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Vicky
04-08-04, - 03:32 PM
Do you believe in unicorns???

Are they pink??

I would like to know what you Christians think.

Rory
04-11-04, - 04:30 PM
unicorns are real, i see them every day :-)
I think they are orangy color.

islandgyal
04-11-04, - 06:11 PM
several unicorns were running along lighthouse beach just the other day ...

Delroy
04-11-04, - 06:16 PM
Is this a church issue Vicky?

Rory
04-11-04, - 07:08 PM
:shaky:

CG
04-11-04, - 08:34 PM
Is this a church issue Vicky?

Could be!

The King James Version speaks of the Unicorn a number of times. They got the idea from the Greeks and Romans.

"Numbers 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
Deuteronomy 39:10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Psalm 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness."

Later translations call the Unicorn an Ox or Bullock. (Once they found out that it never really existed.) (Was the Bible wrong before that?) Is that what you are driving at, Vicky? I only answer this as no one else seems to know.

The Unicorn we "know" of is a horse like creature, sometimes with wings, and sporting one horn. Originally the Unicorn was a beast about the size of a goat. He stood for purity but had a nasty temper. He could only be tamed by a virgin. In Christian stories of the middle ages, they saw the Virgin Mary was the virgin and Jesus the Unicorn.

Most students of the unicorn think that he was mistaken for a Rhinoceros! What a mistake!!

Ejluv
04-12-04, - 12:14 AM
In the Authorized (King James) Version of the Bible we read of God questioning Job (Chapter 39:9,10):

'Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?'

The unicorn is also mentioned in Deuteronomy 33:17, Numbers 23:22, and 24:8, Psalm 22:21; 29:6; 92:10 and Isaiah 34:7. Nowhere in these passages is there any suggestion that anything other than a real animal is being described.


The most important point to remember is that while the Bible writers were inspired and infallible, translations are another thing again. The word used in the Hebrew is 'reem'. This has been translated in various languages as monoceros, unicornis, unicorn, einhorn and eenhorn, all of which mean 'one horn'. However, the word 'reem' is not known to have such a meaning. Many Jewish translations simply left it untranslated, because they were not sure which creature was being referred to.

Archaeology has in fact provided a powerful clue to the likely meaning of 'reem'. Mesopotamian reliefs have been excavated which show King Assurnasirpal hunting oxen with one horn. The associated texts show that this animal was called 'rimu'. It is thus highly likely that this was the 'reem' of the Bible, a wild ox.

It appears that the reason it was shown in Assyrian (but not Egyptian) art as one-horned was as an artistic way of expressing the beauty of the fact that these horns on the 'rimu/reem' were very symmetrical, such that only one could be seen if the animal was viewed from one side. The first to translate the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek probably knew that the 'rimu/reem' was depicted as one-horned, so they translated it as monoceros (one horn).

<this is an excerpt from 'Answersingenesis'>

Vicky
04-13-04, - 12:44 PM
Is this a church issue Vicky?
Yes a Bible issue

Vicky
04-13-04, - 01:09 PM
My Point made. Unicorn is mentioned 9 times in the Bible. Here we see all the different thoughts on the unicorn. You people are trying to justify what a unicorn is in reference to the Bible. What did it mean?? I feel it’s a rhino. But my point is this 1 animal in the Bible that causes confusion about translation, interpretation and the context or what the writer is writing about.
Reference to homosexuality mentioned 4 maybe 5 times if you count the Sodom story but all stemming from the Old Testament. So majority want to have a law preventing homosexual union because of these few writings in the Bible (non of which were taught by Christ) when you can’t even explain unicorn.

Great Demos
04-14-04, - 05:38 PM
My Point made. Unicorn is mentioned 9 times in the Bible. Here we see all the different thoughts on the unicorn. You people are trying to justify what a unicorn is in reference to the Bible. What did it mean?? I feel it’s a rhino. But my point is this 1 animal in the Bible that causes confusion about translation, interpretation and the context or what the writer is writing about.
Reference to homosexuality mentioned 4 maybe 5 times if you count the Sodom story but all stemming from the Old Testament. So majority want to have a law preventing homosexual union because of these few writings in the Bible (non of which were taught by Christ) when you can’t even explain unicorn.


Hi Vicky. Don't you think about why Christ has not mentioned homosexuality in His works? Don't you think that being God, he woulld know His servant St Paul and others would mention it? Don't you think that the idea of homosexual union may be so utterly repulsive to Him, He would think we whom He died for would not go that way?

Then again, He could have talked about it in His other works: Please look at John 21:25.

Great Demos

Vicky
04-16-04, - 10:29 AM
Hi Vicky. Don't you think about why Christ has not mentioned homosexuality in His works? Don't you think that being God, he woulld know His servant St Paul and others would mention it? Don't you think that the idea of homosexual union may be so utterly repulsive to Him, He would think we whom He died for would not go that way?

Then again, He could have talked about it in His other works: Please look at John 21:25.

Great Demos

Great Demos that is the first valid point I have heard in a long time. However I say again if it were that important to Christ it would be in his teachings we read today. Even in the entire Bible homosexuality is only referenced 3 times. 4 if you include effeminate men 5 if you push interpretation of the Sodom story. I know some very masculine homosexuals they are not effeminate at all. Are they less homosexual???

John 21:25 can be said that Christ taught positively about homosexuality but because it was not that big a deal it was not written about.

Here is something I would like you to do. Prove the existence of Christ historically. Not using religious text. It’s just something to think about.

Alien
04-16-04, - 03:01 PM
whatever the human mind can imagine..thee is a possibilty that it is real..in fact to the poitn that i would stake a near 100% claim on it!

Vicky
04-17-04, - 06:25 AM
whatever the human mind can imagine..thee is a possibilty that it is real..in fact to the poitn that i would stake a near 100% claim on it!
We have found fossils of dinosaurs (that are not written about in the Bible) But not 1 fossil of a horse with a horn.

Great Demos
04-18-04, - 03:53 PM
Great Demos that is the first valid point I have heard in a long time. However I say again if it were that important to Christ it would be in his teachings we read today. Even in the entire Bible homosexuality is only referenced 3 times. 4 if you include effeminate men 5 if you push interpretation of the Sodom story. I know some very masculine homosexuals they are not effeminate at all. Are they less homosexual???

John 21:25 can be said that Christ taught positively about homosexuality but because it was not that big a deal it was not written about.





Here is something I would like you to do. Prove the existence of Christ historically. Not using religious text. It’s just something to think about.


OK vicky, I shall touch on this a bit and even poke around on the web to find some history to prove the existence of Christ. I honestly believe there is much in history, apart from the Bible, that can give you sufficient evidence of the existence of Christ.

Some years ago I read a fascinating book entitled "The Mystical Life of Jesus". the writer used to be the top man of a certain well known lodge headquartered in California. He and his crew spent millions of dollars travelling around Jerusalem and other nearby cities, checking with the liabries, etc, and digging up every bit of information about Christ they could find. One of the fascinating things about this is that this so-called famous lodge claimed to have been in existence since the time of Christ (or was it before?), and just about all the info they dug up coincided with the records of the life of Christ which the lodge had gathered since the time He had been on earth! So they regarded their efforts as an independent verification of the lodge's records.

This was a most fascinating book, but I could not agree with the final conclusion of the book which does NOT conform with the holy Bible.

Then there is the the account by the respected historian, Will Durant, the author of the eleven-volume series of books entitled "The Story of Civilization". Volume 3 is entitled "Caesar and Christ". The last 5 chapters of this volume deal with Christ, His Apostles and Christianity in general, and there is much in these chapters to prove the historicity of Christ.

I think you would be facisinated with this account of Christ's life, so much so, that even you might become a believer!

Great Demos

Alien
04-18-04, - 05:17 PM
We have found fossils of dinosaurs (that are not written about in the Bible) But not 1 fossil of a horse with a horn.


we have not found the remains of adamn or eve..but we know that they were here.
we have not seen a dodo, but have its fossils..and that was not written in the bible.

you take this thing of religion and faith to serious..step back an relize it is not ours to graps alone, but for the entire world to share.