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bosque
10-11-02, - 04:01 PM
Bahamian doctors who studied in Cuba, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Cook Islands, etc... are not afforded the opportunity to intern in this country by the persons making up the medical counsel led by Bigy Dr Baldwin Carey. His first reasons were that the school was not accredited and questioned as to other nationals responded that the G.M.C in London accepts the schools that those nationals attended.

Lo and behold when we checked the G.M.C also accepts the schools that the bahamian doctors attended, now he's scrambling for other reasons and in the maintime none of the bahamian doctors are permitted to intern here. It does not end here.

The matter was taken up with the Min Of Health Dr Bethel who wiggled out of it saying his hands were tied, we and he knows better, there is a clause in the act that gives him power to bypass the counsel and hire whomever he deems fit, thats for another forum.

Due to these actions or lack of , the Min Of Health? Med Counsel are now faced with possible court action, all this for a Govt that says its for Bahamians..

The Prime Minister is taking the low road on this issue [maybe due to family involvement ],and we have 13 + persons involved not 6 or 7, if Baic cried Victimization, what are we to CRY.

Judson
10-11-02, - 10:12 PM
I don't have any details on this matter yet, but I think we need to have some quality control over the training our doctors receive. we have students who have trained all over the world, and all training is not equal. I have seen some disasters from doctors who are not well trained and you can tell the difference.

In the U.S.A. you have to take an exam if you went to school out of the country before you can even be considered for an internship. Dr. Baldwin Carey trained under that system and I am sure he would like to have some method to determine the quality of the training our young doctors receive before allowing them to have an internship and work/practice on our Bahamian people.

Our people deserve the best medical care they can get here in the Bahamas without having to run to Florida all the time.

bosque
10-11-02, - 11:13 PM
Glad you noticed , and did you also note which school or system those doctors came from, would it not be a easy and useful tool to just visit the country or school in question to establish first hand if the training is equal or even superior than by being judgemental..i think you missed the part about the G.M.C in london.. they have the school listed in their list because they went to check it out first hand..internship is the process where you determine if a person is fit to the task at hand.. passing the U.S exam means resident status not intern in the U.S. sustem with that you can do a specialty.. get it and dont talk about best care because i have volumes from patients who after being "treated" here have to go to Cuba for correction and if you are not really biased take a trip to the clinic in Cuba take off the blinders for a short time its worth the small fee or just hang out at the airport and see what i'm talking about and these patients are not being treated here [in Nassau] by interns, its done by veterans or would you prefer i publish some of the cases with the patients permission showing diagnosis and treatment here and diagnosis and treatment and results after Cuba, i have nothing to lose the Cuban doctors already have an opinion of our doctors, i'm glad i did not contribute to that and if our doctors have the mentality you project for them, its no big wonder patients need to go to Cuba.

Delroy
10-11-02, - 11:38 PM
I feel that the government needs to invest into a University right here in Nassau or on one of the family islands for students who wish to later become doctors. Hire professional physicians from every corner of the globe, weather it is Cuba or the United States, thereby the Bahamian student gets knowledge from all aspects of medical treatments and a University that attracts medical students from all over the world.

I am sure that there are many retired doctors all over the world who would be most glad to take up residence in our country.
I think that it is very sad that Bahamians have to go to a foreign country to study medicine and we have been an independent nation for almost 30 years.

P.S.
Have we ever thought about educational tourism? :rolleyes:

ebo
10-15-02, - 09:25 PM
I believe in statistics. When God started the world he said "let there be probabilities and standard deviations."

Internship is part of the medical training process - a very important part. Qualified Bahamians should not be denied the opportunity to intern in the Bahamas.

A few questions for Bosque

1. Are there any doctors recognized by our medical council who attended any of these universities?

2. Is there anywhere one can get the statistics on how many people died under the care of which doctors and the circumstances of their deaths?

3. Is there anywhere one can get information on misdiagnoses by doctors and the serious consequences?

4. Can we relate the failures of doctors which resulted in serious circumstances for patients to training at certain universities?

In the Bahamas we have a lot of intellectual arrogance. It is often among people who, if you checked their backgrounds, barely scraped through university or begged for grades in their studies. Then they return home and set themselves up as Gods. I've seen many people who were barely literate, travel to America, return with a degree, and then they were smart. I know a good number of doctors who never learned the fundamentals of physics, math, chemistry, or biology, but were busy rote learning everything to try to pass exams. They obviously did whatever it took to become doctors. That does not make them good doctors.

We need a system that will evaluate good doctors and place them to care for people. Internship, I believe, is a process for separating the sheep from the frogs.

Bosque, why don't you intern somewhere else?

Bosque, why don't you take your case public?

If you know you are right, do not sit still and be victimized. Make your plight known. Make your oppressors known. As soon as you make your oppressors known, if they have any skeletons - literally this time, in coffins around the Bahamas, they will pop out to haunt your oppressors.

Some people very close to me had very close calls because some big shot doctors misdiagnosed them and nearly killed them. They never even apologized afterwards. They continue to practice and hold lofty positions in the medical profession in the Bahamas. I am confident they have high "kill rates". But it is not known. The web might be a good place to publish it. I have no difficulty publishing what happened in the cases I am aware of and I am sure other people will do the same thing when they become aware of the site.

I hope you will care enough to be a good doctor and not just be out there for the money. Caring often makes the difference in how well one practices one's profession.

Bahamas Writer
10-22-02, - 12:24 AM
Has Bosque tried any of the Walk In Clinics here in Nassau?

One doctor who qualified at The University of the West Indies treated me at one of the Walk In Clinics and you couldn't ask for a more caring, professional and knowledgeable physician. She's great!

Good luck and best wishes to Dr. Bosque!

Warm regards,
Fay
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