You are blabbering on with nonsense, you dont deserve an answer. Post your real name, and experience, then you might be afforded a reply, until then, nice trolling.


Well, I've given you my experience, and my name is irrelevant to the points I've made. (or do all your answers need to begin letters in my name ?)

Your only responses so far have been to ignore the questions and attack me personally with name calling. Not a very adult or eloquent way to 'prove' your point.

Just for fun, imagine Garnell posted my points, or Tecoyo... see if you can come up with responses without resorting to derogatory attacks.

I'll leave it there.

Well, one more point. You say I won't be afforded a reply, yet you've replied to every post I've made since joining this esteemed board. I do so hope you see the irony in that!

Jokes ^^
some little script kiddie just started using Php and thinks its the bomb
... and websites are sooo cool ... LOL
no problem with that ..
and have fun using other people's templates. .. ;)


Ahh, I now see you you work. I've given you the length of my experience, and you simply ignore that too.

Nothing I could say would have any affect, as you clearly hear only your own voice. And seem to be deeply fond of it too.

I think we can probably end this here. You've shown your true colours to all who partake here, forever recorded in black and white, and I don't think that even if you could respond intelligently to any of my rebuttals you'd regain any credibility you may have once had.

Good evening to you.

:tup: Keep it up Rory u are a master at what u do :p

Here you go Garnel: http://www.w3schools.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
I started out with this site years ago. Books are good too but I usually fall sleep on them ;)


They should make books with a drool resistant pillow-top cover

Now now...PHP isn't all bad.

Without it, I wouldn't have the time to manage all of my sites. Yes, I am a template w h o r e indeed ;)

ASP does rock, but it never truly grabbed my attention the way that PHP did.

Web 2.0 is in full swing, no doubt.

Most of the Internet world has gone LAMPS

Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP and SQL

PHP is now object oriented, and when it is combined with XMLHTTP request object in an AJAX fashion, you can get server side data without page refreshes.

We are creating exceeding hot enterprise web apps with LAMPS plus TomCat, MyFaces, Hibernate, Spring and Java portlets.

All this to say, I am really big on PHP.

Now now...PHP isn't all bad.
Without it, I wouldn't have the time to manage all of my sites. Yes, I am a template w h o r e indeed ;)
ASP does rock, but it never truly grabbed my attention the way that PHP did.
Web 2.0 is in full swing, no doubt.

Well ASP doesnt rock much anymore, not the classic stuff I do, though ASP.net has taken over with most commercial applications. I still prefer classic ASP though and will use it until it stops being supported, when needed, as there isn't anything I can't do in ASP. I prefer stand alone VBS to Server Side VBS though as thats alot more useful in the real world ... great for Vista also .. ;)

The troll didnt read my initial post properly and no way was I explaining what I meant to a no namer. Other than that I dont have any real issues with Php, besides I dont like the syntax.

PS. i use to sell ASP templates to customers ..
many moons ago, before Php and others came about ..
i wrote one of the first ASP search engines .. ahh the good ole days,
now browser security features have screwed up so much, nothing is the same anymore,
thank the malware writers for that though ... i prefer to write a client-server app over a browser app any day of the week now .. especially when it comes to remote video ..

i prefer to write a client-server app over a browser app any day of the week now .. especially when it comes to remote video ..

On that note have you built any large scale video monitoring interfaces (100 or more remote cameras)? One that would be useful for a central monitoring service add-on for clients over the internet.

Obviously live monitoring of that number of cams at the same time would be bandwidth intensive, but the need would be to cycle through the cams, then an automatic display of any of them that detects motion.

I have someone who is interested,but who is also concerned with $$$

On that note have you built any large scale video monitoring interfaces (100 or more remote cameras)? One that would be useful for a central monitoring service add-on for clients over the internet.

Obviously live monitoring of that number of cams at the same time would be bandwidth intensive, but the need would be to cycle through the cams, then an automatic display of any of them that detects motion.

I have someone who is interested,but who is also concerned with $$$


I did a 30 camera version for a MacDonalds Franchise in the US, last year.
Im implementing that into my own viewer, but im going to do 64 cameras, or sites. Yep bandwidth is one of the issues, the other is the CPU usage ... though with the quad core I shouldnt have to worry too much about that. Just cant afford the quad core yet to test it, but will test with the Core 2.

I added in motion detection just recently, but its not 100% yet. CMS system is more what Im gearing it towards in the next version (while retaining the desktop type app), with the basic version to be free and limited, the full version, or variations, will cost depending on the license. Right now its selling as is though, which is still good, as I need another couple months of coding until I release the new version in just Beta mode for testers.

The above mentioned app is for GeoVision DVRs, but once the manufacturer supplies the SDK or activeX it can be done for any device, though the features will vary. Ive done apps for GE Dvrs, as well as I-View, and Eclipse .. they dont give you as much play as GeoVision though.

Otherwise, alot of manufacturers these days supply a ready built CMS app either included for free, limited, or for a small additional charge.

many moons ago, before Php and others came about ..

PHP 1.0 was released around 18 months before ASP 1.0 was released (PHP: June 1995, ASP December 1996).

It is, therefore, highly unlikely you were developing in ASP before PHP came about.

As for 'others':

Perl: 1987
ColdFusion: 1995
Lasso: 1996 (October)
Python: 1994

All precede ASP.

Warmest Regards,

NoNamer.:taped2:

I know it was around, but nobody was using it.


And you would know that how, exactly?

Did you know every web developer in the world personally in 1996?

Or is this more 'opinion' based on the fact that you didn't happen to *know* anyone using it?

I didn't know anyone using ASP in 1996, but that doesn't mean no one *was*. I'd have to be a very arrogant person to state such a thing.

Warmest Regards,

NoNamer ScriptKiddie Wannabe

Look here you piece of crap, post your friggin name, stupid coward posting all this dumb stuff about Php this and that .. noone cares, noone gives a dam .,.. so just go jerk off back to yahoo where you belong .. fuk off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I haven't posted any 'dumb stuff' about PHP. Just facts.

You, however, have posted *nothing* but dumb stuff about PHP.

I'm just doing other readers who may see your posts a favour by pointing out your nonsense.

Call it public service if you will.

Oh, and nice to see you've managed to learn basic adult behaviour and stop the name calling.

... hang on... maybe you haven't!

Warmest Regards,

Wannabe Cowardly Scriptkiddie from Yahoo! (so I'm told)

PS, do you want me to post my name, or go back to Yahoo - your post seems confused in that regard.

say facts, hogwash is what it is.
its all BS anyway, friggin troll.
http://www.bahamassecurity.com/images/sarcastic.gif


So, just to confirm, according to you:

The FACTUAL release dates of those languages are hogwash
The FACT that IBM publicly announced full support for PHP in 2005 is hogwash
The FACT that Yahoo is built on PHP is hogwash
The FACT that HP is built on PHP is hogwash
The FACT that PHP is more advanced than ASP was 3 months after its 1.0 release is hogwash.

OK, pleased you cleared that up for everyone. What you say is truth, and facts are mere 'BS' spread to annoy you.

You're really not coming out of this very well, Rory. Unfortunately the hole you've dug yourself into may be hard to climb out of.

Warmest Regards,

Your Wannabe Script Kiddie Lying Cowardly Yahoo Troll

so just go falk back off to your little mac PC and leave the pros alone in the real world. Dug myself in .. you've been answering imaginative posts from the start under a fake name .. you have no understanding of real coding, nothing about browser applications and internet security. Noone was using php back then and you know it, your just a little anal rententive punk with nothing better to do than try to protect your little useless job working for someone else for the rest of your life.


Not even close. But A+ for effort.

Still having difficulty controlling the name calling I see!

Oh, and posts such as:


Look here you piece of crap, post your friggin name, stupid coward posting all this dumb stuff about Php this and that .. noone cares, noone gives a dam about your little php web sites .. so just go jerk off back to yahoo where you belong .. falk off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


could hardly be called imaginative.

Desperate, frothing, hateful, childish, and somewhat pathetic, definitely, but imaginative... I don't think so.

just some other punk using a mac then .. oh well.
You really think anyone cares about Php ..? I CERTAINLY DONT!!
have fun trolling yah stupid loser .. Php has sucked from day one, copied from other languages .. made for people that cant code .. put that up your butt and smoke it!


Again, All your opinion. (and you've made it clear that you don't care about PHP, however, you are not the only person on this board - there are others who may) .

I'm really not interested in promoting PHP, or necessarily interested in using it. I just felt that the board needed someone to correct your misinformation to avoid others inadvertantly believing the original comments you made were actually factual in any way.

And yes, I use a Mac. And a Windows based PC. And other platforms.

Presumably that also makes you far superior to everyone else somehow.

Warmest Regards,

Pathetic Mac using punk script kiddie with a worthless job.