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Rosie O’Donnell’s Cruise
By Apostle Cedric Moss


For several weeks now we have been hearing about Rosie O’Donnell’s upcoming homosexual cruise with “family values” that is scheduled to make two port calls in the Bahamas. According to the published itinerary, the ship will stop at Little Stirrup Cay on July 15th from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and then Nassau on July 16th from 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Although the cruise is more than five months away, it is already drawing sensational attention so today I offer a kingdom perspective on it which I trust will serve as a faithful guide for the Christian community’s response.

A Big Show Down?
There are those who hold the view that the Church should seek to stop this homosexual cruise and others like it. There are others who believe the Church should stage demonstrations to protest against this cruise and homosexuality. I disagree with both views. My disagreement is not just in the present situation…I have always held this position against protesting and seeking to stop such cruises.

I clearly recall the protests against homosexual cruises a few years ago. Some protesters got into shouting matches with passengers and physical confrontations with the Police. Clearly something is wrong with those pictures because such protests misrepresent the cause of Christ and the way of His Kingdom.

What Manner of Spirit?
I am reminded of the response of Jesus to James and John when they sought His permission to call down fire on the Samaritans just because the Samaritans did not welcome them. Jesus rebuked the brothers for “not knowing the manner of spirit they were of” and reminded them that He did not come to destroy the lives of men but to save them (see Luke 9:51-56). Those who are minded to physically protest and confront this cruise and other groups they oppose should be guided by these words of Christ. If not, they should be guided by common sense: Such protests are counterproductive and do more harm than good. Their only result is to cause persons who are trapped in and blinded by the sin of homosexuality to be further alienated from Christ and His ambassadors who are supposed to be bearers of good news and not inflammatory rhetoric.

So I would urge all in the Christian community to recognize the manner of spirit we are of and pray for Rosie O’Donnell and those who will be accompanying her to hear and respond to the Gospel.

Hospitality and Honesty
We are a tourist destination and as such should be hospitable to all those who wish to visit our shores and abide by our laws and cultural standards of public conduct. However, in addition to hospitality, we need to demonstrate honesty and the Ministry of Tourism or the relevant arm of government should appropriately and clearly advise the cruise organizers of our cultural standards of public conduct to be passed on to passengers.

The sad thing is that many will object to such honest communication because they believe some homosexual tourists will choose to not come to The Bahamas. I am not speculating about this objection. I have previously mentioned the need for this kind of honest communication to homosexual tourists, and some who oppose homosexuality disagreed simply because they fear the possibility of losing homosexual tourists and the money they spend. In other words, they prefer that we continue to engage in national hypocrisy and keep quiet about our cultural norm against homosexuality because we might have to pay a financial price. It leads me to wonder if their greed exceeds their conviction against homosexuality. Clearly the strongest one will win.

Our Real Battle
Many years ago I learnt a very helpful lesson: You always have more battles to fight than you have bullets available so you must choose your battles wisely. Violating this rule of engagement means you might win unimportant battles but you will lose important ones. Bearing this in mind, the matter of homosexual cruises and land groups who come to visit our shores for a few hours or days is an unimportant battle and fighting them is a waste of bullets…our time, efforts and energies.

Our real battle is to wisely engage our efforts to ensure that when our constitution is amended, citizens of the Bahamas are given an opportunity to decide whether or not they wish to encode in our constitution the clear definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman and the prohibition of all forms of legal accommodations for same sex unions. This battle should in no way seek to infringe on the current freedoms which our constitution gives to same sex couples to associate and relate to each other however they choose. It should only seek to enshrine the boundaries of marriage in The Bahamas from any possible legal infringement.



Apostle Cedric Moss serves as Senior Pastor at Kingdom Life World Outreach Centre. Commentary and feedback may be directed to: apostle@kingdom-life.org.

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Rosie O’Donnell’s Cruise
By Apostle Cedric Moss


For several weeks now we have been hearing about Rosie O’Donnell’s upcoming homosexual cruise with “family values” that is scheduled to make two port calls in the Bahamas. According to the published itinerary, the ship will stop at Little Stirrup Cay on July 15th from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and then Nassau on July 16th from 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Although the cruise is more than five months away, it is already drawing sensational attention so today I offer a kingdom perspective on it which I trust will serve as a faithful guide for the Christian community’s response.

Hi Cedric you know I have to respond to this one. By the way did you get my last email. I kept getting an undeliverable email.

A Big Show Down?
There are those who hold the view that the Church should seek to stop this homosexual cruise and others like it. There are others who believe the Church should stage demonstrations to protest against this cruise and homosexuality. I disagree with both views. My disagreement is not just in the present situation…I have always held this position against protesting and seeking to stop such cruises.

I clearly recall the protests against homosexual cruises a few years ago. Some protesters got into shouting matches with passengers and physical confrontations with the Police. Clearly something is wrong with those pictures because such protests misrepresent the cause of Christ and the way of His Kingdom.

Here is something we can agree upon. Protesting and violence will do more harm than good. Ignorance leads to fear, fear becomes hate, hate results in violence. Leaders Political Royal and Religious since the dawn of time have used this to get an end result of what they want. Most resent was George Bush and his wanting to make war with Sadam. Where are the weapons of mass destruction????? How many people cared what Sadam was doing until the threat of the use of weapons of mass destruction. People of the world were mostly ignorant of Sadam and his weapons but Bush created fear because of this ignorance. How fast did it take for people to start hating? Next thing the bomb started falling.

What Manner of Spirit?
I am reminded of the response of Jesus to James and John when they sought His permission to call down fire on the Samaritans just because the Samaritans did not welcome them. Jesus rebuked the brothers for “not knowing the manner of spirit they were of” and reminded them that He did not come to destroy the lives of men but to save them (see Luke 9:51-56). Those who are minded to physically protest and confront this cruise and other groups they oppose should be guided by these words of Christ. If not, they should be guided by common sense: Such protests are counterproductive and do more harm than good. Their only result is to cause persons who are trapped in and blinded by the sin of homosexuality to be further alienated from Christ and His ambassadors who are supposed to be bearers of good news and not inflammatory rhetoric.

Now here you perpetuate ignorance you imply that those of us that are different choose to be different just because we choose not to live a lie to suit your ideas of how people should live


So I would urge all in the Christian community to recognize the manner of spirit we are of and pray for Rosie O’Donnell and those who will be accompanying her to hear and respond to the Gospel.

You have a good one again but I will add to it.

Leviticus 19 33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land you shall not do him wrong. The stranger who sojourns with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as your self for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am the Lord your God.”

Christ made a few references to the Samaritans. Do you know who the Samaritans were? The rest of the other Jews looked them down upon. They were outcast because their faith was practiced differently compared to the so-called normal Jews. Point here they were different, Yet Christ referred to them in his teachings. Christ stood up for the Outcast.

We will see who are the true Christians as in who tries to live as Christ did.

Yes let us pray Rosie O’Donnell and those who will be accompanying her to hear and respond to the Creator because the Creator created them as well. Because nothing can exist without the Creator creating it.


Hospitality and Honesty
We are a tourist destination and as such should be hospitable to all those who wish to visit our shores and abide by our laws and cultural standards of public conduct. However, in addition to hospitality, we need to demonstrate honesty and the Ministry of Tourism or the relevant arm of government should appropriately and clearly advise the cruise organizers of our cultural standards of public conduct to be passed on to passengers.

When you say ours you mean yours because my cultural standards are very different from yours.

The sad thing is that many will object to such honest communication because they believe some homosexual tourists will choose to not come to The Bahamas. I am not speculating about this objection. I have previously mentioned the need for this kind of honest communication to homosexual tourists, and some who oppose homosexuality disagreed simply because they fear the possibility of losing homosexual tourists and the money they spend. In other words, they prefer that we continue to engage in national hypocrisy and keep quiet about our cultural norm against homosexuality because we might have to pay a financial price. That is right we should ban every tourist that does not fit your ideals of a Christian.
It leads me to wonder if their greed exceeds their conviction against homosexuality. Clearly the strongest one will win.

Might does not make right. Look at how long and how many people were murdered by Christians because they knew bush medicine or because they were simply left handed. They were the strongest but it did not make them right.

Our Real Battle
Many years ago I learnt a very helpful lesson: You always have more battles to fight than you have bullets available so you must choose your battles wisely. Violating this rule of engagement means you might win unimportant battles but you will lose important ones. Bearing this in mind, the matter of homosexual cruises and land groups who come to visit our shores for a few hours or days is an unimportant battle and fighting them is a waste of bullets…our time, efforts and energies.

Our real battle is to wisely engage our efforts to ensure that when our constitution is amended, citizens of the Bahamas are given an opportunity to decide whether or not they wish to encode in our constitution the clear definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman and the prohibition of all forms of legal accommodations for same sex unions. This battle should in no way seek to infringe on the current freedoms which our constitution gives to same sex couples to associate and relate to each other however they choose. It should only seek to enshrine the boundaries of marriage in The Bahamas from any possible legal infringement.

Yes Yes if you believe some humans are more equal than others.
Yes Cedric right now this very day same sex couples can go to a lawyer and have documents made up that will legally combine their lives. It is already there as you have said.

Please clarify for me what part of your life will be effected by this being pre written in the Constitution as apposed to having a lawyer do it. It is a legally binding piece of paper. A loving couple same or opposite sex will still love each other with or with out a piece of paper.




Apostle Cedric Moss serves as Senior Pastor at Kingdom Life World Outreach Centre. Commentary and feedback may be directed to: apostle@kingdom-life.org.

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BONJOUR!

Dear pastor cedris ;thank you for your letter
god bless you ;forgive me for my english because it is not so good
i am a french speaking man .

in my opinion i think you have right ;as a christian we can not support this kind of thing;we must determine our position and say it aloud
because if we not say a loud it will be like compromission---

NO is answer ;so let all bahamas christians say no to this cruise who bring lack ; ---bad things
bahamas need to be bless everyday by god


so let say no no no

god bless dear apostle cedric


your french little brother

patrick kapela lonsa
















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Rosie O’Donnell’s Cruise
By Apostle Cedric Moss


For several weeks now we have been hearing about Rosie O’Donnell’s upcoming homosexual cruise with “family values” that is scheduled to make two port calls in the Bahamas. According to the published itinerary, the ship will stop at Little Stirrup Cay on July 15th from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and then Nassau on July 16th from 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Although the cruise is more than five months away, it is already drawing sensational attention so today I offer a kingdom perspective on it which I trust will serve as a faithful guide for the Christian community’s response.

A Big Show Down?
There are those who hold the view that the Church should seek to stop this homosexual cruise and others like it. There are others who believe the Church should stage demonstrations to protest against this cruise and homosexuality. I disagree with both views. My disagreement is not just in the present situation…I have always held this position against protesting and seeking to stop such cruises.

I clearly recall the protests against homosexual cruises a few years ago. Some protesters got into shouting matches with passengers and physical confrontations with the Police. Clearly something is wrong with those pictures because such protests misrepresent the cause of Christ and the way of His Kingdom.

What Manner of Spirit?
I am reminded of the response of Jesus to James and John when they sought His permission to call down fire on the Samaritans just because the Samaritans did not welcome them. Jesus rebuked the brothers for “not knowing the manner of spirit they were of” and reminded them that He did not come to destroy the lives of men but to save them (see Luke 9:51-56). Those who are minded to physically protest and confront this cruise and other groups they oppose should be guided by these words of Christ. If not, they should be guided by common sense: Such protests are counterproductive and do more harm than good. Their only result is to cause persons who are trapped in and blinded by the sin of homosexuality to be further alienated from Christ and His ambassadors who are supposed to be bearers of good news and not inflammatory rhetoric.

So I would urge all in the Christian community to recognize the manner of spirit we are of and pray for Rosie O’Donnell and those who will be accompanying her to hear and respond to the Gospel.

Hospitality and Honesty
We are a tourist destination and as such should be hospitable to all those who wish to visit our shores and abide by our laws and cultural standards of public conduct. However, in addition to hospitality, we need to demonstrate honesty and the Ministry of Tourism or the relevant arm of government should appropriately and clearly advise the cruise organizers of our cultural standards of public conduct to be passed on to passengers.

The sad thing is that many will object to such honest communication because they believe some homosexual tourists will choose to not come to The Bahamas. I am not speculating about this objection. I have previously mentioned the need for this kind of honest communication to homosexual tourists, and some who oppose homosexuality disagreed simply because they fear the possibility of losing homosexual tourists and the money they spend. In other words, they prefer that we continue to engage in national hypocrisy and keep quiet about our cultural norm against homosexuality because we might have to pay a financial price. It leads me to wonder if their greed exceeds their conviction against homosexuality. Clearly the strongest one will win.

Our Real Battle
Many years ago I learnt a very helpful lesson: You always have more battles to fight than you have bullets available so you must choose your battles wisely. Violating this rule of engagement means you might win unimportant battles but you will lose important ones. Bearing this in mind, the matter of homosexual cruises and land groups who come to visit our shores for a few hours or days is an unimportant battle and fighting them is a waste of bullets…our time, efforts and energies.

Our real battle is to wisely engage our efforts to ensure that when our constitution is amended, citizens of the Bahamas are given an opportunity to decide whether or not they wish to encode in our constitution the clear definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman and the prohibition of all forms of legal accommodations for same sex unions. This battle should in no way seek to infringe on the current freedoms which our constitution gives to same sex couples to associate and relate to each other however they choose. It should only seek to enshrine the boundaries of marriage in The Bahamas from any possible legal infringement.



Apostle Cedric Moss serves as Senior Pastor at Kingdom Life World Outreach Centre. Commentary and feedback may be directed to: apostle@kingdom-life.org.

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BONJOUR!

Dear pastor cedris ;thank you for your letter
god bless you ;forgive me for my english because it is not so good
i am a french speaking man .

in my opinion i think you have right ;as a christian we can not support this kind of thing;we must determine our position and say it aloud
because if we not say a loud it will be like compromission---

NO is answer ;so let all bahamas christians say no to this cruise who bring lack ; ---bad things
bahamas need to be bless everyday by god


so let say no no no

god bless dear apostle cedric


your french little brother

patrick kapela lonsa


Hi Patrick
Please tell me what Christ said about homosexuality???????

To be Christian is to live as Christ lived and taught.

Here is an example of difference you claim to be a Frenchman not a Bahamian see you are different too. How about religions/people that find you as an undesirable because you are different? How would you feel if Bahamians say they don't want you here because you are a Frenchman?
You see its easy to find away to dislike someone but hard to find away to like someone.
But Christ gave us a very clear command to love our neighbor as we love our self and to treat others, as we want to be treated. Can’t be simpler than that.

Vicki, like my grandad used to say, "There is silence in the grave." No echo.

Vicki, like my grandad used to say, "There is silence in the grave." No echo.


my grandad says never argue with fools!
:voodoo: