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pharoah
04-28-07, - 09:08 AM
http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/298698555855370.php


Armed forces vote

By TAMARA McKENZIE, Guardian Political Editor

tamara@nasguard.com

The orders of Police Commissioner Paul Farqu-harson were blatantly defied Thursday as scores of officers who are members of the Police Staff Association sported their red shirts at various locations during yesterday's advanced poll. The shirts were in direct violation of the commissioner's warning not to wear them.

Yesterday Deputy Commis-sioner of Police John Rolle vowed that following an investigation, those officers who dissobeyed the commissioner's order will be "dealt with."

"It is a matter that will be investigated. The commissioner made an order and if anyone breaches the order, then they will be dealt with," said Rolle in a phone interview with The Guardian on Thursday.

Farquharson had reportedly advised the association in a letter earlier this week not to wear their red association t-shirts throughout the political season, in addition to any t-shirts that were yellow. It is believed that the move would signify that officers were not being neutral, and were supporting the Progressive Liberal Party or the Free National Movement.

Farquharson told The Guardian that if a report is made on the defiant officers, he is sure that the "appropriate" response would follow, and he would have Deputy Commissioner Rolle, who is the "disciplinarian" of the Force, investigate the matter. He said policemen are held to a higher standard and that the memo he issued earlier this week speaks for itself. The memo urged officers to continue to perform their duties professionally. But when asked if it was against the law for officers to wear the red shirts, he reiterated that the police were held to a higher standard referred the Guardian to the contents of his memo issued earlier this week, which urged officers to continue to perform their duties professionally and in accordance with the oath that they are sworn to uphold.

Chairman of the Police Staff Association, Inspector Bradley Sands, said most of his executive members and some board members — about 33 officers — all wore their red shirts Thursday, including himself. An obviously irate Sands said he was "offended" that the country was not focusing on more pressing issues that were facing police officers, such as proper health care, risk allowance and salaries. The association has also sought the counsel of top constitutional lawyer Damien Gomez, who told The Guardian earlier this week that he would take action on behalf of officers if they are penalized by higher ranks in the Force for wearing their red shirts.

"Everybody is complaining about the color of our shirts, but for God's sake, give us some health insurance," Sands charged. "Nobody is dealing with the fact that we have senior police officers that are busy campaigning for the Progressive Liberal Party. We have police officers who are riding around in Urban Renewal cars, campaigning for the PLP, and there are senior police officers who are assigned to be paid at rallies but they are dancing up on the stage," Sands alleged, yet, he added that everyone was putting an emphasis on the red shirts of the Association. Shirts, which he said were worn on two occasions last year.

Sands said even though members of the Association are police officers, their Constitutional rights should not be "flushed down the toilet" and the Police Act does is not rise above the Constitution. "The first thing we are taught in the police training college, is that the Constitution is the supreme law of The Bahamas, and you simply cannot violate people's rights because they wear a uniform, you just can't and I have a major problem with this."

Sunnyjohn
04-28-07, - 10:00 AM
The police should not be using Police vechicles for campaign purposes.

ghettosnob
04-28-07, - 05:22 PM
Why would the Commissioner be focusing on what t-shirt they wear anyway. I mean, like officer Sands said and the entire Bahamas knows, don't they have more pressing issues they should attend to?

And why are police officers out campaigning when they should be out fighting crime? Didn't we record our 30th murder for the year this week?

pharoah
04-28-07, - 05:37 PM
The reason why the police are rebeling is due to the fact that the big wig in the police force are bad examples. Leader must not only give orders they must also live by it themselves.

I don't particularly agree with the police to wear their association shirt that happened to be red but the police must try when possible to not give the appearance of favor one way or the other.

But like i said earlier the big wigs from the commissioner down must also observe such protocol.

ghettosnob
04-28-07, - 05:46 PM
Pharoah I agree that the Police should appear to be impartial, but as far as I'm concerned that memo was a PLP DIRECTIVE! What colour are the Police Association shirts? RED. Who do you think would be worried about the Police showing up at the polls wearing red shirts? Mudda Pratt and dem. And then they tell them not to wear yellow either to make it seem like they were only tryin to be "impartial". Yeah RIGHT!

These the same officers who gettin dispatched to crooked MP's campaign office to protect them while they dishin out money to buy votes.

Why they investigatin who was wearing what colour when we gat people gettin gun down in front of their children every other day?

pharoah
04-28-07, - 05:50 PM
Pharoah I agree that the Police should appear to be impartial, but as far as I'm concerned that memo was a PLP DIRECTIVE! What colour are the Police Association shirts? RED. Who do you think would be worried about the Police showing up at the poles wearing red shirts? Mudda Pratt and dem. And then they tell them not to wear yellow either to make it seem like they were only tryin to be "impartial". Yeah RIGHT!
These the same officers who gettin dispatched to crooked MP's campaign office to protect them while they dishin out money to buy votes.
Why they investigatin who was wearing what colour when we gat people gettin gun down in front of their children every other day?

Yes, i am aware of this pocket of corrupt cops, when the FNM wins, I hope Hubert have the courage to do what he must!

bigyouth
04-28-07, - 05:51 PM
Why would the Commissioner be focusing on what t-shirt they wear anyway. I mean, like officer Sands said and the entire Bahamas knows, don't they have more pressing issues they should attend to?
And why are police officers out campaigning when they should be out fighting crime? Didn't we record our 30th murder for the year this week?
The Police ACT states that police officer must enforce the laws of The Bahamas "without fear or FAVOR".They work for The Government and people of The Bahamas and NOT any particular party.Get it?!?This is NOT Cuba,Haiti,China or North Korea.

This NOT a police state--at least the last time I checked.They should all be forfeited a days pay and reprimanded.:dgi:

Melody
04-28-07, - 05:53 PM
Pharoah I agree that the Police should appear to be impartial, but as far as I'm concerned that memo was a PLP DIRECTIVE! What colour are the Police Association shirts? RED. Who do you think would be worried about the Police showing up at the poles wearing red shirts? Mudda Pratt and dem. And then they tell them not to wear yellow either to make it seem like they were only tryin to be "impartial". Yeah RIGHT!
These the same officers who gettin dispatched to crooked MP's campaign office to protect them while they dishin out money to buy votes.
Why they investigatin who was wearing what colour when we gat people gettin gun down in front of their children every other day?


You are quite right. we were given a memo about political activity as laid out by general orders and it says nothing about colors it only speaks to adoption of a politicaql party. In this land of freedom we must be careful that we don't allow our constitutional rights to be trampled on. The police officers were off and on their personal time. Paul did not say that that had to come from the PLP.

The plp only making thigs bad for themselves...now many people see that they are the same spiteful vindictive people from before. It ain't long now.

pharoah
04-28-07, - 05:55 PM
The Police ACT states that police officer must enforce the laws of The Bahamas "without fear or FAVOR".They work for The Government and people of The Bahamas and NOT any particular party.Get it?!?This is NOT Cuba,Haiti,China or North Korea.
This NOT a police state--at least the last time I checked.They should all be forfeited a days pay and reprimanded.:dgi:

While you at it could you go over to the FNM statement on ZNS thread and express there a similar sentiments as the one above! Thanks in advance.:footmouth

ghettosnob
04-28-07, - 05:59 PM
The Police ACT states that police officer must enforce the laws of The Bahamas "without fear or FAVOR".They work for The Government and people of The Bahamas and NOT any particular party.Get it?!?This is NOT Cuba,Haiti,China or North Korea.
This NOT a police state--at least the last time I checked.They should all be forfeited a days pay and reprimanded.:dgi:


So should those who are out campaigning on government time. They need to investigate THAT!

Don't you see the inequity in that? You investigating the officers for wearing a red t-shirt that don't even have FNM on it, and at the same time allowing other officers to use governemnt vehicle and government gas to campaign for PLP?

pharoah
04-28-07, - 06:05 PM
So should those who are out campaigning on government time. They need to investigate THAT!
Don't you see the inequity in that? You investigating the officers for wearing a red t-shirt that don't even have FNM on it, and at the same time allowing other officers to use governemnt vehicle and government gas to campaign for PLP?

It is call share corruption and hypocrisy. It undermines the force.

bigyouth
04-28-07, - 06:07 PM
While you at it could you go over to the FNM statement on ZNS thread and express there a similar sentiments as the one above! Thanks in advance.:footmouth
Hey,police officers swore an oath to g-d on the the bible to what I just posted above.ZNS may be propaganda tool,but ZNS workers swore to no-one and they are NOT part of a diciplined,armed force(I am NOT condoning what they do)

The Defence Force (as a group)will NEVER,EVER do such unprofessional,stupid,seditious and fascist nonsense.:realmad:

pharoah
04-28-07, - 06:11 PM
Hey,police swear an oath g-d on the the bible to what I just posted above.ZNS may be propaganda tool,but ZNS workers swore to no-one and they are NOT part of a diciplined,armed force(I am NOT condoning what they do)
The Defence Force (as a group)will NEVER,EVER do such unprofessional,stupid,seditious and fascist nonsense.:realmad:

Hmmmm. So tell me, is ZNS funded by the Bahamian people? Now if the answer is yes, then ZNS is wrong to allow one party to hog up the national airwaves! Now just go to the thread and condemn them for the record. Ok.

bigyouth
04-28-07, - 08:20 PM
Hmmmm. So tell me, is ZNS funded by the Bahamian people? Now if the answer is yes, then ZNS is wrong to allow one party to hog up the national airwaves! Now just go to the thread and condemn them for the record. Ok.
I am glad you replied to my post.Speaking of censorship,it was YOU who deleted my post yesterday.:hammer:

I will condemn them when you replace MY POST!!!:voodoo:

bigyouth
04-28-07, - 08:33 PM
So should those who are out campaigning on government time. They need to investigate THAT!
Don't you see the inequity in that? You investigating the officers for wearing a red t-shirt that don't even have FNM on it, and at the same time allowing other officers to use governemnt vehicle and government gas to campaign for PLP?
All should be disciplined!:realmad: :realmad: :realmad: