Poverty in the Bahamas seems to be increasing. There are more beggars on the street than before. There are many more people on the street that are obviously in need of help. There seems to be townships of delapidated houses now even though thousands of homes have been built in Nassau over the last 20 years.

What is responsible for the expanding poverty? Is there a way to reverse or eliminate the severely depressed conditions in the Bahamas?

Illegal villages are being established in the bushes throughout Nassau and on some Family Islands. What are we doing about these? Anyone who is concerned knows about these villages where people are living in squalor.

How long will it be before this creeping poverty overtakes most of the Bahamas?

If there is poverty in the bahamas who is at fault. I have seen bahamains liveing in shacks and driving a 50000.00 dollar
vehicle. Every one wants to livew above there means and cant afford it.

Originally posted by classicromeo22
If there is poverty in the bahamas who is at fault. I have seen bahamains liveing in shacks and driving a 50000.00 dollar
vehicle. Every one wants to livew above there means and cant afford it.

that may be the case..but the government should really do something about it, having people on the street is not attractive at all...if ppl wanna live above their means and cant afford it..they should be prepared to face the consequences..but there is no need for all those ppl to be on the streets.

Originally posted by miracles
that may be the case..but the government should really do something about it, having people on the street is not attractive at all...if ppl wanna live above their means and cant afford it..they should be prepared to face the consequences..but there is no need for all those ppl to be on the streets.

I agree totally, instead of politicians getting paid rediculous salaries, some of that should be in a budget to go to some form of shelters or food program, like in first world countries. The governmenr receives alot of tax from import duties, enought to cover certain important things.

I see 5-10 year olds all over the streets selling fruit, they are endangering themselves by that they may get run over by a vehicle, the parents should be fined or arrested. It is child endangerment.

Potcakes everywhere, need to take any animal that is not within a fence, off the street.

Jonesers and beggers everywhere, this is also a huge problem. This is what is going to continue to make the bahamas, although its mostly just nassau, look in tourist eyes, a dump, along with all of the garbage everywhere. If you read some messages on the tourist related forums, you will see, though they loved their visit, they tend to always mention that there was however alot of garbage and people hassling them.

Anyway, abour poverty, the government needs to implement something, as they are the only ones with the resources. Or will they rely on the DRUG DEALERS to continue to emply their youth!?

I believe that the poverty is all about the economy. We are such a two-dimensional economy. You don't have the choice to get a job in sectors that say Americans can. A young person can just about get a job anywhere if he wants to work. There are jobs in mining, forestry, manufacturing, technology .. name it. We as a country have to get more industries. A lot of people say that we have no resources. But have you every walked the streets of Silicon Valley in California? I have. All of the technology companies are clean buildings with no resources going in, but little packages of software going out for hundreds of dollars. It is almost like they are selling brain power, when they sell a computer program. Surely we as a country can do the same thing?

I believe that the poverty is all about the economy. We are such a two-dimensional economy. You don't have the choice to get a job in sectors that say Americans can. A young person can just about get a job anywhere if he wants to work. There are jobs in mining, forestry, manufacturing, technology .. name it. We as a country have to get more industries. A lot of people say that we have no resources. But have you every walked the streets of Silicon Valley in California? I have. All of the technology companies are clean buildings with no resources going in, but little packages of software going out for hundreds of dollars. It is almost like they are selling brain power, when they sell a computer program. Surely we as a country can do the same thing?


very good point indeed - and I personally sell software and digitall books via the internet. all you need to do is find out what people want to learn and package it and sell a million copies.

I have a digital bahamian cookbook that I created in 2 days and is sold online for $17 a pop.

many of the beggars are artificial because they either don't want to work or to drugged out to work.

I don't think the bahamas is a poor country at all, and becasue I work for a bank I can tell you that there are huge sums of money locked away in bahamian bank accounts.

the problem is that money can't make money if it sits in the bank. It can only help those that the banks, insurance and unions choose to lend it to.

we need to build more businesses and stop relying on jobs.

look at it this way - if you get paid $18,000 a year - roughly my salary, and saved every single penny - impossible - in 70 years, your whole lifetime, you still wouldn't have 1 million dollars.

saving money won't make you rich - the first major health problem can wipe you out. you have to invest the money - risk it, not gamble it out - shares, stocks, bonds, realty - property, rentals, etc.

build a business, not just more hotels or restaurants.

sitting on $20,000 only making the bank rich, not the nation.

instead we cling to our jobs for dear life and hoard what we don't spend keeping up witht the jones's.

we send thousands out of the country every day for numbers battling mind boggling odds, when you can plan out a descant business for less, with a much better chance of making a return on your investment.

i think the government needs to get a team of proffesional investors and allow members of the public to buy small shares and have the team invest it, and give it back to the people and reserve a part for the economy.

we just do what everyone else in the country does.

dvd stands, water trucks, 99 cent breakfast, newspaper retailers, peanut reatailers, etc.

we need outside knowledge - alternatives.

pick up a book, ask questions. stop copying

i think the government needs to get a team of proffesional investors and allow members of the public to buy small shares and have the team invest it, and give it back to the people and reserve a part for the economy.

we just do what everyone else in the country does.

dvd stands, water trucks, 99 cent breakfast, newspaper retailers, peanut reatailers, etc.

we need outside knowledge - alternatives.

pick up a book, ask questions. stop copying

All we need to do is tax the churchs and build shelters homes and food depots for the poor. No preacher has business having a million $ home.

I don't think taxing churches is going to solve the problem of poverty in the Bahamas Vicky, c'mon now be reasonable. You can say that individuals making a certain income must be subjected to higher taxes yes, but not just churches. Because the church is the building where the people go to worship, or may be considered the members of a certain faith who gather to worship. That is not who you want taxed, the pastor who is taking home a large salary is the one to be taxed.
Being a pastor is like a profession now and people make money by being the pastor of a church nowadays. So you can say implement income tax laws, but don't say tax the church because that is nonsense. Pastors maybe should be taxed, if they make a certain amount of money, along with anyone else making large sums of money, depending on how they may want to implement the law.
Income tax, may help, yes..good idea....but you have to be specific and unbiased about it.

I don't think taxing churches is going to solve the problem of poverty in the Bahamas Vicky, c'mon now be reasonable. You can say that individuals making a certain income must be subjected to higher taxes yes, but not just churches. Because the church is the building where the people go to worship, or may be considered the members of a certain faith who gather to worship. That is not who you want taxed, the pastor who is taking home a large salary is the one to be taxed.
Being a pastor is like a profession now and people make money by being the pastor of a church nowadays. So you can say implement income tax laws, but don't say tax the church because that is nonsense. Pastors maybe should be taxed, if they make a certain amount of money, along with anyone else making large sums of money, depending on how they may want to implement the law.
Income tax, may help, yes..good idea....but you have to be specific and unbiased about it.

You are right I should have said preachers not churches. But preachers are slick. They will build a million $ homes, buy fancy clothes, and cars and say it all belongs to the church.
There would have to be limits as to how much is spent on the preacher as well. If the limit is exceeded then the money that is spent on the preacher is taxed as well. Oh and the preachers should not be allowed to set the limit some out side body. A group not influenced by the preachers.

:tup:

problem is taxes were invented to take from the rich and give to the poor,
but the rich find legal loopholes, and are given breaks because they control all the money.

sorta like how people who fly a lot get frequent flyer miles.

the free miles are designed to reward all, but only the rich have the opportunity to benefit from them - as they have the free cash to fly often.

be careful what you wish for, our cost of living is too high already without additional taxes.

what i can't understand is why something from the states has to double, triple and even higher, by the time it hits our shelves.

I think our customs taxes is used up completely paying our 'jokey' government officials. They need to have elections every 2 years, and limit the amount the current government can spend.

better yet, they need to have a national poll before they spend our money.

problem is taxes were invented to take from the rich and give to the poor,
but the rich find legal loopholes, and are given breaks because they control all the money.

sorta like how people who fly a lot get frequent flyer miles.

the free miles are designed to reward all, but only the rich have the opportunity to benefit from them - as they have the free cash to fly often.

be careful what you wish for, our cost of living is too high already without additional taxes.

what i can't understand is why something from the states has to double, triple and even higher, by the time it hits our shelves.

I think our customs taxes is used up completely paying our 'jokey' government officials. They need to have elections every 2 years, and limit the amount the current government can spend.

better yet, they need to have a national poll before they spend our money.


This has nothing to do with taxing product its about taxing preachers.
Preachers that charge for their services, this concept blows me away. Preachers have a price to do weddings and a price to do funerals. They charge to do the Creators work. If preachers can set a price they should pay tax like any other business.

This has nothing to do with taxing product its about taxing preachers.
Preachers that charge for their services, this concept blows me away. Preachers have a price to do weddings and a price to do funerals. They charge to do the Creators work. If preachers can set a price they should pay tax like any other business.


agreed. but i did not pay my preacher to marry my wife, and I also was allowed to use the very large church hall and kitchen for free for my reception as well, counselling was free too.

lucky me.

agreed. but i did not pay my preacher to marry my wife, and I also was allowed to use the very large church hall and kitchen for free for my reception as well, counselling was free too.

lucky me.


My thought to this is "my preacher" maybe its because you have paid so much into the church your preacher did not have the nerve to charge you as you might get wise and leave his church as a disgruntled customer would leave a business. Remember that is only a passing thought.

Oh you still have not responded to the "Gay Israel" thread.