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nationbuilder
03-31-07, - 03:34 PM
Ok, I'm not being political here, but I'm all for what Hubert Ingraham said today about the use of religion in politics..

http://www.freenationalmovement.org/download.php?id=145&cmd=view

I want to say at this juncture and say it clearly: there are some in political life in our country today who have taken to using religion to bolster their politics. They use religion as a means to an end. A prop to be taken up and put down as the wind blows.

These same individuals seek to defame and denigrate others who do not behave as they do.

For my part I say that a preacher I am not. A politician I am.

I do not pretend to be anything I am not. I am no hypocrite.

My faith and my religion are matters that bring me spiritual enrichment.

I believe in Almighty God. I believe in His son Jesus Christ. I respect my God; I respect my Lord Jesus Christ. I will not play with God and I will not play with the Lord Jesus Christ.

I do not attend church so that others might see me. Jesus, after all, warned us about those who do such things.

He called them hypocrites. A hypocrite I am not. I do not put my faith on display for politics.

God knows all and he sees all. The Heavenly Father knows my heart and that is all that matters. It is God who said, “Give me thine heart; that is all I require of thee.”

We in the FNM have always understood and accepted that we could do all things, but only through Christ, who is our strength.

Alien
03-31-07, - 03:39 PM
HI has been, and is a Godless wonder. He has historically not been a church man. And if he had any care for the church, he would not have said what he had said to gaijn political points.

He would know as well that a man's spirituality, and what he does for God is up to him. So what if the PLP goes to church and shows it?

Doesn't he realize that a number of PLP's are church going, conservative in the sense of this copmmuntity, people?

The PLP are doing what it is that their members like to see them do. As much as you hate to see it, if you want my vote you had better get with God. As a christian I respect that for my own personal pleasure, even if it is not undertsood in another mans heart the way that I would never begin to understand it in.

Rory
03-31-07, - 03:41 PM
HI has been, and is a Godless wonder.

godless to the nutjobs. :shaky:

pharoah
03-31-07, - 03:44 PM
godless to the nutjobs. :shaky:

And the religious hypocrites. How ironic?

Alien
03-31-07, - 03:47 PM
godless to the nutjobs. :shaky:


He makes no bones about his being against the church, and what they stand for in this country. They for one, have never swung in favour of the FNM at anytime. Regardless of their wins in 92 and 97.

The nutjobs are all relative and I wish you would desists in this hatefull language. Hypocrties to you maybe, but nutjobs because they share a different view is not a very kind thing to say in this regard.

Alien
03-31-07, - 03:49 PM
And the religious hypocrites. How ironic?


If he was to say right now, pharoah jump off of the PI bridge, you would wouldnt you?

Coward. You even forget your own religion for this man. If you had some left, like we all know the Godless FNM has very little of.

No one in this town attacks the church, like the FNM does. No one.
Why is that so?
:uh:

It aint about spirituality that's for sure. It's about votes. Both are dispicable if you ask me, but such are the people we live with.

Rory
03-31-07, - 03:51 PM
He makes no bones about his being against the church, and what they stand for in this country. They for one, have never swung in favour of the FNM at anytime. Regardless of their wins in 92 and 97.
The nutjobs are all relative and I wish you would desists in this hatefull language. Hypocrties to you maybe, but nutjobs because they share a different view is not a very kind thing to say in this regard.

how is that hateful .. i dont hate people because they are nutty .. most my acquaintances are like that .. :cheers: You call one Godless because they are not the type of christian you want them to be ... but i suddenly hate someone cause i call them a whackjob?? :sarcastic :rolleyes: Oh the hypocrisy ... BTW .. how is he against the church?? Do you mean the CC?? Cause thats not the Church, and even if it was, thats not being against Christianity or religion and definately not God for that matter. You dont have to goto a church to be a christian and dont even have to be a christian to believe in god. People that say otherwise, are those nutjobbies .. ;)

nationbuilder
03-31-07, - 04:03 PM
You call one Godless because they are not the type of christian you want them to be ...
Now this is the thing right here that's the problem with many of us.

pharoah
03-31-07, - 04:38 PM
It is very strange that the ''Christian party'' have had the most egregrious of scandals and allegation per five year term in the history of the Bahamas.

Our self righteous PM acts as if he see and hear no evil while around him is a band of thieves and robbers. Men, who illegally used a million dollars of the peoples money without parliamentary approval and is praise by our PM.

Two of his colleagues physically fought in the cabinet building and he initially lied and played down the fight. What is most unethical about the whole affair is that this so call christian leader is allowing those ''fistic'' role models to contest the elections!

These violent men are allowed to contest the election while the violence and homocides are on a record splitting pace!! Over 25 murders and month of march is not quite over. The storm it appears has just began!

The man only wears his religion for political purpose--a means to an end. Classic evil.

What christian man will seek to blame someone for Sir lynden's departure when he knows quite well that he facilitated his retirement because he wanted to exercise his leadership and said so in parliament! By the way he has not denied the quote. A hypocrite he is, but not a fool.

Yet another situation that showed the supreme hypocritical nature of the Perry and his band of pretenders is, the Rev Moss affair. For a party who claim to respect the church, the way Rev Moss was threated shows exactly what the PLP is all about.

The so call God's party cuss out and denigrate the man of God like never before! He was call everything but a child of God. The PLP has become the poster boy for unethical conduct and ineptitude. Supreme hypocrites like so many defending them!!

Alien
03-31-07, - 04:51 PM
Now this is the thing right here that's the problem with many of us.


Well that's the lie. If he follows Christianity then let that be on him He should not have brought it up, if he did now want to be attacked on it.
:tup:

Alien
03-31-07, - 05:05 PM
It is very strange that the ''Christian party'' have had the most egregrious of scandals and allegation per five year term in the history of the Bahamas.
A stretch of your immagination. The last term of the FNM, rivals any administration we have ever had; and far outstretches this current administration by a million miles.

Our self righteous PM acts as if he see and hear no evil while around him is a band of thieves and robbers. Men, who illegally used a million dollars of the peoples money without parliamentary approval and is praise by our PM.
What are you babbling about man. Making up scandals?

Two of his colleagues physically fought in the cabinet building and he initially lied and played down the fight.
He did not know how serious it was as he was not there. Give Perry fault for running his mouth too soon, not for talking and lying about something he did not know. You have to know about it, to lie about it. And with that, the altercation aside from the breaking of the furniture was minute as no man had scratches on the other. Ingraham slapped a woman.

What is most unethical about the whole affair is that this so call christian leader is allowing those ''fistic'' role models to contest the elections!
If HI can come back after what he has doen phsycially to people. So can anyone else. This is a country of forgiveness, we forgave HI and anyone else. We can forgive, let the voters decide if they want these men back; not because you say they should go. By your account, as silly as you seem, you would want the whole PLP to be dissolved. Following you, would be following a blind man through a butchers cage.

These violent men are allowed to contest the election while the violence and homocides are on a record splitting pace!! Over 25 murders and month of march is not quite over. The storm it appears has just began!
Murders have been rising. Thanks in part to the failed education policy, under the FNM which will take years to fix. Yes murders. These thugs were created under the FNM and their lack of social and education policy.

The man only wears his religion for political purpose--a means to an end. Classic evil.
Tell that to HI. HI is trying to drive a wedge in between the Church and the PLP. That is classic evil. Do not confuse the two.

What christian man will seek to blame someone for Sir lynden's departure when he knows quite well that he facilitated his retirement because he wanted to exercise his leadership and said so in parliament!
They are on separate levels, the constant emotional attacks on LO and Christie asking him to leave.

By the way he has not denied the quote. A hypocrite he is, but not a fool.
If he had denied the quote, he would have been a hypocrite ...azz.

Yet another situation that showed the supreme hypocritical nature of the Perry and his band of pretenders is, the Rev Moss affair. For a party who claim to respect the church, the way Rev Moss was threated shows exactly what the PLP is all about.
Moss was rejedcted by the people of B&G. Period.

The so call God's party cuss out and denigrate the man of God like never before! He was call everything but a child of God.
The only person who can be at blame is Roberts, and even his remarks were moderated. Do not make up stories now pharoah. You are getting particularly on the the dangerous side of the fiction.


The PLP has become the poster boy for unethical conduct and ineptitude. Supreme hypocrites like so many defending them!!

Well you just insulted half of this country the Church. It took you long enough to get there. Here we go folks, the typical FNM sentiment about everyone else who is not an FNM!

Education, Financial Services, Social Services and Urban Planning as well as Family island development, is enough for any person who understands the issues, to run over to FNM headquarters and slap everyone on site.
:hot:
Education and Financial Services alone. Yet you have the nerve, to talk about ineptitude?

It was amazing after LO died, the FNMs leaders' bright ideas, just stopped flowing!
An FNM leader who was a PLP, and in closer relation to his predesessor than anyone in the house today!
Hhhmmmmm....

runner
03-31-07, - 05:16 PM
A BIGGER JACK A-- tha y2k, you could never find

runner
03-31-07, - 05:19 PM
Stop defending Perry, it was him who forced Pindling out, noone else, PLPs are just now finding out the truth, more of his own words to stuff down his throat coming soon, all about TIMING!

RockWell
03-31-07, - 05:19 PM
A BIGGER JACK A-- tha y2k, you could never find
Heehe^^^^^

pharoah
03-31-07, - 05:25 PM
A BIGGER JACK A-- tha y2k, you could never find


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