We are naturally endowed with fish, we have an abundance of water and fish.

Shouldn't we subsidize fishing, and send some of our local business fishermen big time?

Can we do it.....

I have a way in which it can be done, and at very little expense to the Bahamian consumer or the social welfare. And it is not by any fancy scheme.

What do you think of our fishies?!?!
:)

We are naturally endowed with fish, we have an abundance of water and fish.
Shouldn't we subsidize fishing, and send some of our local business fishermen big time?
Can we do it.....
I have a way in which it can be done, and at very little expense to the Bahamian consumer or the social welfare. And it is not by any fancy scheme.
What do you think of our fishies?!?!
:)

Simple. Ban all foriegn fishers, even minor ones such as privately owned yachts: confiscate all who disobey the ban, sink the offending boats/yachts/ships in order to promote coral development, set a financial penalty and send the offenders back home at their own cost-- non first class if possible. For local offenders, community service so that they have to improve bahamian society in compensation for the harm done fishery wise.

I'm not opposed to commercial fishing ventures as long as they take into consideration the ecological aspects.

Commercial fishing can wreak havoc on an ecosystem and it has in many parts of the world.

The first step is to stop the poachers. Then set up a ecologially sound fishing program.

I'm not opposed to commercial fishing ventures as long as they take into consideration the ecological aspects.
Commercial fishing can wreak havoc on an ecosystem and it has in many parts of the world.
The first step is to stop the poachers. Then set up a ecologially sound fishing program.

Perhaps. I think we have not been selling enough fish on the world market. We have to protect thje enviornment, and the fish that swim in it. I was not a big enviornmentalist, and still am not to any great extent. However, there is a market in doing a little more in fishing than what we are doing now.

Someone wanted the boys in Kemp road, to start a fishing village and business. The thing is, they have the man-power but they do not have the business experience, or the money to expand.

We need to protect the fishing industry. Use it for the locals....my god, we can do that can't we!?!?
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Well follow the lead of the SPanish Wells men - they have made a very successful livelihood for generations on fishing. Its a very hard line of work - can be profitable, but requires lifelong dedication.

The second part is finding the right species. Right now you can not commercially exploit crawfish any further, grouper, conch. Also, it takes large capital investments to purchase the boats and equipment. I just dont think the profit margins are in it for traditional commercial fishing. Now for non-traditional forms of a fishing industry - I have great plans for that.

Now for non-traditional forms of a fishing industry - I have great plans for that.



What types of non-traditional means? Can I be an investor?:)

Set up fish farms: Grouper, Snapper, Conch etc. I am sure someone is smart enough to get it off the ground. You wouldnt have to worry about poluted fish either.

Set up fish farms: Grouper, Snapper, Conch etc. I am sure someone is smart enough to get it off the ground. You wouldnt have to worry about poluted fish either.



Fish farms are the worst for polluted fish. Those fish live essentially in "pens". Not to mention the antibiotics and steroids and hormones in the food they feed them.

To be fair though, I've met some decent fish farmers. They keep their business small in order raise a more "organic" product.

Fshfarming is a fairly expensive endevor. It's not as simple as throwing a bunch of fish in a made-made lake and hoping for the best. You have to have the scientific knowledge to collect fish sperm and egg, insemination techniques size seperation, feedng techniques, etc.

It could work in the Bahamas, but the simplest best idea would be a small fisherman co-operative where folks on one island combine their product and sell it.

This is a good discussion though.

Simple. Ban all foriegn fishers, even minor ones such as privately owned yachts: confiscate all who disobey the ban, sink the offending boats/yachts/ships in order to promote coral development, set a financial penalty and send the offenders back home at their own cost-- non first class if possible. For local offenders, community service so that they have to improve bahamian society in compensation for the harm done fishery wise.


The issue is not that cut and dry. What we need and need badly is the enforcement of the laws on the books. Once agian you can write any Law on a piece of paper but if it is not enforced it is not worth the paper it is written on. Many family Island marina's depend on forgien sportsfishermen. Here is a link to one site that dealt with the changes Leslie Miller Made to our fishing regulations. http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/carribean/7581-new-bahamas-regs-udate.html
Take a look and see what they had to say, very interesting. WE NEED ENFORCEMENT NOT NEW LAWS!:hammer:

Fish farms are the worst for polluted fish. Those fish live essentially in "pens". Not to mention the antibiotics and steroids and hormones in the food they feed them.
To be fair though, I've met some decent fish farmers. They keep their business small in order raise a more "organic" product.
Fshfarming is a fairly expensive endevor. It's not as simple as throwing a bunch of fish in a made-made lake and hoping for the best. You have to have the scientific knowledge to collect fish sperm and egg, insemination techniques size seperation, feedng techniques, etc.
It could work in the Bahamas, but the simplest best idea would be a small fisherman co-operative where folks on one island combine their product and sell it.
This is a good discussion though.


Sounds like battery farming chickens. But fish are a different thing, and we can build a pen big enough to give them the type of freedom they need, while we nurture their growth.

Simple. Ban all foriegn fishers, even minor ones such as privately owned yachts: confiscate all who disobey the ban, sink the offending boats/yachts/ships in order to promote coral development, set a financial penalty and send the offenders back home at their own cost-- non first class if possible. For local offenders, community service so that they have to improve bahamian society in compensation for the harm done fishery wise.


Please go to Abaco or Eluthera and spend a couple nights looking out at the Atlantic Ocean. You can see the longliners out there killing everything that comes their way. Many nights i have watched as the big factory ships with their lights burning kill up on our fish. Shot some of our own are not much better. If you know anything about Grouper you know that they need to be cleaned of parasites on a regular basis and go to certain fish for this service. There was one "fisherman" that came up by Cherokee sound and dropped massive fishpots for weeks at a time. Now he got some Grouper but the ones he got where baited by the untold amount that died in his pots. This Man was a minister of agriculture at one time and had the boats in a lady's name but we all know who he was. He should have been hung and quatered:jawdroop:

Sounds like battery farming chickens. But fish are a different thing, and we can build a pen big enough to give them the type of freedom they need, while we nurture their growth.

I think someone was trying to use the old salt ponds down in Inaugua to do some fish farming. They Used to farm shrimp in Freeport, do not know if that is still up and running. They are farming fish of of Russel Island and down at the Island School.

Please go to Abaco or Eluthera and spend a couple nights looking out at the Atlantic Ocean. You can see the longliners out there killing everything that comes their way. Many nights i have watched as the big factory ships with their lights burning kill up on our fish. Shot some of our own are not much better. If you know anything about Grouper you know that they need to be cleaned of parasites on a regular basis and go to certain fish for this service. There was one "fisherman" that came up by Cherokee sound and dropped massive fishpots for weeks at a time. Now he got some Grouper but the ones he got where baited by the untold amount that died in his pots. This Man was a minister of agriculture at one time and had the boats in a lady's name but we all know who he was. He should have been hung and quatered:jawdroop:


Man you can see 200 miles? Must be able to because 200 miles is our exclusive economic zone, therefore only Bahamians can exploit those waters.What is your secret for your bionic eyes?

Sounds like battery farming chickens. But fish are a different thing, and we can build a pen big enough to give them the type of freedom they need, while we nurture their growth.



YK,

Hve you ever seen or visited a fish farm? If we go the open man-made lake way, it possible.

But if you go with traditional fish farm, the pens can't be too big or you have to spend more money in fish feed (which can eat into profit margins and cost a fortune).

I'm a wholesome eater and I won't touch food from traditional fish farms. Yes, I know everything gives you cancer, but give me my fish from the sea and let me take my chances with mercury.

I would support any Bahamian businessprson who opened a fish farm. I thought about it and did a feasability study but decided to pursue other agricultural interests.


If you go with the organic fish farm model you could make a MINT selling to health conscience Americans after you've tapped the market at home.

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I think someone was trying to use the old salt ponds down in Inaugua to do some fish farming. They Used to farm shrimp in Freeport, do not know if that is still up and running. They are farming fish of of Russel Island and down at the Island School.

I say give that person the support he needs. Rally around his effort, and let the enforcment of the laws start with protecting his investment.
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