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Bahamas News
06-11-07, - 05:07 AM
With only three days left for the Progressive Liberal Party to file its Election Court case, the party?s attorney said Sunday he is completing his preparation to present the necessary documents, including those that prove that non-Bahamians voted in the May 2 General Election.
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pepper
06-11-07, - 05:47 AM
With only three days left for the Progressive Liberal Party to file its Election Court case, the party?s attorney said Sunday he is completing his preparation to present the necessary documents, including those that prove that non-Bahamians voted in the May 2 General Election.
Link To Original Article (http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=12920)
It's interesting that after over forty years Mr Munroe has just now become so concerned about the electoral process.
The PLP is so hypocritcal. I could remember Mr. Ingraham and Brent Symonette warning Perry Christie that how he is running the electoral process would make the worst election ever held in the Bahamas. Mr. Christie in all his wisdom ignored the constitution with regards to the boundaries commission meeting on time. He was warned by Brent Symonette that the boundaries should not be cut up so late, that was why Mr. Symonette did not sign of on the commission report.
All of this only magnifies how incompetent the PLP was as a government. A sovereign Bahamian right as voting they could not protect for us, and they say they care for the small man. I think the PLP loves the power the small man gives them. They don't love the small man, they love what the small man can do for them.
We say when ya dumb ya dangerous, looking at the PLP in action, I can really appreciate this cliche now.
RockWell
06-12-07, - 09:41 PM
It's interesting that after over forty years Mr Munroe has just now become so concerned about the electoral process.
Dollar,dollar bill yeah.
runner6602
06-12-07, - 10:12 PM
one must remember they must produce evidence to the judge,then the judge must decide if there is sufficient evidence for these cases to go forward.
PLP mustbe gat tons of money to take 5 cases to court, bearing in mind each case woould cost an average of 200,000.00.
The FNM had to dish out 235,000.00 for the case they filed after the 2002 election , and that was after negotiations.
casualobserver
06-12-07, - 10:29 PM
one must remember they must produce evidence to the judge,then the judge must decide if there is sufficient evidence for these cases to go forward.
PLP mustbe gat tons of money to take 5 cases to court, bearing in mind each case woould cost an average of 200,000.00.
The FNM had to dish out 235,000.00 for the case they filed after the 2002 election , and that was after negotiations.
And why do you think it cost so much? To whom is that money paid?
LAWYERS!
It's just money shifting from one lawyer (candidate) to another lawyer (counsel) to fight another lawyer (MP) and be adjudicated by yet another lawyer (judge).
Meanwhile the people have a life to live :sailing:
islanbatman
06-15-07, - 11:41 AM
Amen!
LL Cool G
06-15-07, - 11:51 AM
well according to the newspapers....the PLP have filed their papers for election courts. i guess we'll have to see how this all plays out.
watsayu
06-15-07, - 01:00 PM
Last night in between watching the debate and talking politics, one of the questions that we all sort to answer was who would be the election court judge...
Well the Chief Justice has to appoin the judge... so who do you think he will appoint..
Will it be Justice Lyons... (The PLP will have a fit, and will in my view successful have him removed immediately)
Will it be justice Allen... (Someone who lies with Algernon Allen.. I am of the view however tha she will be aceptable to both sides)
But I think that the Chief Justice himself should take it.. or give it to Justice Issac ..
In any event.. I feel the PLP will have an uphill battle.. May GOd b ewith Parry and the PLP...
YorickBrown
06-15-07, - 01:14 PM
I try to stay out of the political threads on this board, but it has to be said that because of all of the hearsay and theories going around, public faith in our electoral process is being undermined slowly but surely.
Politicians on both sides of the fence in this country need to stop making a mockery of our democracy.
What either side has done in the past or will do in the future is indeed important to note, but it seems like our political animals have no regard for what is happening at present. There are too many serious issues to be dealt with for time to be wasted struggling over which party should be "holding the wheel" and which direction the country should be headed.
If we are not careful, this country will "buck up" soon because the "drivers" don't want to pay attention to the road ahead. They're too busy trying to "look in the rear view mirror" or trying to sit/stay in the driver's seat. (And the term "drivers" includes all sides in the governmental process)
Rizzo
06-15-07, - 01:18 PM
The PLP is so hypocritcal. I could remember Mr. Ingraham and Brent Symonette warning Perry Christie that how he is running the electoral process would make the worst election ever held in the Bahamas. Mr. Christie in all his wisdom ignored the constitution with regards to the boundaries commission meeting on time. He was warned by Brent Symonette that the boundaries should not be cut up so late, that was why Mr. Symonette did not sign of on the commission report.
All of this only magnifies how incompetent the PLP was as a government. A sovereign Bahamian right as voting they could not protect for us, and they say they care for the small man. I think the PLP loves the power the small man gives them. They don't love the small man, they love what the small man can do for them.
We say when ya dumb ya dangerous, looking at the PLP in action, I can really appreciate this cliche now.
Brilliant! :hammer:
watsayu
06-17-07, - 03:13 PM
Well the PLP now has permission to proceed with three of its election court cases... of note the first two that were filed were given permission in approximately 15 minutes.. but here is where the rockus came...
PINEWOOD, first allysion former attorney general refused the assistance of Damien and Wayne .. she do not want them any where near her petition... then she came up on a justices that made it difficult for her proceed.. she got drilled... that petition took an unusual 2 plus hours before she was allowed to proceed....
The PLP is expecting to file.. more on Monday...FNMs are so upset... they want to file FOX HILL.. but HI says he do not want to waste is time.. I know a group who is willing to put up the money and do it themselves...we have to see, as voters can also file.
The FNM legal team is led by Michael Barnett, Fred Smith and Michael Scott... a good team.
Man I hear even the attorneys for the PLPs now admits that this is an hail mary throw.. (for this catholic - no disrespect to the blessed mother), but those was the language use by attornys on the PLP at a bar.. following the event...
.. but to each his/her own....
Alien
06-17-07, - 03:17 PM
I try to stay out of the political threads on this board, but it has to be said that because of all of the hearsay and theories going around, public faith in our electoral process is being undermined slowly but surely.
Politicians on both sides of the fence in this country need to stop making a mockery of our democracy.
What either side has done in the past or will do in the future is indeed important to note, but it seems like our political animals have no regard for what is happening at present. There are too many serious issues to be dealt with for time to be wasted struggling over which party should be "holding the wheel" and which direction the country should be headed.
If we are not careful, this country will "buck up" soon because the "drivers" don't want to pay attention to the road ahead. They're too busy trying to "look in the rear view mirror" or trying to sit/stay in the driver's seat. (And the term "drivers" includes all sides in the governmental process)
Dude. If something is wrong with the process, then let us start on the road to fixing that problem.
We can not have foreigners, deciding who wins and who loses elections in the Bahamas. Period.
If you can not deal with anyone trying to FIX the system, then you are not in favour of the Democracy you are trying to preserve; because it is no democracy for the Bahamian people, the way it is now, if a sizeable portion of the people who voted are not supposed to be on the list.
:hammer:
Jeff Lloyd said it, backed up by Errol Bethel; once your name is on the list, then you are on the list. Regardless if you are a foreigner, or not supposed to be there. So we very well may have people, like Mr. Charlow, on the registration list, who are not supposed to be there.
That needs to be sorted out, and sorted out now, before the people whop screwed up, find a way to cover their tail ends.
pharoah
06-17-07, - 03:31 PM
Let us get rid of this silly notion that the PLP is trying to ''fix'' the system. They are trying to win a government. If they wanted to fix the system they would have to done it while they were in power .
The reasoning is very simple, the PLP hope to win in the courts that they were denied at the polls.
The question must be asked: If the PLP had won by the same margin do you think they would have been interested in ''fixing'' the system?
Alien
06-17-07, - 03:36 PM
Let us get rid of this silly notion that the PLP is trying to ''fix'' the system. They are trying to win a government. If they wanted to fix the system they would have to done it while they were in power .
The reasoning is very simple the PLP hope to win in the courts that they were denied at the polls.
The question must be asked: If the PLP had won by the same margin do you think they would have been interested in ''fixing'' the system?
It still needs to be fixed, regardless of the motive.. and since it is broken, then fix it.
You can not by-pass wrong, because the correction comes in a way you happen to not like; the integrity of the system, needs to be fixed regardless of who is trying to show light to the fixing and for whatever reason you feel it is disingenuous!
:hammer:
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