I have to make mention, stemming from the thread talking about PLP racism.
Where is the racism claim comming from? And why are you branding the sensible people in the PLP with this utterly ridiculous claim?

For me at least, in relation to Brent Symonette, I have said that I like him as a leader, but he has not addressed any concerns for the Bahamian people; especially the majority who still need help.

Now I am not a racist for speaking to that, but I think Brent has been less of a deputy leader "whatever", if he does not speak in a way that speaks to and for the Bahamian experience."WITH THAT, HE HAS BEEN NON EXISTANT" My goodness, the PLP who are as majority as ever, have not been able to articulate that sentiment well since 88, so how does the FNM with Brent Symonnette as its deputy, plan to fix the gap in communication?

Do not forget that the reason Turnquest was rejected, was because he was a silver spooned lad, who was out of touch with the issues. With this now, you are going to pick a silver spooned man from even a different background, whos parentage is not even of the same ethnicity? If you had a problem with Turnquest, you would certainly have a problem and even more of a problem with Symonette.

Symonnette in my opinion has been VERY WEAK AND SCANT on the issues. He gets up on a podium, gives a song and dance about his father, his brother, and then says he fixes a few roads..blah blah blah. My thing is that he is a multi-millionaire, he can have this entire country paved and not miss it from his account. But yet again, "some" of the people in his constituency need tangible help, and not some hand-out which will be fritted away by next month. Paving roads and clearing a few bushes do not help people...ya dig!!?!

Even moreso, I just do not see a credible alternative way for progress from the FNM in their manifesto quite frankly.

On another tone, especially with all of the "afro-centric" rhetoric this election season, HAS ANYONE STOPPED TO NOTICE THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL YEAR FOR BLACK WESTERN AND AFRICANS???
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http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=30576&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

I think we have celebrated this momentous year very very weak. And the race baiters and false criers on the side of FNM, have caused us to not celebrate it in the fashion where we can be comfortable with it. This has made me ANGRY, to say the very least. They have spoiled this year for me in particular, in regards to the slave trade and afro-caribbean togetherness.
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If you do not know or acknowledge your past, you are doomed to repeat it in your future. This leads me to another post I had, in regards to us dissing our Caribbean friends and the like. The Bahamas is painting itself into a corner, and it is not the majority pushing this wrong move, it is that big money support which are distorting the issues at thee wrong time, all for power and ill regard for the "Bahamian" way. I have never seen some many filthy erroneous rhetoric from the FNM in all of my life, along with their additional big-money friends. They want win at any cost, and it is not because they have any tangible plan as I have said before. And what is even more astounding, the same things they call the PLP wrong for...THE FNM ARE STEEPED IN THE VERY SAME CULTURAL PRACTICE!!! Racism, corruption and high-end money dealings...Sands on the money, Turnquest and Foulkes in the contract scandal and Cable Bahamas incident (which no one has gotten to the bottom of yet)

I do not understand for the life of me, how the PLP has allowed the FNM to brand them with such stupidity that they perpetuate. Election season brings out the worst in some of us, and from what I gather, the worst is seen in the FNM supporters.

Whoever wins, please allow the Bahamian people to celebrate the abolotion of slavery with their brothers and sisters of Africa and the Caribbean, if there is anything that we share in common, it is that and we should remember that....

Jarret has spoken on more94...he knows who supports who. The Bahamas better be careful, because as seen in GB/Port..."these people" are not into you. They buy BOTH SIDES when it serves their purpose, just that this time, they are buying the FNM in hopes of controlling the government...a very weak controlled power structure in the FNM, if they are come into power in May. We see now, the PLP has not given them their wish to make more money at the people's expense, yet the PLP was branded with that as well "I say that, because why else would they be angry??:taped2: "..If you were getting what you wanted, you would not need to support the other side right?

Both sides are guilty, but give the PLP credit for actually trying to do something for the small man/ NHI, Anchor Developments and Urban Renewal. With that, every major heads of agreement plan has a "social contract" with the Bahamian people, to assist with social programmes. The damn things just need to START!

I will go on the record, and say with my honest opinion, that I would find it hard to support the FNM in this state. Other people can support them willingly if they like, but for me quite frankly, for all the reasons above, would not think about supporting the FNM in thier current state, over the PLP or in fact even the BDM.
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.....Whoever wins, please allow the Bahamian people to celebrate the abolotion of slavery with their brothers and sisters of Africa and the Caribbean, if there is anything that we share in common, it is that and we should remember that....

I wonder how the rest of the world is getting on with the celebrations? Does anyone know? From what I hear from a friend in London Eng. they are doing more than we in that direction.

I wonder how the rest of the world is getting on with the celebrations? Does anyone know? From what I hear from a friend in London Eng. they are doing more than we in that direction.

IT WAS HUGE. I was on hand for some of the events in the U.K., and have heard good response from places in Africa and the Caribbean alike.

It still is huge, as it is a montentous occasion. Not only is it celebrating history, but it is a chance for continued joint partnership. A partnership we were forced to divorce ourselves from, due to the political firestorm around the CSME in particular. We should not have gone into wholesale, but we should have put ourselves in a better position to be in the mix, and influence the procededings to our advantage.

IT WAS HUGE. I was on hand for some of the events in the U.K., and have heard good response from places in Africa and the Caribbean alike.
It still is huge, as it is a montentous occasion. Not only is it celebrating history, but it is a chance for continued joint partnership.....
Shame we are missing out on histoy and a chance to make history. :dgi:

Shame we are missing out on histoy and a chance to make history. :dgi:


Because we let some race baiters, bully us into not acknowledging whole heartedly our history and heriatge. I think that is a damn shame, and the power hungy spin doctors should be shot on site. In every other sensible society, people acknowlegde their past...the U.S. acknowledges the @Civil war and the Revolution. The U.K. acknowledges their rich "global" enteprise....

I am dissapointed with this, and I am afraid for this country on so many levels...really and truly I am.

Because we let some race baiters, bully us into not acknowledging whole heartedly our history and heriatge. I think that is a damn shame, and the power hungy spin doctors should be shot on site.
I am dissapointed with this, and I am afraid for this country on so many levels...really and truly I am.

A strong government would not allow it to happen.

A strong government would not allow it to happen.


This is where I disagree. The informal tides of any culture, prevail over all else including the rules. The control of how things appear to be, in this country, is alot more powerful than the way it is or should be. We have seen this.

A strong government is relative. It is in relation to what people are willing to allow people to get away with. With that, the race issue in this regard, is taunted without any regard to the way people in this town live. With that, comparing politics to a social and historical consciousness are two different things. This was hyped and fervoured as race, and if it kept on going, it was going to mushroom into more of it; you yourself have problem with them having it, or acknowledging it yourself, and now you call them weak for backing down. The election season, and for what garbage people are willing to let solidify in their brains, caused this to go awry.

A strong government does not even come into play here. Because it is all a matter of priority first, and then, it comes down to who is willing to stick into what. Considering the discomfort it was causing, backing down amidst even the more erroneous and false pressure was the right thing to do. Even if we missed out on a greater position.

Sometimes, in order to take the high-road for the mental welfare of the nation, you have to take a back-seat to waht is right for a better more glorified purpose. The greater right, cancelled out the righteous right.
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you yourself have problem with them having it, or acknowledging it yourself,

Where did I say that? I am sure I express regret that it is not happening.

Where did I say that? I am sure I express regret that it is not happening.


Well I must have been confusing you with this thread...
http://bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=422&page=4&highlight=cg+race

And also your thoughts on this..
http://bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=6402&page=3&highlight=cg+race

You expressing regret, and at the same time not acknowledging its reason are conclicting sentiments. You have to express regret for something, if you fail to acknowlegde that there was an issue, and that we have to remember what we are as a total people, your expressing regret is weak and not felt by me at least.
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If you are not with us, you are with the enemy. There have been very great men, white black and hispanic, involved in the struggle for equality. You should realize that from our perspective at least, it is not about hate and segregation, is is about respect and equality for all.

Well I must have been confusing you with this thread...
http://bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=422&page=4&highlight=cg+race
And also your thoughts on this..
http://bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=6402&page=3&highlight=cg+race
You expressing regret, and at the same time not acknowledging its reason are conclicting sentiments. You have to express regret for something, if you fail to acknowlegde that there was an issue, and that we have to remember what we are as a total people, your expressing regret is weak and not felt by me at least.
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If you are not with us, you are with the enemy. There have been very great men, white black and hispanic, involved in the struggle for equality. You should realize that from our perspective at least, it is not about hate and segregation, is is about respect and equality for all.

The regret I was referring to was that were are not as fully participating in the celebrations as we could be. I put this down to the government buckling to pressure.

* looks at the nanny here then walks back out of thread *

I feel for you Y2Kbad. Like you I once supported the PLP. But let's be honest the party has a history of bringing up the black versus white history of the bahamas.

This stuff with brent Symonette is very obvious. Everyone can see through it and those of us who supported the PLP know it has traditionally been used.

We must be truthful with ourselves, we cannot contiue to fool sensible people, we only really fool ourselves.

Our country cannot survive in the global marketplace if people see us blatantly using the race card.

Every investor we have is lilly white, don't you think they will react to this even though while they are actively investing they may play like they dont see it.

Lets be truthful with ourselves and then maybe we can all work together for a better Bahamas.

Come on and be a man (or Woman) and admit it, we all know the PLP is playing the race card, lets tell them to stop it and maybe they will get some of the swing vote that they may need in this election and certainly some support for their policies should they win. Otherwise its a fool's paradise to believe that folks don't see through their antics.

Dr. Paul Reilly is no fool and the people listening and reading his words are certainly important credible people, the kind we need for the survival and competitive progress of the Bahamas in the global community.

Love ya, hope you see my point. Let's work together.

The regret I was referring to was that were are not as fully participating in the celebrations as we could be. I put this down to the government buckling to pressure.


Nope. I put this down to a government, trying to bring peace to a heated situation. They did not buckle, the FNM folks just made it racial. That was bad and sad.
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I feel for you Y2Kbad. Like you I once supported the PLP. But let's be honest the party has a history of bringing up the black versus white history of the bahamas.
This stuff with brent Symonette is very obvious. Everyone can see through it and those of us who supported the PLP know it has traditionally been used.
We must be truthful with ourselves, we cannot contiue to fool sensible people, we only really fool ourselves.
Our country cannot survive in the global marketplace if people see us blatantly using the race card.
Every investor we have is lilly white, don't you think they will react to this even though while they are actively investing they may play like they dont see it.
Lets be truthful with ourselves and then maybe we can all work together for a better Bahamas.
Come on and be a man (or Woman) and admit it, we all know the PLP is playing the race card, lets tell them to stop it and maybe they will get some of the swing vote that they may need in this election and certainly some support for their policies should they win. Otherwise its a fool's paradise to believe that folks don't see through their antics.
Dr. Paul Reilly is no fool and the people listening and reading his words are certainly important credible people, the kind we need for the survival and competitive progress of the Bahamas in the global community.
Love ya, hope you see my point. Let's work together.


I have an issue with Symonette, and it is because of what he represents; and that is not in sync with the Bahamian people by his background, with that, he has spoken nothing but glittering generalities this entire campaign. He has not said anything tangible YET. This is why people say he is NON EXISTANT, because he has not truly said a thing about helping you people; aside from paving a road or two.

I expect much more.
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I expect him to dilneate a comprehensive plan for Bahamian entrep[enuership
I expect him to speak on the black Caribbean male situation in this country.
I expect him to speak clearly and understandably on Caribbean affairs, and getting along with the other Caribbean nations.
I expect to hear his views for development.
I expect him to make a comment on understanding the females in this country...

So far...NOTHING!

Speeches are for Bulls1tters.