I know this is a bit of a spoof but maybe it will make some of you think.

Oh and Cedirc check out the first 1.



Subject: Draft of a Constitutional Amendment to Defend Biblical Marriage

As certain politicians work diligently to prevent marriage between two
people of the same sex, others of us have been busy drafting a
Constitutional Amendment codifying all marriages entirely on Biblical
principles. After all, God wouldn't want us to "pick and choose" which of
the Scriptures we elevate to civil law and which we choose to ignore:

Draft of a Constitutional Amendment to Defend Biblical Marriage:

Marriage in the United States of America shall consist of a union
between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5.)

Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition
to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a
virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3;
Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30, 2Cor 6:14)

Since marriage is for life, neither the US Constitution nor any state law
shall permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9-12)

If a married man dies without children, his brother must marry the
widow. If the brother refuses to marry the widow, or deliberately does not give
her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a
manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

In lieu of marriage (if there are no acceptable men to be found), a
woman shall get her father drunk and have sex with him. (Gen 19:31-36)

I hope this helps to clarify the finer details of the Government's
righteous struggle against the infidels and heathens among us
righteous struggle against the infidels and heathens among us

Wow! :eek: The Bible is indeed double edged sword! That can cut in anyway the wielder wishes. :yoyo:

Wow! :eek: The Bible is indeed double edged sword! That can cut in anyway the wielder wishes. :yoyo:

Yeah, it lets all of these bible pounders see just how dangerous the tool they use could be used to pound them.
Justice

Vicky,

What you don't know will hurt you.
It is so clear that you do not understand the word of God. Let me give you a little hint: Never use the word for your own agenda because by it you were created and by it you can be destroyed.

Moses wrote the Law but the Grace God exceeds the Law through Jesus Christ.
Jesus brought Grace and Truth (not religion or condemnation).
The Truth that Jesus brought clarified the Law.
Through Jesus we know and understand God.
Because of the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross we are no longer condemned by the Law but are now under Gods' Grace.

Here is the definition of Grace:
- A favor rendered by one who need not do so; indulgence. -

Vicky,
You and I are under Grace along with everyone else in this world.
If it were not so we all would have been condemned by those same Laws that you quoted. It is a "Favor" like the definition says; A favor from God (one who need not do so ) because of JESUS.

We shouldn't indulge in it like allot of people are doing today because when we do so it gives a false impression that the Law doesn't exist (which is not true). The Law still exist because Jesus never removed it; He only fulfilled it. Therefore Grace given to us is temporary!

Here is another definition of Grace:
- A temporary immunity or exemption; a reprieve. -

God can decide at anytime when you have exceeded His Grace.
The only result after this is death.

Think about it.

What you don't know will hurt you.


I could not agree more! For both sides of the issue.

I was told a lot of one-dimensional thinking was going on at this site.

Whoever you are Delroy, you could be here arguing the Bible until thy Kingdom come with people. The Bahamas, as is all democracies, are a country of laws. This is not a religious state and therefore the Bible is not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. And since the Constitution guarantees equal rights for all Bahamians then equal rights should be afforded to all Bahamians, gay and straight. So everyone should be able to marry the person they chose. That is true equality.

Justice

February 27, 2004

Letter to Rosie O’Donnell

Dear Rosie,

I want to thank you for that important trip you made to San Francisco on February 26, 2004 to marry your long-time girlfriend. It was truly an inspiration for me to see you both kiss after the President of your country made statements that seemed so insensitive to gay people all over the world.

Even though I am not an American, George Bush really hurt me when he said he would support a constitutional amendment BANNING gay marriage in the United States. He also said he would work to see that such an amendment is drafted soon. Not only was it hurtful but it was also very shocking to hear the leader of the world’s lone superpower say such a thing, using the word BAN, which means to exclude, to reject and a host of other synonyms to make a person feel unequal and unwelcome in society.

You on the other hand, by getting married publicly for the world to see, made me feel so proud to be gay. You also made courageous statements; standing up to President Bush. I wish more celebrities would do the same.

If you are not about to do so, I hope you would personally visit The Bahamas when your family gay cruise docks in Nassau in July. I look forward to meeting you personally. Hopefully someday Bahamian gays and lesbians would be able to marry their partners as well.

Because American television is seen the world over, you are not just fighting for gay people in America, you are fighting for gay people all over the world. Thank you very much.


Justice
Nassau, Bahamas

This is very interesting stuff..it just re-inforces in my mind what a joke the entire debate against gay marriage is. And the people who agree and follow up these politicians and soothsayers..what does that say about them? It is true that people who claim to follow Christ pay very little attention to what Christ tried to teach people of that day. We are still reactionary and silly. Still puffed up about appearances while ignoring reality. What can we do? The gay debate is not important enough to be dividing people over. All citizens must have the same protections and rights and should be able to share thier life and their worldly posessions with who ever they wish. Children, and the incompetent must be protected however. God bless the Bahamas and help us to use the brain that he gave us. If we used it more we would have no need to call on him for intervention as much as we do...

Hi Delroy you have said a mouth full.

Vicky,

What you don't know will hurt you. Yeah like when Columbus sailed off the end of the earth.
It is so clear that you do not understand the word of God. May be I understand better than most people think. I question the traditional belief. Then I look for answers. I will ask you to think who understood the law better Christ or the Pharisees and Sadducees. Let me give you a little hint: Never use the word for your own agenda because by it you were created and by it you can be destroyed. So then whose agenda is it when so called Christians use it to justify murder thievery and discrimination. Whose agenda was it to push the idea that Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality? Whose agenda was it to kill and torment discriminate and dehumanize left-handed people.

Moses wrote the Law but the Grace God exceeds the Law through Jesus Christ.
Jesus brought Grace and Truth (not religion or condemnation).
The Truth that Jesus brought clarified the Law.
Through Jesus we know and understand God.
Because of the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross we are no longer condemned by the Law but are now under Gods' Grace.
The Law of Moses is the Holiness Code. What is the purpose of the Holiness Code? Jesus protested and defied the law on many occasions. He stopped the execution of a woman he worked on the Sabbath.
Christ was called a drunkard or a bibber of wine he was called a glutton he was a friend to sinners and tax collectors. Not to mention he was also referred to as her.

Here is the definition of Grace:
- A favor rendered by one who need not do so; indulgence. -

Vicky,
You and I are under Grace along with everyone else in this world.
If it were not so we all would have been condemned by those same Laws that you quoted. It is a "Favor" like the definition says; A favor from God (one who need not do so ) because of JESUS.
Maybe you feel all people are born in sin but I don't believe this Christ proclaims the innocents of children. We are taught sin the sin of hate
We shouldn't indulge in it like allot of people are doing today because when we do so it gives a false impression that the Law doesn't exist (which is not true). The Law still exist because Jesus never removed it; He only fulfilled it. Therefore Grace given to us is temporary! Christ said the law shall be untill it fullfills its purpose. This laws is the Holiness Code.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE HOLINESS CODE?

Here is another definition of Grace:
- A temporary immunity or exemption; a reprieve. -

God can decide at anytime when you have exceeded His Grace.
The only result after this is death.

Think about it.

February 27, 2004

Letter to Rosie O’Donnell

Dear Rosie,

I want to thank you for that important trip you made to San Francisco on February 26, 2004 to marry your long-time girlfriend. It was truly an inspiration for me to see you both kiss after the President of your country made statements that seemed so insensitive to gay people all over the world.

Even though I am not an American, George Bush really hurt me when he said he would support a constitutional amendment BANNING gay marriage in the United States. He also said he would work to see that such an amendment is drafted soon. Not only was it hurtful but it was also very shocking to hear the leader of the world’s lone superpower say such a thing, using the word BAN, which means to exclude, to reject and a host of other synonyms to make a person feel unequal and unwelcome in society.

You on the other hand, by getting married publicly for the world to see, made me feel so proud to be gay. You also made courageous statements; standing up to President Bush. I wish more celebrities would do the same.

If you are not about to do so, I hope you would personally visit The Bahamas when your family gay cruise docks in Nassau in July. I look forward to meeting you personally. Hopefully someday Bahamian gays and lesbians would be able to marry their partners as well.

Because American television is seen the world over, you are not just fighting for gay people in America, you are fighting for gay people all over the world. Thank you very much.


Justice
Nassau, Bahamas

Yes Rosie I to say thank you and congratulations on your marriage. It would be an Honor to see you both and to say thank you for the inspiration you have given to so many, and give you a hug.

Vicky

I was told a lot of one-dimensional thinking was going on at this site.

Whoever you are Delroy, you could be here arguing the Bible until thy Kingdom come with people. The Bahamas, as is all democracies, are a country of laws. This is not a religious state and therefore the Bible is not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. And since the Constitution guarantees equal rights for all Bahamians then equal rights should be afforded to all Bahamians, gay and straight. So everyone should be able to marry the person they chose. That is true equality.

Justice

Well put!
However, I doubt those with a religious view would agree with that. They would say that our laws are based on the principles of the Bible. How would you answer that argument?

i do not see the significance of O'donells union it is just like the many others that law makers arent even sure are legal. This sudden rush of gay ceremonies in the states just make me wonder if these were actually thought out or just another way to gain attention since the parades and floats no longer seem to be working. an interesting thought would be "which participant would recieve half of the other's property after a divorce?" that still has me puzzled.

Whether people who are deeply religious choose to accept or reject that the Constitution, not the Bible, is the supreme law of the land is irrelevant. It is an indisputable fact, period.

This is why gay people would soon have true equality in many countries, including ours. It WILL happen and is just matter of time. Mark my words. The equality would come about because of the religious right forcing its Biblical view down the throats of everyone, including the State, to deny an entire class of people fundamental human rights because of "their" views only. They easily forget that through the name of religion, more people have been discriminated against, persecuted and killed than any other institution in the history of mankind.

And people with a religious view only should also know that the very nature of a demaocracy means that there is an inherent separation of Church and State. You often hear that the government is "seeking input from the church" on a particular issue. This means that in a democracy, the government could act unilaterally if it chooses to do so, as it has done on many issues. The State is not REQUIRED to seek advice from the Church but does so to show that it is opening itself to hearing different views on a particular subject, including the views of sexual minorities.

Justice

Whether people who are deeply religious choose to accept or reject that the Constitution, not the Bible, is the supreme law of the land is irrelevant. It is an indisputable fact, period.

This is why gay people would soon have true equality in many countries, including ours. It WILL happen and is just matter of time. Mark my words. The equality would come about because of the religious right forcing its Biblical view down the throats of everyone, including the State, to deny an entire class of people fundamental human rights because of "their" views only. They easily forget that through the name of religion, more people have been discriminated against, persecuted and killed than any other institution in the history of mankind.

And people with a religious view only should also know that the very nature of a demaocracy means that there is an inherent separation of Church and State. You often hear that the government is "seeking input from the church" on a particular issue. This means that in a democracy, the government could act unilaterally if it chooses to do so, as it has done on many issues. The State is not REQUIRED to seek advice from the Church but does so to show that it is opening itself to hearing different views on a particular subject, including the views of sexual minorities.

Justice

OOOOOOooo you so on target you split the arrow. We need to talk.

i do not see the significance of O'donells union it is just like the many others that law makers arent even sure are legal. This sudden rush of gay ceremonies in the states just make me wonder if these were actually thought out or just another way to gain attention since the parades and floats no longer seem to be working. an interesting thought would be "which participant would recieve half of the other's property after a divorce?" that still has me puzzled.
The U.S. constitution says all are equal first and foremost. The constitution also says freedom from religious persecution. I think ours has that as well which means no ones religious faith can determine my or anyone else’s equality. There will be a long debate but it will come to pass we who are different will all be equal.

Uh the floats and parades are for us not for homophobic. They are for our enjoyment.