife and family in USA knows.. If I could find a comparable job with adequate housing in Nassau or Freeport. I’d go home in a heartbeat. In the meantime I work hard over here... and plan to move to an out-island to retire.

CG
03-30-07, - 10:28 AM
I can say one or two things on this matter. It aint the education. Every Bahamian student I met who went Stateside excels in college. I was a average student at SAC ..was a honor student stateside. Met a lot of students from other Schools (Bahamas Academy, Queens College, RM Bailey etc) We weren’t the smartest students back home... but over here we were killing it.
The reason I stayed in the US was primarily the jobs. In Nassau I only see 3-5 paths of employment for the typical 18-30yr old male.
1.) Tourism Industry
2.) Banking Industry
3.) Police/Defense Force (75% of my friends do this.. almost my entire old neighborhood)
4.) Work For Yourself legally/or illegally (and when your business takes off expect a bunch of copy-cats).
5.) Don’t work
Yes a lot of parents line-up jobs for their kids in the private sector. Also many families in Nassau only hire (top positions) from their cousins, or friends.. keeping it a family business.
The 2nd reason I stayed in USA was the housing. At age 23 I bought my house here, for less than a decent lot price in Nassau. I have seen plenty of my friends living in apartments or rental homes... or even staying with their parents.
Honestly my family back home and my wife and family in USA knows.. If I could find a comparable job with adequate housing in Nassau or Freeport. I’d go home in a heartbeat. In the meantime I work hard over here... and plan to move to an out-island to retire.

Welcome to the site.

If you dont mind me asking in what field are you working in at the moment?

Kaotik
03-30-07, - 12:36 PM
I'm a Graphic Artist.

The field is in Nassau now and it is growing (my brother keeps me updated). But I graduated college in 1998 at age 19. The job offer I took here couldn't be met in Nassau. 9 years later I'm at the same company, and I have moved up in positions. (Plus I hustle sidework, you know how we do, so I'm comfortable). There is no way I could be in this position at age 28 in Nassau.

Another thing of major importance that is lacking in the Bahamas is a way for people in USA or Europe that went abroad, is to see what jobs are available in the Bahamas. I sometimes dig around sites and I cannot find any that lists Careers or Job openings anywhere for industries in the Bahamas. How are they going to decide if they want to come back to work.. if they have no clue what jobs are available and what these employeers are paying.

--- Thanks for the welcome, although I registered years ago. I guess I never posted.

canewry
03-30-07, - 12:45 PM
I can say one or two things on this matter. It aint the education. Every Bahamian student I met who went Stateside excels in college. I was a average student at SAC ..was a honor student stateside. Met a lot of students from other Schools (Bahamas Academy, Queens College, RM Bailey etc) We weren’t the smartest students back home... but over here we were killing it.
The reason I stayed in the US was primarily the jobs. In Nassau I only see 3-5 paths of employment for the typical 18-30yr old male.
1.) Tourism Industry
2.) Banking Industry
3.) Police/Defense Force (75% of my friends do this.. almost my entire old neighborhood)
4.) Work For Yourself legally/or illegally (and when your business takes off expect a bunch of copy-cats).
5.) Don’t work
Yes a lot of parents line-up jobs for their kids in the private sector. Also many families in Nassau only hire (top positions) from their cousins, or friends.. keeping it a family business.
The 2nd reason I stayed in USA was the housing. At age 23 I bought my house here, for less than a decent lot price in Nassau. I have seen plenty of my friends living in apartments or rental homes... or even staying with their parents.
Honestly my family back home and my wife and family in USA knows.. If I could find a comparable job with adequate housing in Nassau or Freeport. I’d go home in a heartbeat. In the meantime I work hard over here... and plan to move to an out-island to retire.

Good luck with that...out island lots ga be expensive when you ready...foreigners buying them out