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pharoah
06-20-07, - 01:38 AM
Bahamas among Caribbean leaders for stop over decline.


The Bahamas suffered one of the Caribbean's highest percentage declines in stopover tourist arrivals during the 2007 first quarter, greater than rivals such as Jamaica, Barbados and the US Virgin Islands, something officials yesterday said "underscores the vulnerability that we have" to the US Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI).

During the period from January to March 2007, the Bahamas saw total stopover visitor arrivals fall by 5 per cent compared to 2006 numbers, dropping to 389,597 from 409,077 last year. That represents a drop of some 19,480 tourists, and given that the Ministry of Tourism estimates that per capita visitor spending by stopovers totals $1,020, this could mean that the Bahamas suffered a $19.87 million decline in stopover tourist expenditure during the 2007 first quarter compared to last year.

The Bahamas saw stopover arrivals decline by 5.8 per cent in January 2007, some 8.2 per cent in February, and 2.1 per cent in March.

The 5 per cent decline in stopover visitors to the Bahamas was a greater rate of decrease than that experienced by Barbados, which suffered a 4 per cent drop for the first two months of 2007, and Jamaica, which sustained a 2.1 per cent decline in the first quarter. The US Virgin Islands also experienced a 2.9 per cent decline in stopover visitors during the 2007 first quarter.

Other Caribbean nations, though, were generally headed in the opposite direction when it came to stopover visitor arrivals. The British Virgin islands saw a 1.5 per cent improvement; Bermuda an 8.7 per cent rise; Aruba grew by 6.8 per cent; the Dominican Republic by 1.4 per cent; Guyana by 9.5 per cent; Curacao by 8.9 per cent; and the Cayman Islands by 8.3 per cent.

In response to those figures, Frank Comito, the Bahamas Hotel Association's (BHA) executive vice-president, told The Tribune yesterday: "It certainly underscores the vulnerability that we have, particularly more so than others in the region, to the US passport matter, because of our close proximity to the US and fact that we probably receive a higher percentage of US visitors than anywhere else, other than the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico."

Mr Comito said the WHTI initiative was probably the "top factor" impacting the Bahamas stopover visitor impact during the 2007 first quarter, along with a loss of room inventory and other issues, such as a relatively soft marketing campaign compared to other destinations.

Cancun, meanwhile, and Cozumel had witnessed 56.6 per cent and 35.1 per cent increases respectively in stopover arrivals during the first part of 2007, but Mr Comito pointed out this was probably due to the fact they were up against weak 2006 comparatives as a result of the damage inflicted by Hurricane Wilma.

However, he said both destinations had "invested a tremendous amount in advertising and promotions", and had "invested more in the first quarter than we do in an entire year".

Mr Comito said the BHA was hoping the US would pay further attention to mitigating the WHTI's impact, having already acknowledged problems with a passport application backlog that was leaving many travellers with a 10-12 week wait to receive their documents.

As a result, the Bush administration relaxed the WHTI's implementation until September 30, 2007, for those travellers who could produce receipts showing they had already applied for a passport. Yet this might be "too little, too late".

Mr Comito said the BHA and wider Bahamian tourism industry were hoping the US might consider taking the WHTI relaxation "even further".

He added that the BHA was supporting the vote taken by the House of Representatives last Friday on extending the WHTI implementation date until June 2009 for both land and sea travellers to the Caribbean, as the current arrangements "continue to place us at a further disadvantage with the cruise industry".

Mr Comito said: "The countries [in the Caribbean] are suffering from the shortfall in visitors. You are going to rapidly see governments impacted by this through the impact on tax revenues, as the tourism dollar fails to ripple through the economy in terms of employment, spending and taxes. We're getting a hit on this.

"WHTI is having an impact throughout the region's economies and government tax revenues are declining."

By NEIL HARTNELL Tribune Business Editor

FACTS ONLY
06-20-07, - 07:51 AM
Listen, over the weekend I saw a commercial for coral wave. This commercial was world class. There was Fred Ferguson sitting on a wooden porch playing guitar music by the late great Bahamian, Joseph Spence.

Dancers from the local dance school were dancing to the music. They were in 'native' colorful garments. The dancers moved at the tempo of the music which went faster and faster but at a slow pace if you see what I mean. The speed of the music was to demonstrate how fast the new coral wave will be.

That is the kind of commercial potential tourist should see. We have lost it since the 'Its better in The Bahamas' themes. All the other Caribbean nations have really enticing commercials while we look like we don't exist.

The Ministry of Tourism better talk to the directors of that commercial.

Did any of you see it?

Sunnyjohn
06-20-07, - 08:01 AM
Facts,

That is very true.

They need to have entire commercials on Andros and Abaco and Cat Island and Long Island. Folks know about Nassau.

I've said it a MILLION time on this forum and I'll keep saying it

OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS SUCKS!

Many of us are nice, but the rudeness we show to each other has corrupted the industry. It's time for us to pull it up... (and diversify the economy).


~~~

pharoah
06-20-07, - 08:08 AM
Facts,

That is very true.

They need to have entire commercials on Andros and Abaco and Cat Island and Long Island. Folks know about Nassau.

I've said it a MILLION time on this forum and I'll keep saying it

OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS SUCKS!

Many of us are nice, but the rudeness we show to each other has corrupted the industry. It's time for us to pull it up... (and diversify the economy).


~~~

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head. In addition we need to upgrade our infrastructure and give the tourist something to do when they visit. But diversify is the key going forward. We must have another pillar that we can lean on as the tourism market is not only getting competitive but is very volatile to terrorist attacks and weather systems like hurricanes.

Alien
06-20-07, - 08:15 AM
Will all of yinna jess relax. We have not been marketting the GLOBE the way we should be. We depend too much on American tourists, when we should be DEEP in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

I mean, we should be literally running sunny sunshiney ads in Siberia and Iceland. Just makes perfect sense, as well as, diversifying the nature of the tourism product...what do I mean by that?

Well, we need to diversify the economy in such a way, where we do almost everything for the tourists when they get here. We have to put everything at their fingertips, and move way past straw hats and dolls, and start thinking about other touristy services. We need to connect the islands to Nassau a bit better, and I remember a campaign called hip to hop, which was good, but we need to re-package that again and give it new direction and vigor...

But the main thing is, as we have not branched out even past New York and the upper North East of North America, we have not maximized the way we should in the other U.S. states, the way we have the upper North East.

To top it all off, visitors may be slightly down, but because the U.S. economy has not been kind to us this lap. People just do not have the money to spend, and as a result, they take less trips, they spend less money and they plan trips with meaning rather than just a hop to the Bahamas...

I have been in Europe all this time, and I have never EVER seen an advertisement, about travel packages to the Bahamas...I see Jamaican and Trinidadian ads, but not one Bahamian ad. That is something to think about.

Yahooey
06-20-07, - 08:46 AM
well LNG and oil explpration doesnt look so bad right now! but if you ask me i think they need to allow cruise ships to go to the mainland family islands like eleuthera, exuma and abaco to increase its numbers. i think thats what tourist and cruise ship operators need. and it will help boost the economy of these islands. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

FACTS ONLY
06-20-07, - 09:01 AM
Will all of yinna jess relax. We have not been marketting the GLOBE the way we should be. We depend too much on American tourists, when we should be DEEP in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
I mean, we should be literally running sunny sunshiney ads in Siberia and Iceland. Just makes perfect sense, as well as, diversifying the nature of the tourism product...what do I mean by that?
Well, we need to diversify the economy in such a way, where we do almost everything for the tourists when they get here. We have to put everything at their fingertips, and move way past straw hats and dolls, and start thinking about other touristy services. We need to connect the islands to Nassau a bit better, and I remember a campaign called hip to hop, which was good, but we need to re-package that again and give it new direction and vigor...
But the main thing is, as we have not branched out even past New York and the upper North East of North America, we have not maximized the way we should in the other U.S. states, the way we have the upper North East.
To top it all off, visitors may be slightly down, but because the U.S. economy has not been kind to us this lap. People just do not have the money to spend, and as a result, they take less trips, they spend less money and they plan trips with meaning rather than just a hop to the Bahamas...
I have been in Europe all this time, and I have never EVER seen an advertisement, about travel packages to the Bahamas...I see Jamaican and Trinidadian ads, but not one Bahamian ad. That is something to think about.


Thats why we can't relax. You said it. You claim to be in Europe all this time and have NEVER seen an advertisement about travel packages to The Bahamas. Thats a shame!!

Even Sandals have a damn good commercial.

Over the years we have paid big bucks to major US advertisement firms and I have not been impressed with what they sold us. I mean it takes a few seconds into the commercial to realize its about The Bahamas.

Secondly, if we say Tourism is the number one industry, we have to act like it. There should be a Bahama Host class in each school. If proper manners cannot be learned at home, it should be learned in school. Hopitality classes should also be a must. The major resorts around the world have career jobs now that were not even thought of as being hotel jobs. Jobs like Marine Biology and even Butler services all have to do with hands on tourism.

Far too often young people come into these jobs with the attitude that een no white people tellin me what to do!!:jawdroop:

Alien
06-20-07, - 09:05 AM
Thats why we can't relax. You said it. You claim to be in Europe all this time and have NEVER seen an advertisement about travel packages to The Bahamas. Thats a shame!!
Even Sandals have a damn good commercial.
Over the years we have paid big bucks to major US advertisement firms and I have not been impressed with what they sold us. I mean it takes a few seconds into the commercial to realize its about The Bahamas.
Secondly, if we say Tourism is the number one industry, we have to act like it. There should be a Bahama Host class in each school. If proper manners cannot be learned at home, it should be learned in school. Hopitality classes should also be a must. The major resorts around the world have career jobs now that were not even thought of as being hotel jobs. Jobs like Marine Biology and even Butler services all have to do with hands on tourism.
Far too often young people come into these jobs with the attitude that een no white people tellin me what to do!!:jawdroop:


But you dig my colloquialism, I mean, we have some serious un-explored avenue's in regards to our tourism product. I mean, some serious virgin territory...

I can say for a fact, that my travels through Europe, has shown me that the Bahamas is a name brand in Tourism. Jamaica has Bob Marley, Ganja as well as sun sand and sea...and we compete with them like they were average to us.

This is why I say, we are a festival away from being over 5 million. Trinidad has Carnival..we have Junkanoo for two nights; at best. We need to have a major festival...I mean a HUGE festival around spring break time.

A long azzed promoted weekend of hedonism and frivolity....
:hammer:

FACTS ONLY
06-20-07, - 09:12 AM
But you dig my colloquialism, I mean, we have some serious un-explored avenue's in regards to our tourism product. I mean, some serious virgin territory...
I can say for a fact, that my travels through Europe, has shown me that the Bahamas is a name brand in Tourism. Jamaica has Bob Marley, Ganja as well as sun sand and sea...and we compete with them like they were average to us.
This is why I say, we are a festival away from being over 5 million. Trinidad has Carnival..we have Junkanoo for two nights; at best. We need to have a major festival...I mean a HUGE festival around spring break time.
A long azzed promoted weekend of hedonism and frivolity....
:hammer:



MUDDOES.............. MONKEY FOOT...........KISS MS VICKY DAWTER....I agree with ALIEN/YK..!!:bouncy:

adidasboi987
06-20-07, - 09:13 AM
But you dig my colloquialism, I mean, we have some serious un-explored avenue's in regards to our tourism product. I mean, some serious virgin territory...
I can say for a fact, that my travels through Europe, has shown me that the Bahamas is a name brand in Tourism. Jamaica has Bob Marley, Ganja as well as sun sand and sea...and we compete with them like they were average to us.
This is why I say, we are a festival away from being over 5 million. Trinidad has Carnival..we have Junkanoo for two nights; at best. We need to have a major festival...I mean a HUGE festival around spring break time.
A long azzed promoted weekend of hedonism and frivolity....
:hammer:

LOL...

didnt the former MOT suggest that we should target european markets??...did that plan fall through??...i thought it was a good idea

Alien
06-20-07, - 09:17 AM
LOL...
didnt the former MOT suggest that we should target european markets??...did that plan fall through??...i thought it was a good idea


Well I een see no ads, not even in the UK. This is where all of the U.S.s money is comming to; places like the U.K, France and Switzerland.

Along with budding economies in the "New Europe"...eastern Europe...we have yet to even touch their fattening pockets.

I am not sure about Asia, but hey, Chiney mand gat money too.
:voodoo:

chancellor
06-20-07, - 09:17 AM
Why is everything being blamed on the damn Passport Initiative?

These cruise lines esspecially Royal Carribean have been for years, complaining about the state of Nassau Harbour and the damage it does to its ships. We have yet to address that and you want to know Why Royal Carribean is pulling out of Nassau?

And if anyone has been paying attention, the cruise lines have been jumping over each other to start up European Cruises...Venice as one of the most popular destinations. Don't you need a passport for those destinations too?

1bigfrog
06-20-07, - 09:17 AM
Listen, over the weekend I saw a commercial for coral wave. This commercial was world class. There was Fred Ferguson sitting on a wooden porch playing guitar music by the late great Bahamian, Joseph Spence.
Dancers from the local dance school were dancing to the music. They were in 'native' colorful garments. The dancers moved at the tempo of the music which went faster and faster but at a slow pace if you see what I mean. The speed of the music was to demonstrate how fast the new coral wave will be.
That is the kind of commercial potential tourist should see. We have lost it since the 'Its better in The Bahamas' themes. All the other Caribbean nations have really enticing commercials while we look like we don't exist.
The Ministry of Tourism better talk to the directors of that commercial.
Did any of you see it?

Is there such a thing as Bahamian native garments...
But it was a good comercial...the garments were neo-colonial...

Sunnyjohn
06-20-07, - 09:18 AM
Junkanoo can be easily turned into a three night festival the size of Brazil's Carnival in Rio or Bahia.

A Junkanoodrome holding 50,000 in real seating sold for $15 a ticket is the first step.

I am sure the Junkanoo groups would be delighted.

~~

P.s. Can someone put the commercial on Youtube then post a link?

chancellor
06-20-07, - 09:19 AM
Well I een see no ads, not even in the UK. This is where all of the U.S.s money is comming to; places like the U.K, France and Switzerland.
Along with budding economies in the "New Europe"...eastern Europe...we have yet to even touch their fattening pockets.
I am not sure about Asia, but hey, Chiney mand gat money too.
:voodoo:


I did say for a while get to Europe and get those Euros in here. But nooooooooooo yall still gone to tired old New York with "Bahamavention".