not that i really care :p
but what about mulsim marriages, and other non christian marriages ..?
what do they have to say on the subject ..?

I mean obviously if you are getting married in a christian church then you have to follow their rules .. as with anyones house or businesss ...

hi Ernie,
I agree with your statment all the way.
the word of God is clear on this.I don't care what excuse some people might use for their action.am holding on the the word of God at all cost.

So you live by the word of The Creator. Do you live by all of it??????


Just a bit of something that might be of intrest
2 Samuel
1:26 I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.

im not wendile but however GOD is the ALPHA and OMEGA therefor he knows everything as children of GOD we must be able to know these things this verse is for u. judges 1:5 and matthew2:5

Judges 1:5 (King James Version)
5And they found Adonibezek in Bezek: and they fought against him, and they slew the Canaanites and the Perizzites

Matthew 2:5 (King James Version)
5And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,


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Will you people just STOP judging others? I believe in a just and caring God who supports everything and everyone in His creation, and not just the ones who support your present political profile.

God is and was love, period. From where I sit, love's the basic ingredient missing from all of these pronouncements judging the love between a man and man to be somehow less than the love between a man and a woman. The sooner we accept our fellow humans, the sooner we can get on with the business of making His kingdom come while we're visiting here ...

:sparky:

Very well said Islandgyal

Depends on the authority.

If it is marriage, which is a religious ceremony, then it is up to the religion that is governing the ceremony to decide whether the ceremony between same sexes persons is evil or not. Its certainly not righteous. I don't think any marriage is righteous. Well, then again, that would all depend on the religion.

This is one of those areas where religion and state should not be married. When the state legitimizes a religious ceremony, then you have a problem. I say leave marriage for religion. Leave civil unions for the state.

Answer this question (please)
Why would non-conformist (homosexuals) feel a driving need and/or right to enter into a conformist (traditional marriage between and man and a woman) covenant? :dgi:
Legal rights. It has little or nothing to do with the church or Christianity. Most GLBT don't really care about the Christian special interest group or their faith as it is not theirs and should not be subject to their policies. Just as you would not want to be subject to Muslim policies.

Why try and change the conventional system (marriage between a man and a woman) to fit *unconventional behaviour?
Now here is a no brainer. Why did women stand up for their rights as human beings??? Why was slavery banned after all slavery is condoned in the Bible.
*unconventional dehaviour defined as: two men or two women or four women and a man, or ten men and one woman, etc. :what:
Now doesn't this sound outragous?
And were does it end?

Not when you compare it to some of the marriages in the past oh and in the Bible. One man and how many wives??
HHHHHmmm threesomes foursomes and manymoresomes.
The difference here is we are not talking sex. We are talking sharing love and legal assets.

noooooooooooooooo,
how did this we get on this topic again...
where is Vicky....

Right here :cutie:

They dn't know that themselves.I once asked a gay why in the world would you want to join the church knowing that Homosexuality is not excepted there & its like a black man joining the KKK.He tried to give me that same Lala that all sissies & their freinds try to spread about God being all about love.But I would really like to know were they found that from cuz they can't be talking about the God of the Bible who says "depart from me I know you not." :board2:

Just because there are Christian GLBT and they don't believe in the hate of your faith dose not mean they are lesser. If your path to the Creator is of hate and theirs is love so be it. It is simply diffrernt paths they see your hate as a sin you see their love as a sin. Is the Creator and Jesus hate or love??? Have a nice day.

Luke 13:25-28 (King James Version)
25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

No referance to homosexuality.

Depends on the authority.

If it is marriage, which is a religious ceremony, then it is up to the religion that is governing the ceremony to decide whether the ceremony between same sexes persons is evil or not. Its certainly not righteous. I don't think any marriage is righteous. Well, then again, that would all depend on the religion.

This is one of those areas where religion and state should not be married. When the state legitimizes a religious ceremony, then you have a problem. I say leave marriage for religion. Leave civil unions for the state.

Well said well said.

They dn't know that themselves.I once asked a gay why in the world would you want to join the church knowing that Homosexuality is not excepted there & its like a black man joining the KKK.He tried to give me that same Lala that all sissies & their freinds try to spread about God being all about love.But I would really like to know were they found that from cuz they can't be talking about the God of the Bible who says "depart from me I know you not." :board2:
and you were saying????


I could go on & on but we both know that faith is really a personal thing between the Believer & his/her God.[/B]


oops did you say that (as in Steve Erkal)

Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. Oh could you please tell me what Jesus said about hypocrits???

and you were saying????



oops did you say that (as in Steve Erkal)

Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. Oh could you please tell me what Jesus said about hypocrits???
Notice Oh Wise One :sarcastic I said that the matter of faith is between the believer & HIS/HER God, not the God of the Bible. :bored:

Notice Oh Wise One :sarcastic I said that the matter of faith is between the believer & HIS/HER God, not the God of the Bible. :bored:

Ok cool I will live with that.
But are there other Gods????

Ok cool I will live with that.
But are there other Gods????
:dgi: Are you trying to be funny?

Answer this question (please)
Why would non-conformist (homosexuals) feel a driving need and/or right to enter into a conformist (traditional marriage between and man and a woman) covenant? :dgi:
Why try and change the conventional system (marriage between a man and a woman) to fit *unconventional behaviour?

*unconventional dehaviour defined as: two men or two women or four women and a man, or ten men and one woman, etc. :what:
Now doesn't this sound outragous?
And were does it end?


I don't get the impression that the effort to re-define marriage as between two consenting adults (of whatever combination) was about conformity as much as it was about creating a legal union that would be recognized by state authorities. My gay friends have had a heckuva time with a partner falling ill or even dying ... and why shouldn't domestic partners raising children be able to include each other in their powers of attorney, medical insurance "family" coverage, life insurance policies, next of kin notifications?

I don't get the impression that the effort to re-define marriage as between two consenting adults (of whatever combination) was about conformity as much as it was about creating a legal union that would be recognized by state authorities. My gay friends have had a heckuva time with a partner falling ill or even dying ... and why shouldn't domestic partners raising children be able to include each other in their powers of attorney, medical insurance "family" coverage, life insurance policies, next of kin notifications?
For the same reason hetrosexual domestic partners can't.What makes a gay couple so much more special than them. :dgi: