I must agree with you, CG in re: the things that we hold in common. Unfortunately, we also live in a world of extremism and intollerance. It is too bad that our banners of religion (whatever religion) would sometimes violate their own tenets and utilize violence, murder and etc. to further the cause of "their" faith. Ironically, there are some in the US who proclaim themselves as "pro-life" (I don't want to get into that arguement-smile) but among them are extremists who will kill in cold blood in defense of anti-abortionist who claim that abortion is murder. Now thats just an example on the Christian side.
Now at best in our societies-all over the world, we realize that there will be differences of thinking and ideas: wheither those thoughts and ideas would be who (or what) you worship, your lifestyle, the kind of music you listen to and so on. There are some people in this world who have made consciencious choices and just as many who have had choices made for them. If one has made a consciencious choice over anything, he or she will have to live with those choices: e.g., if a person decides to rob and steal instead of work, when he is caught, the laws of society will deal with him and what ever punishment is dealt, he will (or at least is supposed) to pay the costs. If one steals out of "necessity", then society must deal with that as well.
There are so many things that can unite us as people and so much common ground and I see so much energies being used to lift up a cause (I myself am guilty of that at times)
Once in a barber shop when I was getting my haircut, a little boy looked at my hair (I am black, but my hair is wavy-straight) and he said that he wished that he had "good hair" like mine. I had to correct him and to tell him that my hair was not "good" or even better than his: JUST DIFFERENT!!!!
I would hope CG that others who read this forum would stop "tearing down" different faiths, ideas and yes, even lifestyles. Althought I may see people doing things, and behaving in ways that I may feel that are abhorrant, and distastful, I myself will not be doing those things myself. I am a Pastor and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yet I can speak to a Buddist (such as yourself) without fear of your talking me into Buddism (which I don't think you can--smile) just as much as my speaking is an attempt to convert you.
So what do we say to all of this? As I stated in a previous post, "for those who do not believe, no proof will be enough. For those who believe, no proof is necessary." I say this would hold true for anyone who believes anything: even an atheist.

I must agree with you, CG in re: the things that we hold in common. Unfortunately, we also live in a world of extremism and intollerance. It is too bad that our banners of religion (whatever religion) would sometimes violate their own tenets and utilize violence, murder and etc. to further the cause of "their" faith. Ironically, there are some in the US who proclaim themselves as "pro-life" (I don't want to get into that arguement-smile) but among them are extremists who will kill in cold blood in defense of anti-abortionist who claim that abortion is murder. Now thats just an example on the Christian side.
Now at best in our societies-all over the world, we realize that there will be differences of thinking and ideas: wheither those thoughts and ideas would be who (or what) you worship, your lifestyle, the kind of music you listen to and so on. There are some people in this world who have made consciencious choices and just as many who have had choices made for them. If one has made a consciencious choice over anything, he or she will have to live with those choices: e.g., if a person decides to rob and steal instead of work, when he is caught, the laws of society will deal with him and what ever punishment is dealt, he will (or at least is supposed) to pay the costs. If one steals out of "necessity", then society must deal with that as well.
There are so many things that can unite us as people and so much common ground and I see so much energies being used to lift up a cause (I myself am guilty of that at times)
Once in a barber shop when I was getting my haircut, a little boy looked at my hair (I am black, but my hair is wavy-straight) and he said that he wished that he had "good hair" like mine. I had to correct him and to tell him that my hair was not "good" or even better than his: JUST DIFFERENT!!!!
I would hope CG that others who read this forum would stop "tearing down" different faiths, ideas and yes, even lifestyles. Althought I may see people doing things, and behaving in ways that I may feel that are abhorrant, and distastful, I myself will not be doing those things myself. I am a Pastor and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yet I can speak to a Buddist (such as yourself) without fear of your talking me into Buddism (which I don't think you can--smile) just as much as my speaking is an attempt to convert you.
So what do we say to all of this? As I stated in a previous post, "for those who do not believe, no proof will be enough. For those who believe, no proof is necessary." I say this would hold true for anyone who believes anything: even an atheist.


I know a number of Christian Pastors. (Here, in the Bahamas, in the US and the UK) I might even know you, I can't say at this point. But let me say that Buddhists (generally speaking) do not wish to convert anyone to Buddhism. If one is happy in the faith they are following Buddhists are happy about that. What the Buddhist wants is for people to really know the faith they are following, and to follow it. We believe that society in general will benefit if that happens.

The Christian faith is a wonderful faith. As Gandhi said. "Why does not someone try it some time!" (The same can be said about any faith!) Of course we know many do. But more are needed. If religions could come together on a common ground, we could change the world!!! Please read my posting at this thread, slide all the way down to the first posting http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=726

I think we could have much to talk about. I look forward, with the greatest anticipation, to hearing from you again. Perhap we can open a new thread on religious understanding?

May God, as you see Him, and worship Him, bless you.

I must agree with you, CG in re: the things that we hold in common. Unfortunately, we also live in a world of extremism and intollerance. It is too bad that our banners of religion (whatever religion) would sometimes violate their own tenets and utilize violence, murder and etc. to further the cause of "their" faith. Ironically, there are some in the US who proclaim themselves as "pro-life" (I don't want to get into that arguement-smile) but among them are extremists who will kill in cold blood in defense of anti-abortionist who claim that abortion is murder. Now thats just an example on the Christian side.
Now at best in our societies-all over the world, we realize that there will be differences of thinking and ideas: wheither those thoughts and ideas would be who (or what) you worship, your lifestyle, the kind of music you listen to and so on. There are some people in this world who have made consciencious choices and just as many who have had choices made for them. If one has made a consciencious choice over anything, he or she will have to live with those choices: e.g., if a person decides to rob and steal instead of work, when he is caught, the laws of society will deal with him and what ever punishment is dealt, he will (or at least is supposed) to pay the costs. If one steals out of "necessity", then society must deal with that as well.
There are so many things that can unite us as people and so much common ground and I see so much energies being used to lift up a cause (I myself am guilty of that at times)
Once in a barber shop when I was getting my haircut, a little boy looked at my hair (I am black, but my hair is wavy-straight) and he said that he wished that he had "good hair" like mine. I had to correct him and to tell him that my hair was not "good" or even better than his: JUST DIFFERENT!!!!
I would hope CG that others who read this forum would stop "tearing down" different faiths, ideas and yes, even lifestyles. Althought I may see people doing things, and behaving in ways that I may feel that are abhorrant, and distastful, I myself will not be doing those things myself. I am a Pastor and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yet I can speak to a Buddist (such as yourself) without fear of your talking me into Buddism (which I don't think you can--smile) just as much as my speaking is an attempt to convert you.
So what do we say to all of this? As I stated in a previous post, "for those who do not believe, no proof will be enough. For those who believe, no proof is necessary." I say this would hold true for anyone who believes anything: even an atheist.

Now this is interesting a pastor with an open mind and open heart. There is hope for the Bahamas yet.

"For those who do not believe, no proof will be enough. For those who believe, no proof is necessary."
I looked over this quote a few times. I said to my self this could be intolerance at it best or it could be acceptance at its best. I assumed it was meant for intolerance. After reading this post I say I am sorry for assuming this.
Why don’t you and CG come to a Rainbow Alliance meeting?

i have faith that it is the true words!

i have faith that it is the true words!
So then we should have to live by your faith even if it is not ours????

So then we should have to live by your faith even if it is not ours????

the truth to you..is far different as the truth to me!
that is why out of one main religion.."Hebrew" can three!
Islam
Christianity
and Judaesm!

the truth to you..is far different as the truth to me!
that is why out of one main religion.."Hebrew" can three!
Islam
Christianity
and Judaesm!
Hinduism is the oldest religion practiced to this day. It has more followers that any other religion.
I heard there are more Hindus in India than there are Christians in all the world. Please note I only heard this I have no proof.
If you look and I mean really look into many religions they have many things in common.

Hinduism is the oldest religion practiced to this day. It has more followers that any other religion.
I heard there are more Hindus in India than there are Christians in all the world. Please note I only heard this I have no proof.
If you look and I mean really look into many religions they have many things in common.

well...there are still some african settlers who still follow the ancient deity of AMEN-RA and KEMET!
so i have heard, but they are far lesss in size, and really reduced to cult like status.

hey, did you know that the word AMEN in judaesm and christianity comes means power to the Lord or something to that effect?
well, the cheif God in ancient egypt (while the isrealites were slaves), was AMEN-RA and AMEN-PTAH....and it means all knowing and all powerful being.

so at least the three religions of adam have some interconections with ancient egyptian teachings!

but hindu and islam or christianity????
i dont know...exept for the fact that they all beleive in higher beings, or spirits, to that extent yes, but anything else is far fetched!

.....but hindu and islam or christianity????
i dont know...exept for the fact that they all beleive in higher beings, or spirits, to that extent yes, but anything else is far fetched!

I have always believed that religions share a common source and goal. Please check out this site and read the startling similarities between Jesus (Yeshua) and Krishna (the Hindu second person of their Trinity) http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm This will give you only a taste of the many things that world Saviors share.

(If you go deeper into that site you will see a lot more.)

I have always believed that religions share a common source and goal. Please check out this site and read the startling similarities between Jesus (Yeshua) and Krishna (the Hindu second person of their Trinity) http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm This will give you only a taste of the many things that world Saviors share.

(If you go deeper into that site you will see a lot more.)


one thing..how did yeshua..equivalate to jesus?

one thing..how did yeshua..equivalate to jesus?

That is Jesus' "name" in Hebrew, check this site. http://www.messianic.com/articles/yeshua.htm

one thing..how did yeshua..equivalate to jesus?
That is how you pronounce Jesus in Hebrew.

That is how you pronounce Jesus in Hebrew.

A little more than that Vicky. As the site mentioned says, "Jesus is a mis-transliteration of the Greek mis-transliteration, Yeysu."

Hi all this is one that I feel is a very good question. I hear (so call them selves) Christians say this all the time “The Bible is the word of God”.

I say ok Prove it.
This is a very difficult challenge to prove to someone else that the bible is the word of God, it is pretty silly attempting, nevertheless this site would be no fun if we didn’t take the questions seriously.

First of all there is hardly a book that is not the word of God.

Second the word of God is not for God but to help the man or to remind the man of the values that God has placed in him.

Third we must establish what they are? If we determine that they are the God values that make man and God alike; and of the same purpose then the difficulty of proof is very simple for each man to see for himself.

Forth the bible is both fact and faith! The fact that one must have faith with enough conviction and courage to prove or to witness for himself the which is facts, without faith one can never prove that the word of God is facts. After all how can anyone do anything without believing it in the first place (the only other way is by accident).

Prove that the bible is the word of God?

“God is good.”
we are reminded to exercise the good that God has placed within the man.

“God is love”
we are reminded to exercise the love that God has placed within the man.

“God is light”
we are reminded to exercise the light that God has place within the man.

“God is merciful”
we are reminded to exercise the mercy that God has placed in the man.

“God is refuge”
we are reminded that in all times there is always place for refuge in God a place regardless to the way of the man.

“God is great”
we are reminded to exercise the greatness that God has placed within the man.

“God is pure”
we are reminded to exercise the purest thoughts that God has placed within the man.

“God is righteous”
we are reminded to exercise the righteous or right-useness that God has placed within the man.

“God is strength”
we are reminded to exercise the strength that God has placed within the man.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

The word of God is that which we are given to exercise ourselves according to that which God is, I see this book emphasize this regardless to a trail of questions analyzing the missives and symbols of the prophets or writers.

Regardless to the mistranslations by scholars and philosophers…
Regardless to misinterpretation by preachers and teachers…
Regardless to the miscalculation by Christian denominations…
Regardless to the misrepresentation and misuse by false prophets or opportunist…
God has placed within the man equal values that which God is, man is created with the equal value of both all other men and of God.
And it is pointless to proves to the one that think not or know not and unless the one is willing to prove the facts by faith, (if not then, at least open-mindedly).

This is a very difficult challenge to prove to someone else that the bible is the word of God, it is pretty silly attempting, nevertheless this site would be no fun if we didn’t take the questions seriously.

First of all there is hardly a book that is not the word of God.

Second the word of God is not for God but to help the man or to remind the man of the values that God has placed in him.

Third we must establish what they are? If we determine that they are the God values that make man and God alike; and of the same purpose then the difficulty of proof is very simple for each man to see for himself.

Forth the bible is both fact and faith! The fact that one must have faith with enough conviction and courage to prove or to witness for himself the which is facts, without faith one can never prove that the word of God is facts. After all how can anyone do anything without believing it in the first place (the only other way is by accident).

Prove that the bible is the word of God?

“God is good.”
we are reminded to exercise the good that God has placed within the man.

“God is love”
we are reminded to exercise the love that God has placed within the man.

“God is light”
we are reminded to exercise the light that God has place within the man.

“God is merciful”
we are reminded to exercise the mercy that God has placed in the man.

“God is refuge”
we are reminded that in all times there is always place for refuge in God a place regardless to the way of the man.

“God is great”
we are reminded to exercise the greatness that God has placed within the man.

“God is pure”
we are reminded to exercise the purest thoughts that God has placed within the man.

“God is righteous”
we are reminded to exercise the righteous or right-useness that God has placed within the man.

“God is strength”
we are reminded to exercise the strength that God has placed within the man.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

The word of God is that which we are given to exercise ourselves according to that which God is, I see this book emphasize this regardless to a trail of questions analyzing the missives and symbols of the prophets or writers.

Regardless to the mistranslations by scholars and philosophers…
Regardless to misinterpretation by preachers and teachers…
Regardless to the miscalculation by Christian denominations…
Regardless to the misrepresentation and misuse by false prophets or opportunist…
God has placed within the man equal values that which God is, man is created with the equal value of both all other men and of God.
And it is pointless to proves to the one that think not or know not and unless the one is willing to prove the facts by faith, (if not then, at least open-mindedly).


Still only boils down to faith