no prob, email me if you ever have any questions .. I just do it for people I know, friends, security clients, and family.

I generally pick up the machine and have it ready by the next day as I do it at night, if it requires hardware that can take longer .. a couple days, as i dont sell hardware but buy local or away depends on the client, the hardware, and their budget. (did you know you can get a new PC Tower from Miami for less than $300 - factory refurbished 2.4-2.8 ghz - its what Im using)

rory

So tell us how we can get 1 and other specs.

So tell us how we can get 1 and other specs.


Prices go up and down ... depending on what they get in stock:
Basically if you want a PC that you can add to/upgrade easy a SystemMax is the choice, if you want a ready built the HP-Compaqs are my choice (and they have great online support for drivers)

brand new:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1212371&CatId=940
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1179225&CatId=118

refurbished:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1191869&CatId=118
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1160709&CatId=940
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1172249&CatId=940

all desktop PCs under $570
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/search.asp?page=1&cat=6&HighPrice=570&noredirect=1

CG, check the ending part of post# 201 where you are discussing a posting of Parietal.

OK. Thanks. I see it.

parietal_03 said "In mainstream religion are we not trained to react instinctively?" I replied. "In fact we are discouraged from doing this." By that I meant that in most mainstream religions, particularly, Christianity the training is that there is nothing good in us and therefore our instincts are "off" too. The follower of Christianity, traditionally, leans only on the Church for understanding not on the inner-self.

I am using my old desktop a pentium II as my laptop had water spilled on it.

I think after a while I might get a new system and save this one for a spare. I don't like to be off the net for long. Would like a laptop, but I hear they are very expensive!

Vicky, be careful with water, I understand water is very bad for anything electronic!

CG, check the ending part of post# 201 where you are discussing a posting of Parietal.

Yes, my machine went bad Feb 3. It would boot up perfectly, but after the bootup, the monitor screen would go black and there was absolutely nothing on it. The little overlapping piece of plastic on a floppy disk got caught up in the floppy drive. I wrote these things down and carried the mach in to the place I bought it, early Feb 4. I think the main problem was the tech who worked on it could hardly speak english and when I talked to him on the phone seems we could not understand each other. [it was also found out that my motherboard was bad]. Finally got mach back Feb 11 and still could not get on the net, till last night a tech from Cable Bahamas walked me through how to get my IP address back and thank heavens I was able to again access the net.

Rory, If I had known you do that type of work, would have been glad to give you the job!

OI! Did you take your computer to "DC" computers?

OK. Thanks. I see it.

parietal_03 said "In mainstream religion are we not trained to react instinctively?" I replied. "In fact we are discouraged from doing this." By that I meant that in most mainstream religions, particularly, Christianity the training is that there is nothing good in us and therefore our instincts are "off" too. The follower of Christianity, traditionally, leans only on the Church for understanding not on the inner-self.

I see what you mean, but this hopefully is changing. I think it is towards the end of the book of John where Christ told his disciples/apostles that they were now friends. There was no longer that Master or Lord-relationship with them anymore, they were friends. And there are many preachers on TV who always talk about how "In christ, we are the righteousness of God!" And "We are His children, the children of the King", etc, etc. Yes, Christians these days are being told many good things about themselves, and preachers are giving you chapter and verse from the bible to support what they say.

So, to me it seems we are improving, coming into our own so to speak. This should be especially so for the older folks who have been through many changes, etc.

One thing I heard a pastor said yesterday that put me to thinking: People, he said, who were born before the year 1962 are like strangers in a strange land! He said this in speaking about the dis-connect/lack of understanding between the young and the old. We can't understand the young folks, they live in a different world, much of their language is different from ours, etc. Many of them, he said, don't want us to tell them anything about how they should behave, etc, cause they have seen enough of our hypocracy, so they want to find out things for themselves! Well, this seems to be something to think about!!

no prob, email me if you ever have any questions .. I just do it for people I know, friends, security clients, and family.

I generally pick up the machine and have it ready by the next day as I do it at night, if it requires hardware that can take longer .. a couple days, as i dont sell hardware but buy local or away depends on the client, the hardware, and their budget. (did you know you can get a new PC Tower from Miami for less than $300 - factory refurbished 2.4-2.8 ghz - its what Im using)

rory

Thanks Rory, this is good. I think electronic repairs, especially PC's is a very good field to go into. Seems there are not enough reliable people in it. Even if you live to be old, you still should be able to do much of this kind of work 'cause PCs are not heavy to move around. Sometimes I have a mind to learn how to fix them myself!

About the price of $300 for the tower a friend who just came from the US told me the same thing a week ago. But when I asked the dealers who were taking so long to fix mine about the price of a new one, they said the cheapest they had was $600!

I see what you mean, but this hopefully is changing.
In some quarter it is. Christianity changes - the powers-that-be swear it does not but it does!

I think it is towards the end of the book of John where Christ told his disciples/apostles that they were now friends. There was no longer that Master or Lord-relationship with them anymore, they were friends.
That is true. It is a shame that his Church often treats us like wayward children!

And there are many preachers on TV who always talk about how "In christ, we are the righteousness of God!" And "We are His children, the children of the King", etc, etc. Yes, Christians these days are being told many good things about themselves, and preachers are giving you chapter and verse from the bible to support what they say.
This is good!

So, to me it seems we are improving, coming into our own so to speak. This should be especially so for the older folks who have been through many changes, etc.
I hope so.

One thing I heard a pastor said yesterday that put me to thinking: People, he said, who were born before the year 1962 are like strangers in a strange land!
I was born in 1947! :what:

He said this in speaking about the dis-connect/lack of understanding between the young and the old. We can't understand the young folks, they live in a different world, much of their language is different from ours, etc. Many of them, he said, don't want us to tell them anything about how they should behave, etc, cause they have seen enough of our hypocracy, so they want to find out things for themselves! Well, this seems to be something to think about!!
Yes, it does. But give the young enough time and they will come up with their own hypocrisy. Every generation does! :sarcastic

You are right! I missed that,

Matthew says "There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you." So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples."

So Matthew says they saw an angel. And they ran to tell the disciples

Mark says " As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. "Don't be alarmed," he said. "You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.
But go, tell his disciples and Peter, 'He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.'" Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.

So Mark says it was a young man and that the women were afraid to tell anyone what they saw.

Luke says "They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 'The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.'" Then they remembered his words. When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others.

So, Luke says it was two men and that the women went and told the others.

John is the most interesting. He says " Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.
So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!" So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus' head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen. Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.) Then the disciples went back to their homes."

John says it was the disciples Then he adds something else.

"but Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus' body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot. They asked her, "Woman, why are you crying?" "They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they have put him." At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus. "Woman," he said, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?" Thinking he was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him." Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which means Teacher). Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news: "I have seen the Lord!" And she told them that he had said these things to her.



Some accounts say that one man, or Angel was there. Some say two Angels. Some accounts say the women were there, some say the disciples.. Some accounts say the women told the disciples, other say that they did not. Only one account mentions someone seeing Jesus there.

On the surface these are conflicting accounts. And I must say that in a Court of Law these testimonies would raise doubts! But what all agree on is that Jesus was not in the tomb. That is the main thrust of all the accounts. Are there any facts to show he had risen? No, there are none. These conflicting stories do not help matters. But as the story goes on, one hears of Jesus appearing to other people and even to Doubting Thomas to show that he was alive. This seemed to satisfy Thomas who went on to India to start a church there. It seems to satisfy countless Christian from that time to this.

The burden of proof in spiritual matters are not the facts of the stories, but the stories themselves. If the stories produce belief then they have served there purpose.

I can only answer as a Buddhist. Do the conflicts in the stories bother me? Not at all. Many religions have conflicting stories, few see them as facts as the Christian does, but they see them as stories to engender faith and hope. These stories, when read as facts, leave us cold and are full of holes. But when read as metaphor they open us up to the spiritual.

But enough of a Buddhist trying to defend a Christian story! Let's hear from the Christians!


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CG, I think you are doing a better job (or at least just as good) in defending a Christian story as the Christians. I hated not being here to help -- my machine was down. You covered wonderfully what I heard a great Bible scholar said. In a brief statement, he said that when you see differences and contradictions or seeming contradictions in the Bible, what you should examine are PRINCIPLES! What Bible Principles are being jeopardised or disrupted by these differences/contradictions? If you don't look at it in this light, then you will always have all kinds of nit-picky issues to be clouding up your mind. You look at principles and at the preponderance of the "evidence" to guide your understanding! When no Bible principles ar jeopardised then there is really no big problem!

Christians are humans to, and when they hear things so foreign to their faith, shocking, almost insulting things that seem to be an abomination to God Himself, then they have a right to move on. Christ Himself gave them that right when He told them if they are not welcome in a city to "dust their feet off and leave the city"

In a post to Vicky (or was it an email?), I predicted something like this would happen, that many or most or the Christians posting would get fed up and quit. Remember, patience is a virtue that not many people have, a virtue that Christians are SUPPOSED to have. Even Moses had a problem with patience. This is probably why he died before reaching the promised land.

OI! Did you take your computer to "DC" computers?

Yes, DC Technology, that's where I bought it from 3 years ago.

Yes, DC Technology, that's where I bought it from 3 years ago.


yeah my mom had bought 2 HP Printer/Copier/Scanner Combos in a couple years from them, they both went bad, and the last one she bought was all in spanish, i think they were refurbished? Anyway, they had the printer for a couple months so she bought a brand new one again, but from Custom Computers this time ...they are the HP dealers so service and parts ar easy to get ...

Yeah, $600 isnt bad for a PC locally, but, more than likley that is second hand, or like a 1000mhz or something old. You can get those types for like $50 in the US, alot of people do that here, buy them in lots of 10 or so at $50 or so each, and resell them at like $500+, but honestly, anything that old is not worth buying spending a penny on. Not saying that is what they are selling though. But the last time my client bought a new Dell here locally a month ago, price was around $1200, from the place you mentioned. It was a new 2.8Ghz, nothing much more than what I got here for $250!! Most you may have to do is switch the Hard Drive at some point as they can go bad .. they got a second computer (HP/Compaq) from the US for around $600 landed, brand new 2.8 Ghz.

Ofcourse the local companies have to mark up and that is understandable ..though its a wonder why their markups are the same or more than my CCTV DVRs when I pay 35% duty and computers are duty free ??

Thanks Rory, this is good. I think electronic repairs, especially PC's is a very good field to go into. Seems there are not enough reliable people in it. Even if you live to be old, you still should be able to do much of this kind of work 'cause PCs are not heavy to move around. Sometimes I have a mind to learn how to fix them myself!

About the price of $300 for the tower a friend who just came from the US told me the same thing a week ago. But when I asked the dealers who were taking so long to fix mine about the price of a new one, they said the cheapest they had was $600!


tried the field for a while back when, but too many people doing it ... its just something I do on the side now ..my love for CCTV overwhelms anything else right now, except for writing code :-)

CG, I think you are doing a better job (or at least just as good) in defending a Christian story as the Christians.
I take that as a great complement. Thank you. :)

I hated not being here to help -- my machine was down.
That cannot be helped. Joseph Campbell said that his computer reminded him of the Old Testament God - no grace and a lot of rules. :hammer:


In a post to Vicky (or was it an email?), I predicted something like this would happen, that many or most or the Christians posting would get fed up and quit. Remember, patience is a virtue that not many people have, a virtue that Christians are SUPPOSED to have. Even Moses had a problem with patience. This is probably why he died before reaching the promised land.

I am somewhat concerned that more Christians don't post on these religious issues. Often this is a case of not really understanding their faith - they are even more unable to defend it - what does that say about the training they receive? At the same time I think that many do not feel it is worth the effort. But it is worth the effort. Many people view these postings, many are not registered members but they check here often, and I am glad of that. (I wish they would register and add their voices to the mix - they would be most welcome.) It is my belief that a Christian, or whatever faith, should be ready to share their views whenever possible. This should not be done in an effort to convert others but to open doors to understanding.

As for the matter of patience. Many people pray for patience and the Lord answers them by sending the most annoying, aggravating person he can find! (I hope I am not one of those but, you never know!) That way one learns patience. Patience can only be learned by having it tried! :heartbeat

In a post to Vicky (or was it an email?), I predicted something like this would happen, that many or most or the Christians posting would get fed up and quit. Remember, patience is a virtue that not many people have, a virtue that Christians are SUPPOSED to have. Even Moses had a problem with patience. This is probably why he died before reaching the promised land.

Great Demos its not that they get fed up. It’s that I put them in a position where they must question their faith. I prove to them they are stuck and not looking and they really don’t like that.
I am stuck and I am looking questioning and trying to understand.
But like CG signature. “Im not ok your not ok but its ok.”
They try to tell me they believe this even thought it goes against that. Then when I point out that they clam up. Even you.


I will give you the dilemma here again. Please respond
You would think it fair for a partner in a same sex relationship to be denied access to their loved one in the hospital. Because they have no legal union available and you agree with this law. When you your self would think it unfair for you to be denied that same right if you had no legal recourse to your loved one in hospital.

Great Demos its not that they get fed up. It’s that I put them in a position where they must question their faith. I prove to them they are stuck and not looking and they really don’t like that.
I am stuck and I am looking questioning and trying to understand.
But like CG signature. “Im not ok your not ok but its ok.”
They try to tell me they believe this even thought it goes against that. Then when I point out that they clam up. Even you.


I will give you the dilemma here again. Please respond
You would think it fair for a partner in a same sex relationship to be denied access to their loved one in the hospital. Because they have no legal union available and you agree with this law. When you your self would think it unfair for you to be denied that same right if you had no legal recourse to your loved one in hospital.

Vicky, you know sometimes its extremely hard, I repeat extremely hard, try as I may, to really understand where you are coming from. Honestly and truly, I really bend over backwards trying. And sometimes, I think, is it really worth it, to be using up all this time trying to explain as best or better than I can where I am coming from and trying to see and understand where you are coming from!!!???

Recall if you will, the postings on the war in Iraq. That was another situation where I bent over backwards trying to see and understand where two of the persons posting were coming from. I had to respectfully bow out from posting to that thread, 'cause the more I posted the least I was being understood by the good gentleman who was doing most of the postings!

In a way, I was glad when Rory kind of "told him off" and stopped posting for quite a while to that thread. (I stopped just soon after that). I could be wrong, but at the time, I felt that there were many others who felt like telling him off and quitting!

So you are accusing the persons who stopped posting on church matters as well as myself of clamming up and being stuck and not looking, etc, but I may as well tell you, I DEFINITELY DON'T think that is the case. Look at the patience Bsmbahamas had with you in posting all those scriptures, etc. That displays way more patience than I myself have!!!

I believe I have told you over and repeatedly, to the best of my knowledge, how you come across as being very unreasonable, etc, etc, with all due respect! Yes, CG disagrees with some of what I say and some of what the others say, but very seldom would he come across in the kind of doggedly unreasonable manner that seems to be coming from you -- Or am I reading you wrong!?

We discussed this bit about the hospital before. I don't know about all these rules/laws you are talking about. When I go to visit anyone anywhere, public or private, I don't have any trouble, nor do I expect to have any problem in that regard. Why should I be unwelcome if I am conducting myself in a manner as becomes a gentleman!?

If you or anyone else is being treated unfairly in such matters, how can I, of all people, be held responsible for that? How can ANYONE, except the people who make the rules or laws, be blamed for that? If you were looking, you will have seen from my pevious postings that I am not too keen on politicians, governments, and even some authority figures, in general, because I don't think these persons do justice to the governance of this country!

I tell my children over and repeatedly how they better try and do what they can to make this country a better place, 'cause I think I did my best, yes, I put in my two cents, and I can see how it was ignored, and how many more persons than myself were ignored, and I told them what would be the results, which proved to be just as I had predicted. Just like I had predicted to you what the results were going to be regarding some of the Christians who were posting to this topic!

This motto, I am not Ok, you are not OK, but that's OK, I really don't get it! I don't believe a true Christian would agree with that at all! But who am I to nock it down!? And why should I? A part of your motto even sounds much worse, and for years it has made me feel a bit sick whenever I look at it, but again, who am I to nock it down, and why should I!? What kinds of rules and laws should govern that!? Or who, if anyone, any group, should be held responsible!?

Again, I don't believe in being critical in such matters. CG displays great wisdom in most of his postings. To me, you also show much wisdom in your postings, except for religious and church matters! I can only give you my opinion -- I don't know how the others would think or feel!

Most of the times when I post, I try to think issues through carefully, and try to shed light on the situation, not create heat. I try to treasure other people's pearls of wisdom, not trample on them! If I answer a question and explain it a few times, I would think that would be enough, and there should be absolutely NO reason for the same questions to be asked over and repeatedly!!! In a fashion casting blame!!! I have seen a number of others over the years who spoke to you very decently and orderly and you ended up insulting them severely! Why is this called for!!!???

To say the least, that's not right, that's not fair and it is counterproductive! And that is most likely why the others stopped from posting! As I have said before, Christians are humans too. They have a sense of feeling to hurt, just like everybody else! Maybe they sensed in their spirit that something was seriously wrong, perhaps some spiritual death was messing up the communication! There was NO meeting of the minds!

I hope my remarks are taken in the spirit in which they are given, not to offend or insult but to try to shed light, to try to understand. If I can't accomplish this, then maybe I myself should cease and desist posting on this subject.