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Alien
06-21-07, - 11:51 AM
And why is sunny being a instigator!?!
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Sunnyjohn
06-21-07, - 11:54 AM
And why is sunny being a instigator!?!
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Well if Deacon Jeff & Carl Bethel can borrow our BI talking points, Imma' keep bumping da good threads so others in the gubment can get a few tips.


BI is da shadow gubment! hehehehe :p

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Alien
06-21-07, - 12:03 PM
Well if Deacon Jeff & Carl Bethel can borrow our BI talking points, Imma' keep bumping da good threads so others in the gubment can get a few tips.
BI is da shadow gubment! hehehehe :p
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I did stop dis, because to be honest, some of these guys don't deserve it. They only use it for their own talking points, don't give you credit, and then they sound smart while they muck up your plan the way you see it working.

I started being vague on purpose for the most part, and allot of the things I talk about, especially with Lurker, only he I and a few other people can follow in any event. So, I have no fear of them using my "deep" talking points, because they have no idea on how to use it properly anyways...let along implement it. Yes...I do insult their intelligence.
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But on the smaller less complex things, which are obvious to all of us, I would much rather see us discuss them, rather than muck around in it, because we all have some idea on what we need to get better....We can make it easier for them, as to not allow them to be bogged down in all of the day to day simple tasks...but, our gems we should always hold close to our vests, because, to say again, most of them are not worth it. As you see with Bethel, he just wants to use a few fancy talking points, and then say he is doing something, without even giving any regard to how what he says will work.
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Sunnyjohn
06-21-07, - 12:08 PM
Don't worry, I keep my business plans close to my vest. I just ask questions and use BI as a sounding board. Folks here are very helpful.

I have no problem discussing education, health, the police or CSME, but their are too many who are too shallow to do their own deep thinking who would take/steal your ideas.

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Alien
06-21-07, - 12:15 PM
Don't worry, I keep my business plans close to my vest. I just ask questions and use BI as a sounding board. Folks here are very helpful.
I have no problem discussing education, health, the police or CSME, but their are too many who are too shallow to do their own deep thinking who would take/steal your ideas.
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There ya go....it's only preserving the integrity of your accomplishments.

Alien
06-21-07, - 06:36 PM
We are slowly, but surely losing the first pillar of our economy. Tourism in the Caribbean is a mature product and will really tank in the 2008 - 2009 time frame. I have a reference for that statement, but it een handy now (some Caribbean think tank - or more accurately some think tank hired for CARICOM and tourism).
Actually the paradigm shift came Sept 11. It deadened us, but we picked up and got to 5 million arrivals in 2005. But that 5 million figure was the 'good' side of the paradigm shift. Folks were afraid to travel far, and the Bahamas was safe. But now that the bogeyman of world terrorism is a named fear and many feel safer than 5 years ago, folks are travelling and other places are eating our lunch. Then came the passport laws and the WHTI. And this will have a bad side for us. Many Americans came to the Bahamas because they didn't need a passport. But now that they have a passport, they are saying things like: Let's try Paris, or New Zealand or Singapore.
I got a book that I want you to read YK. If you are in Nassau in the July timeframe, I will have it sent to you. It is called "Black Swan" and it is by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. He is a finance guru, but this book is about something completely different. His thesis is that history is dominated by highly disruptive, improbable, unforeseeable events with the lulls in between. He calls these Black Swans.
Black Swans confound our expectations of the world (including the world of the Bahamas). In other words, tings go along, and then all of a sudden -- blam -- tings een what they used to be. 9-11 was a Black Swan. Nothing is the same ever since. Black Swans can be good or bad, and the bad side can have a bit of good.
A Bahamian Black Swan was the two hurricanes in a row on Grand Bahama. It was so disruptive that folks still een recovered. And Black Swans cannot be predicted. After they happen, we think that it is reasonable to predict them, but really they cannot be.
So the upshot, is always be prepared. Always have a plan B. If you are not improving, you are losing ground. And YK, that is the race. That is the hurry. The prize is the well-being and happiness of our little nation -- a far cast archipelago string of pearls in a blue ocean.
To the victors go the spoils, but we are competing with ourselves. We need to wipe out crime, we need to educate the masses. We need to empower them, and we need to make them as rich as possible while preserving the environment. We are but stewards of this country. We owe it that much, in exchange for its patrimonial munificence. And that is quest for all of us.


I hear you ya know. It is not that I am deathly afraid of trade, in fact, it will give an idiot like me a job and I know what the advantages are. But I een ga sell ya down da river, willy nilly, and not try to get da best fa us. I een ga do dat to ya nah....some others will. With that, we need to see the system for what it is; and it is not truly rules based, and the guys giving you advice, are not in the business of knowing how to give developing countries sound advice.

No one can predict the future, but if we go the route the other way, it has deeper consequences than what we have now. So my thing is, let's go about it the right way, and the right way is not pushing forward with any one way, without knowing what we have and how to entrench what we have, for our advantage. It will only serve us good.

I will google the book...and will try to see if I can get it on my netlibrary database if google does not work out. Or, at the very least, see if it is in a bookstore here or the library.