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Bahamas Writer
04-21-04, - 12:26 AM
I total agree with most items said here. I don’t think it’s fair that the police can’t find one officer to come to our rescue when our homes are being robbed, nor can they find the man power to investigate and track down the perpetrator when a young teen girl is raped. Yet they can find dozens of men to put on the streets targeting and harassing hardworking Bahamians on their way home from work for a stupid blown tail light. Then that same hardworking Bahamian has to pay for known criminals to be kept in our already crowded prison, when these criminals should be extradited to pay the penalty for their crimes!! They wanna take my couple dollars for a blown light, but these monster criminals are sheltered and protected?! If I were a police who had to book these people driving home from an honest day of work I would be ashamed!!! Targeting honest Bahamians while Criminals roam free. There know where real criminals are. They know where number houses are, they know where drug houses are they know where the files for those dozens of unsolved murder cases are!! They ought to be ashamed!!!!!

You are so right, jcf101. You have it in a nutshell!

Bahamex
04-22-04, - 01:54 AM
I just got booked for "speeding" this morning in Cable Beach. It is totally unfair and maybe a scam to make money out of any resident from the Western District who has to travel East to work each morning.

I was very careful to drive through the Cable Beach pedestrian zone at 25mph because I had the feeling I would see the police with their speed guns by one of the hotels this morning. There were no tourists or anyone trying to cross the street throuhgout the pedestrian crossing zone. By the end of that pedestrian crossing zone (after the Breezes' entrance), one starts getting a little anxious to go a little faster in the 35mph zone located between the golf course and Goodman's Bay. As soon as I got to the sign that says end of 25mph I increased my speed and immediately noticed the police further down the road pointing their speed gun at me and then signaling me to stop and park on the side where the jet ski operators park. I was very upset that they were stopping me after driving so conservatively through the whole hotel zone. The policeman holding the gun showed me the gun displaying 40mph and said: "you are in excess of the 25mph speed limit". I told him there is a sign that reads end of 25mph zone but he showed me that my speed was recorded when I was 293ft. away from the gun, implying I was in the 25mph zone doing 40. I was very upset. A police woman took my information and then I went to complain to another policeman now using the gun that the sign was further away than 293ft. and what they were doing was unfair, when his superior in his khaki atire asked me to leave because I was interrupting their operation. I walked to the sign to calculate an approximate distance between the gun and the sign and it was closer to 330ft.

My point is that they are booking you in an area where there is a transition of speed limits where motorists may have increased their speed to the new speed limit but may not have had an opportunity to adjust or review their speedometer to make sure they did not surpass it by more than 5mph. which is a grace range you get in other countries like the US or the UK.

I am sure they book 95% of the people they put their speed gun on unfairly. Specially in Cable Beach. But who do you complain to to make them stop their foolishness?

Rory
04-22-04, - 02:24 AM
Complaining wont help probably. But keep posting it here, write a letter to the newspapers, and hopefully the people's voice will take some effect, after all we pay the police sallaries.

I think 25mph is pathetic either way, 30-35mph is more sensible, and still a very slow speed. If they put up proper pedestrian crosswalks with a light and a button, then it will also make more sense, and be safer for the pedestrian. Legally a Driver is supposed to have more rights on the road than a pedestrian, as the driver pays to use the road.

If they really want traffic to go so slow, then perhaps they should just make it pedestrian only, put up a larger road in the back of the golf course, with a higher speed limit. Seems they want people to go slower, and hence this will just keep business from getting done on time, and this country will never get anywhere and stay in the 3rd world. Sounds alot like the PLP to me, cant remember, but did the FNM do this same thing or not?? Maybe lets not bring politics into it, as the same Road Traffic management is there from one party to the next.

OT: I still find it hillarious that they have a born again christian in charge of the national security of the Bahamas, with no prior knowledge of such a position. OK, lets look at the US, Rice has years of training with security and more, so cant compare.

Anyway, you are right to stop and question it, and forget that police that told you to move, you have every right. Remember to get a police number when dealing with idiots like that, get all of the police iDs who are on the scene. Measure it by foot if you have to, drive around again and reset your miles and see what it sais, take a digital image from the end of 25mph zone, and where the police are. Heres something, if it sais end of 25mph, then what is the speed limit between that and the 35mph sign, 35, 45???

In the US, we use to use Radar Detectors, perhaps this is a business venture worth going into, this way the people will outsmart the police partaking in these dumb things. Ive never seen any one yet doing any danagerous speeds at Cable Beach, perhaps a Taxi or 2 or Jitneys, but generally they all drive safe speeds (eg. 40mph). How about the jitneys that stop everywhere, why dont the police go around booking them, Hmmmm, maybe because it is easier for them to stand on the side of the road instead of doing actual work!?

They need to go elsewhere, like Eastern Rd, to do 40-50 on Eastern Rd is 100% more dangerous, how about 5-6pm at montagu, when people are cuting in front of drivers waiting for the light, and even running the light, where are the cops then. Honestly, appart from these dumb radar stops, there are no Traffic cops present in Nassau, traffic laws are not abided.

Running red lights, Driving without a licence or insurance, turning without signals, driving SLOOOOW, Not being able to turn a corner for lack of driving experience or old age, etc, are more dangerous than a licenced compentent driver doing a safe 30-40 mph, on a dual carriageway! Anyone that thinks 30-40mph is fast, needs not drive a vehicle.

How about this, a protest with signs, every time they do this, just down the street ahhead of their operation, or turn back and post a sign on a tree! Then noone will get booked and they will go back to the station to play dominos! They will soon get the idea that the bahamian people will not stand for this dumb and ignorant 3rd world injustice.

Question, where do the Road Traffic get their training? They can learn more from watching CHIPS! :D

Note, not all the police are like this, some will listen and act accordingly, their jobs are on the line probably if they protest to do this injustice.

Bahamas Writer
04-22-04, - 09:24 PM
I just got booked for "speeding" this morning in Cable Beach. It is totally unfair and maybe a scam to make money out of any resident from the Western District who has to travel East to work each morning.

I was very careful to drive through the Cable Beach pedestrian zone at 25mph because I had the feeling I would see the police with their speed guns by one of the hotels this morning. There were no tourists or anyone trying to cross the street throuhgout the pedestrian crossing zone. By the end of that pedestrian crossing zone (after the Breezes' entrance), one starts getting a little anxious to go a little faster in the 35mph zone located between the golf course and Goodman's Bay. As soon as I got to the sign that says end of 25mph I increased my speed and immediately noticed the police further down the road pointing their speed gun at me and then signaling me to stop and park on the side where the jet ski operators park. I was very upset that they were stopping me after driving so conservatively through the whole hotel zone. The policeman holding the gun showed me the gun displaying 40mph and said: "you are in excess of the 25mph speed limit". I told him there is a sign that reads end of 25mph zone but he showed me that my speed was recorded when I was 293ft. away from the gun, implying I was in the 25mph zone doing 40. I was very upset. A police woman took my information and then I went to complain to another policeman now using the gun that the sign was further away than 293ft. and what they were doing was unfair, when his superior in his khaki atire asked me to leave because I was interrupting their operation. I walked to the sign to calculate an approximate distance between the gun and the sign and it was closer to 330ft.

My point is that they are booking you in an area where there is a transition of speed limits where motorists may have increased their speed to the new speed limit but may not have had an opportunity to adjust or review their speedometer to make sure they did not surpass it by more than 5mph. which is a grace range you get in other countries like the US or the UK.

I am sure they book 95% of the people they put their speed gun on unfairly. Specially in Cable Beach. But who do you complain to to make them stop their foolishness?

I fully sympathize. This matter MUST be addressed! I see drivers racing through parts of the Cable Beach strip where pedestrians are trying to cross (on crossings!). That’s where the police should be – not hiding behind a tree at the END of the 25 m.p.h. zone!

And why aren’t the police booking jitneys who stop right before pedestrian crossings (instead of beyond the crossings)? Other motorists don’t know whether these jitney drivers are letting pedestrians cross or if they are stopping to pick up passengers (usually the case!). And what about the congestion that occurs when cars stop to pick up staff from the Wyndham? They should be parking across the road - oh, no, staff would have to actually walk across the strip to get their ride! There are so many other infractions which the police are just not dealing with. I could go on and on ……..