By all accounts, the FNM's Manifesto 07 pales in comparison to the PLP's Action Plan '07.

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Having read both, I am inclined to agree. To me it seems as if the FNM document was put together haphazardly, with no thought to details no sizzle.
While the PLP's document is well written and must have had collaboration with each of the ministers of the cabinet - as it speaks clearly concerning the way forward.

Now some will disregard these documents as mere posters and brochures for the two parties propaganda. But consider this, the throngs of Bahamians who attend the weekly rallies (emotive, mud-slinging concerts), only account for about 10% of the eligible voters - what do you think the other 90% use to sure up their decision?

These documents are the next best thing to a live debate between the party leaders - but that's another topic...

What say you?

dont have the time to read either ..
but which one say they moving the ramp .. :hammer:

By all accounts, the FNM's Manifesto 07 pales in comparison to the PLP's Action Plan '07.
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Having read both, I am inclined to agree. To me it seems as if the FNM document was put together haphazardly, with no thought to details no sizzle.
While the PLP's document is well written and must have had collaboration with each of the ministers of the cabinet - as it speaks clearly concerning the way forward.
Now some will disregard these documents as mere posters and brochures for the two parties propaganda. But consider this, the throngs of Bahamians who attend the weekly rallies (emotive, mud-slinging concerts), only account for about 10% of the eligible voters - what do you think the other 90% use to sure up their decision?
These documents are the next best thing to a live debate between the party leaders - but that's another topic...
What say you?


I've examined both as well and noted that one is much longer than the other. The PLP's Action Plan" is riddled with similar rhetoric that was left incomplete from their last "Action Plan". Five years in office only proved that they do have a lot of plans but there is not much action to complement them.

The FNM's Manifesto gets to the point of every issue, states the needs as they are and indicates how they will be addressed without all of the fancy trappings to increase pages that make the book a boring, useless piece of literature like that of the PLP.

If we were to compare the performance of both parties in implementing their mandates in the past then Mr. Ingraham and the Free National Movement did a far better job. One page of writing and a whole lot of work goes a far greater distance than a whole book of writing and no work.

By all accounts, the FNM's Manifesto 07 pales in comparison to the PLP's Action Plan '07.
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Having read both, I am inclined to agree. To me it seems as if the FNM document was put together haphazardly, with no thought to details no sizzle.
While the PLP's document is well written and must have had collaboration with each of the ministers of the cabinet - as it speaks clearly concerning the way forward.
Now some will disregard these documents as mere posters and brochures for the two parties propaganda. But consider this, the throngs of Bahamians who attend the weekly rallies (emotive, mud-slinging concerts), only account for about 10% of the eligible voters - what do you think the other 90% use to sure up their decision?
These documents are the next best thing to a live debate between the party leaders - but that's another topic...
What say you?

another crab get loose ,man i can wait for may 2,to colect all crab and put them in there penn....:liar:

By all accounts, the FNM's Manifesto 07 pales in comparison to the PLP's Action Plan '07.
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Having read both, I am inclined to agree. To me it seems as if the FNM document was put together haphazardly, with no thought to details no sizzle.
While the PLP's document is well written and must have had collaboration with each of the ministers of the cabinet - as it speaks clearly concerning the way forward.
Now some will disregard these documents as mere posters and brochures for the two parties propaganda. But consider this, the throngs of Bahamians who attend the weekly rallies (emotive, mud-slinging concerts), only account for about 10% of the eligible voters - what do you think the other 90% use to sure up their decision?
These documents are the next best thing to a live debate between the party leaders - but that's another topic...
What say you?


if you think that the remaining 90% use the literature given to seal the deal....then u better get on the next Air Canada flight back to Nassau, and take a look around for yourself.

heard Toronto's weather is pretty mild right about now. enjoy it, b/c it's hot as bloody hell down here.

.. A boring useless piece of literature???

Cheif, we talkin' bout a political party presenting its platform in written form, not a travel brochure!!! Kill da pictures, I wanna know what yinnna ga do so when I gatty take sumbudy ta court I could fling down a document.


They both need to come up higha!

I think i had mentioned this before, the FNMs manifesto promises more than it delivers. The agenda is wrought with glittering generalities and too many one liners.

I think i had mentioned this before, the FNMs manifesto promises more than it delivers. The agenda is wrought with glittering generalities and too many one liners.


well, until they get put into office, everything written is a promise. same with ACTION AGENDA.

I've examined both as well and noted that one is much longer than the other. The PLP's Action Plan" is riddled with similar rhetoric that was left incomplete from their last "Action Plan". Five years in office only proved that they do have a lot of plans but there is not much action to complement them.
The FNM's Manifesto gets to the point of every issue, states the needs as they are and indicates how they will be addressed without all of the fancy trappings to increase pages that make the book a boring, useless piece of literature like that of the PLP.
If we were to compare the performance of both parties in implementing their mandates in the past then Mr. Ingraham and the Free National Movement did a far better job. One page of writing and a whole lot of work goes a far greater distance than a whole book of writing and no work.



I agree, people keep on talking about Hubert dis and Hubert dat but it all boils down to...WAS THE JOB DONE? And the answer is yes!!!!

Think about it in your professions, 9 out of 10 your boss don't give a rat's hairy butt if you don't like Steve down in accounting or Susy in marketing as long as you don't have a physical fight and break up any furniture ( pun intended). They only want the job to get DONE...the same goes for us...as the public...who gets the job done....HUBERT INGRAHAM.

I agree, people keep on talking about Hubert dis and Hubert dat but it all boils down to...WAS THE JOB DONE? And the answer is yes!!!!
Think about it in your professions, 9 out of 10 your boss don't give a rat's hairy butt if you don't like Steve down in accounting or Susy in marketing as long as you don't have a physical fight and break up any furniture ( pun intended). They only want the job to get DONE...the same goes for us...as the public...who gets the job done....HUBERT INGRAHAM.


The job of messing things up got done absolutely. Things got not done faster than ever.
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another crab get loose ,man i can wait for may 2,to colect all crab and put them in there penn....:liar:

CRABS POWER ....MO' CRABS.....bro the crabs we have can NEVER Fit In Any PENN cause we all ova the place. NO TURNING BACK NOT NOW OR EVER........

CRABS POWER ....MO' CRABS.....bro the crabs we have can NEVER Fit In Any PENN cause we all ova the place. NO TURNING BACK NOT NOW OR EVER........


I don't like crabs. From what I hear, only a trip to the doctor can get rid of them for good.
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I think i had mentioned this before, the FNMs manifesto promises more than it delivers. The agenda is wrought with glittering generalities and too many one liners.


Every now and then I read your contributions to the political debates that are entered here and I have to remind myself that your agenda is similar to that of Steve McKinney's, i.e. to keep the Progressive Liberal Party in power at all cost even it means ignoring what is reality.

Manifestos 1992 and 1997 were carried out to the letter. The Government of that time led by Mr. Ingraham sought to prove that governing was more about work and less about the glitz, glamour and treachery that the PLP misfits that were in office made it out to be.

When the Free National Movement Party was evicted from office in 2002 it wasn't because they weren't getting the job done. People just weren't prepared to have Tommy Turnquest and the Referendum stuffed down their throats. The banking laws (that the PLP promised to repeal once elected) had done enough damage in giving the general populace the impression that the FNM Government was making decisions without first consulting them. Note that the implementation of these laws had not been agreed to between the people and the Government in any of the Manifestos.

Barring that, the FNM's record in office is one of excellence that cannot be denied by any right and fair thinking Bahamian. The PLP's first term in office is extremely dismal in comparison to that of the FNM. Unlike the PLP who promised more than they could deliver, the FNM delivered more than they promised and, today, because of these 'deliveries', in spite of the screw ups under this present administration, our country still floats because of the FNM Government's work.

Perry Christie and the PLP is in no position to challenge the FNM on competency while in office. I'm flabbergasted when I hear them telling people that the PLP's record speaks for itself and I'm still wondering what record they speak of. I certainly hope it isn't the record of scandals that has dogged their governance during their tenure in office. I hope it's not the broken down houses in the new housing subdvisions. I hope they're not referring to the fast-tracking of the permanent residency status for the dead celebrity. I hope they're not referring to the swift justice program where judges are retiring and, now, suing the Government and, worst yet, considering the fact that no magistrate has been to South Andros in over a year and a half to deal with the mounting cases. I could go on but I'll ask you - what record!?! The invisible "unprecedented" twenty-billion-dollar-investment record!?!

I've said it before and I'll say it again - one page of promises with a whole lot of work done to keep them is better than a whole book of promises and no commitment to work to keep them.

Every now and then I read your contributions to the political debates that are entered here and I have to remind myself that your agenda is similar to that of Steve McKinney's, i.e. to keep the Progressive Liberal Party in power at all cost even it means ignoring what is reality.
Started the thread with gross mis-characterizations. I should not even speak to you, but since you insist.

Manifestos 1992 and 1997 were carried out to the letter. The Government of that time led by Mr. Ingraham sought to prove that governing was more about work and less about the glitz, glamour and treachery that the PLP misfits that were in office made it out to be.
This is TYPICAL of the glittering one liners, and half-statements with no substantation which is wrought in the Manifesto today, and the one before this. The reason why they got something done, was because it was so scant and so light that a jack-azz from the loony bin, could have done it in their sleep. With that, more things in my opinion got falked up in their tenure, than it actually got dome with sense; education, banking and the civil service got no justice.

When the Free National Movement Party was evicted from office in 2002 it wasn't because they weren't getting the job done. People just weren't prepared to have Tommy Turnquest and the Referendum stuffed down their throats.
True.

The banking laws (that the PLP promised to repeal once elected) had done enough damage in giving the general populace the impression that the FNM Government was making decisions without first consulting them. Note that the implementation of these laws had not been agreed to between the people and the Government in any of the Manifestos.
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Barring that, the FNM's record in office is one of excellence that cannot be denied by any right and fair thinking Bahamian.
I have a few issues. Indeed.

The PLP's first term in office is extremely dismal in comparison to that of the FNM.
I disagree. Urban Renewal, Anchor Developments take time. Civil Service reform take time. True reform and acheivements take time in these areas. I blame the PLP for not speaking the truth to how long it takes, but to seriously undo the gross damages to this economy and social structure, the FNM perpetuated under their regime and what Pindling had let slip away, takes time and this PLP has started us in the right direction.

Unlike the PLP who promised more than they could deliver, the FNM delivered more than they promised and, today, because of these 'deliveries', in spite of the screw ups under this present administration, our country still floats because of the FNM Government's work.
The FNM did what they are doing now. Not promising you anything, in the hopes that something pans out. Of course they can say that in their manifesto, most things got done; because it was very little promised, so you can get that done alot easier.
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Perry Christie and the PLP is in no position to challenge the FNM on competency while in office. I'm flabbergasted when I hear them telling people that the PLP's record speaks for itself and I'm still wondering what record they speak of. I certainly hope it isn't the record of scandals that has dogged their governance during their tenure in office.
Scandal does not equate to performance. Long term planning, does not measure up to the scandal they have been unproportionately tainted with, in regards to the FNM scandals. HI ran it like a tyrant, and fired who he saw fit. Perry runs it like a good-nick and gets ramshackled. Both ends are wrong. We need a better measured approach.

I hope it's not the broken down houses in the new housing subdvisions. I hope they're not referring to the fast-tracking of the permanent residency status for the dead celebrity.
The Bahamian people are proud of their houses. With that, the FNM gave a visa to an international convict; Kozeny.

I hope they're not referring to the swift justice program where judges are retiring and, now, suing the Government and, worst yet, considering the fact that no magistrate has been to South Andros in over a year and a half to deal with the mounting cases.
Sure enough you mean to say Justice Reform. Well for that, there is no reply. Because the performance of Allyson Maynard has been pitiful.

I could go on but I'll ask you - what record!?! The invisible "unprecedented" twenty-billion-dollar-investment record!?!
It takes time. But the thing is, if the FNM comes to power, they will brag about what they done that the PLP put in place.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - one page of promises with a whole lot of work done to keep them is better than a whole book of promises and no commitment to work to keep them.

Bullsh1t. I do not want a promise, I want to have an idea of a better future for the Bahamas. It is not about who gets what done the fastest, but who gets the best job done for all of us. That in my opinion, has not been seen evident in the FNM of yeasteryear, nor of the FNM this time around.
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well, until they get put into office, everything written is a promise. same with ACTION AGENDA.


True. But, the PLP has more outlined measures to how it can be done. They just have not conceptualized the time it would take. This is my problem.
However, I think that the FNM does things, and if it pans out its like "ok", we did not mess that one up. With the Action Plan by the PLP, you see clear steps in detail to what needs to be done and why. No fudging the issue. No sappy one liners and no glittering statmements. Detailed to some extent, allbeit it promoses more of the same thing; commisions, review teams blah blah blah...

Something HAS to be cut and straight sometimes. Everything does not need a review.