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Vicky
05-06-04, - 07:22 PM
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kripston/homosexuality/

The purpose of this site is to educate people about the causes of homosexuality. I think that if people were to understand homosexuality better, they would be more apt to accept people with different sexual preferences and they would hold less prejudices against them. I know before I did any research on homosexuality I felt that homosexuality was unnatural and a crime against nature because it wasn't the accepted standard. Now I have realized that homosexuality is not a crime against nature, and it is a naturally ocurring phenomenon. I hope that others will find my research of the causes of homosexuality useful, and maybe the information may help to shape others' opinions on the matter, as it has shaped mine.

Hi Cedric you asked about proof check this out.

k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e
05-06-04, - 09:26 PM
i might have missed it but i did not see the fact that many people turn to homosexuality out of a result of just boredom with the opposite sex and a need for new excitement. that and the fact that they just strike out with the opposite sex so much that they give up. but it's whatever, good for him that he had a change of mind but the overuse of rainbows started to make me think that he himself was infact a latent homosexual.

Delroy
05-06-04, - 11:02 PM
I got dizzy when I opened that page.

Caution: Please protect eyes before clicking the link above. :cool:

Ejluv
05-06-04, - 11:25 PM
Vicky,

I could tell by the website that whoever put that up there was biased.

And, the research work that was done, more than likely were done on a focus group and many of them were done in the very beginning asking for 'gay' men to step forward to do the studies.

I have been around many people that have canvased areas that are highly populated in the very beginning of the 'polls' or 'surveys' being conducted, knowing very well that in that area, it would serve their personal cause.

As I had stated on another issue on this website that over the last 15 years that I have sat down and had long heart-to-heart talks with gays and lesbians that have actually confided in me in their backgrounds and conveyed what their childhood was like, being unpopular as a maturing person, not being noticed by the opposite sex. going through traumatic experiences that they still have not let loose of, and still not really trusting in themselves or other people. The majority of them are experiencing alot of pyschological/mental distress.
You find many of them that have distanced themselves from their families due to being ashamed and actually admitting that they know that their lifestyle is not right but that is where they feel that they are the most accepted and they get to do what they want to do.
I am not saying that all of them that I have met are like that but the majority. I know a few couples that have been together for over 30 years but, at the same time they are mentally, pyschologically, emotionally stable NOW is caused only by this long period of time feeling secure with their partner.
Now, here is the kicker, and I found this so unbelievable when it happened.
These two men were together for all these years. Two years ago, one dies.
He dies of natural causes, nothing associated with any 'gay' diseases IF anyone should be thinking that. I was in the area where they lived and decided to stop in and see how the survivor was coping with things. I had heard from others that he was not socializing with them as he and his partner used to so I just wanted to make sure how things were. He informed me that he was now dating a woman and that things were going really well for them in their relationship. I tried not to pry but of course, I wanted to know... well... did she know that he was gay? did she know of his past? IF so, how did this all come about?
He looked at me, cause I know that my mouth was probably open wide with amazement, and told me that he realized that the love for this man was all these years was geniune but not out of being in love with him. He felt so grateful for this man that he had lived with all these years that had been there for him when no one else was. He cared about him enough to stick by him as he had promised but that many years earlier He let the man know he was realizing that this was not what he was meant to do and the relationship was not what he really wanted. He further informed me that he had been secretly seeing this woman for the last 6 years and that his 'partner' had known about her all that time. So, I do feel deep down inside that it is not genetics and that it is an emotional, pyschological,and mental disturbance and that some do get themselves away from that lifestyle and come to terms with whatever happened in the past to them and find themselves again.
As I have said before, all of us are humans and all of us have our faults and our weaknesses of many worldly things. But, I will not condemn any of them and will always love, hug, invite in my house, go to lunch with, have a great shopping trip with, share happy and sad times with them for they are human and they have feelings and desires, hurts and pains. God tells us to love and his guiding spirit is within me. I will stand to protect all that are right before our Creator and I will do my best to support what is right and just. No, I will not condone or agree that being gay or lesbian is ok, and I will pray for them to find themselves. Be at peace within themselves and not be gay! Not give in to the perversions, be strong in flesh, in mind, in heart, in spirit, and in soul.

Vicky
05-07-04, - 02:41 PM
i might have missed it but i did not see the fact that many people turn to homosexuality out of a result of just boredom with the opposite sex and a need for new excitement. that and the fact that they just strike out with the opposite sex so much that they give up. but it's whatever, good for him that he had a change of mind but the overuse of rainbows started to make me think that he himself was infact a latent homosexual.

Sorry no one turns homosexual because of boredom. But here is a thought. You have someone who denies his or her homosexuality and tries the straight path. But because the person is homosexual they find no drive or excitement in the opposite sex.
After all for me wearing male clothes is boring. I just don't look right but you would not think so.
.

k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e
05-07-04, - 04:13 PM
Sorry no one turns homosexual because of boredom. But here is a thought. You have someone who denies his or her homosexuality and tries the straight path. But because the person is homosexual they find no drive or excitement in the opposite sex.
After all for me wearing male clothes is boring. I just don't look right but you would not think so.
.

*shakes head* are you serious? are you HONESTLY trying to tell me that some people don't enter homosexual acts for a need to find a new form of entertainment (or that it's impossible)? if so, then i now know what you are getting at.

Vicky
05-07-04, - 04:29 PM
Vicky,

I could tell by the website that whoever put that up there was biased.

And, the research work that was done, more than likely were done on a focus group and many of them were done in the very beginning asking for 'gay' men to step forward to do the studies.

I have been around many people that have canvased areas that are highly populated in the very beginning of the 'polls' or 'surveys' being conducted, knowing very well that in that area, it would serve their personal cause.

As I had stated on another issue on this website that over the last 15 years that I have sat down and had long heart-to-heart talks with gays and lesbians that have actually confided in me in their backgrounds and conveyed what their childhood was like, being unpopular as a maturing person, not being noticed by the opposite sex. going through traumatic experiences that they still have not let loose of, and still not really trusting in themselves or other people. The majority of them are experiencing alot of pyschological/mental distress.
You find many of them that have distanced themselves from their families due to being ashamed and actually admitting that they know that their lifestyle is not right but that is where they feel that they are the most accepted and they get to do what they want to do.

Have you ever considered that this distress is caused by having to hide who you are, by having to live a lie, by all the people around you hating who you are. I know, I was there with my gender dysphoria. I lied to my parents many a time to hide what I was. I love my parents I hated my self for lying to them. Do you have any clue what its like to fear for your life to have to look over your shoulder all the time, just because of who you are. Even Peter feared for his life before the rooster crowed thee times. Social pressure made him deny who he was. But after I found out I was a normal person just society choose not to accept people like me I told my parents. But I told my Mom she said I new you were different and she thought I was gay. I told my Dad he said I got 2 for the price of 1. So here it is all these years I hated my self for nothing.

I am not saying that all of them that I have met are like that but the majority.

Take a moment find out if the ones with the most distress are the older generation. In the Transgender community it is well known that the older the transgender to more issues of fear self hate and guilt they have.
I know a few couples that have been together for over 30 years but, at the same time they are mentally, pyschologically, emotionally stable NOW is caused only by this long period of time feeling secure with their partner.
Now, here is the kicker, and I found this so unbelievable when it happened.
These two men were together for all these years. Two years ago, one dies.
He dies of natural causes, nothing associated with any 'gay' diseases IF anyone should be thinking that. I was in the area where they lived and decided to stop in and see how the survivor was coping with things. I had heard from others that he was not socializing with them as he and his partner used to so I just wanted to make sure how things were. He informed me that he was now dating a woman and that things were going really well for them in their relationship. I tried not to pry but of course, I wanted to know... well... did she know that he was gay? did she know of his past? IF so, how did this all come about?
He looked at me, cause I know that my mouth was probably open wide with amazement, and told me that he realized that the love for this man was all these years was geniune but not out of being in love with him. He felt so grateful for this man that he had lived with all these years that had been there for him when no one else was. He cared about him enough to stick by him as he had promised but that many years earlier He let the man know he was realizing that this was not what he was meant to do and the relationship was not what he really wanted. He further informed me that he had been secretly seeing this woman for the last 6 years and that his 'partner' had known about her all that time. So, I do feel deep down inside that it is not genetics and that it is an emotional, pyschological,and mental disturbance and that some do get themselves away from that lifestyle and come to terms with whatever happened in the past to them and find themselves again.

Nothing happened in my past except for me knowing society would not accept me.
As for you friend he might be bisexual. Or he maybe giving into society and purging him self. (that’s what a transgender person does when they throw away all their items of the opposite sex and say never again because they feel so guilty a guilt brought on by society. Purging has lasted at the most for a few years.) Its like a left handed person living in 1492 (familiar date) would live as if they were right handed because if they did not, discrimination and persecution were quick to find them. That like saying I was once left-handed but I am right handed now. Or I was just caught up in the left-handed life style but I am right handed now. Why would the person appear to change from being left handed to right handed. Because of discrimination and persecution it’s the same for homosexuals now a days.


As I have said before, all of us are humans and all of us have our faults and our weaknesses of many worldly things. But, I will not condemn any of them and will always love, hug, invite in my house, go to lunch with, have a great shopping trip with, share happy and sad times with them for they are human and they have feelings and desires, hurts and pains. God tells us to love and his guiding spirit is within me. I will stand to protect all that are right before our Creator and I will do my best to support what is right and just. No, I will not condone or agree that being gay or lesbian is ok, and I will pray for them to find themselves. Be at peace within themselves and not be gay! Not give in to the perversions, be strong in flesh, in mind, in heart, in spirit, and in soul.

Vicky
05-07-04, - 04:38 PM
*shakes head* are you serious? are you HONESTLY trying to tell me that some people don't enter homosexual acts for a need to find a new form of entertainment (or that it's impossible)? if so, then i now know what you are getting at.

ah not imposable for someone to do homosexual act but they are not homosexual they are promiscuous. You see homosexuality as sex. Homosexuality is about love as well. Sex is sex love is love

Sorry just read what I posted and did a grammar correction.

k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e
05-07-04, - 04:46 PM
then you should have clearly defined what your definition was from the get go. but it still doesnt change anything, it's still a homosexual act. Regardless of whether or not feelings were involved.

Vicky
05-09-04, - 10:45 AM
I got dizzy when I opened that page.

Caution: Please protect eyes before clicking the link above. :cool:

Delroy did you read any of it??

Delroy
05-09-04, - 11:18 AM
Delroy did you read any of it??

Yes I did Vicky.

Vicky
05-09-04, - 08:45 PM
Yes I did Vicky.
Did you check out the left handed web site??

Delroy
05-09-04, - 10:01 PM
Did you check out the left handed web site??

No I didn't.
I know what causes Homosexuality.

Ejluv
05-10-04, - 10:34 AM
Bottom line:

There are many things that us as humans become weak for. Weakness for these things can cause a person's soul/spirit to become unclean. They are only a moment in time and are not of what our true needs are. Most generally they are of a selfish desire and the decisions made to gain them or have what we need are not thoroughly thought through but done so in haste.
As I sit here there are many things that would be nice to have like a new house, a new car, more money, oh yes, and even a good partner in life but it is how one goes about getting these things as to whether it is good for the innerbeing.
Realising that yes, I am only human and humans do make mistakes I know that I have to be patient and know that all things that i gain is for not only my use but what I can use to help others along the way.
With all that I am, I wait patiently for I know that my needs (God knows my heart) will be met and the purpose that I am to serve will be shown to me.
I just hope that each of us as we go through this life is more in tune with doing what the Holy Spirit wants us to do and not take things in our own hands without that guidance because if you do, you are never going to reach the full potential that is in store for you!
In all the turmoil, heartache, and pain it is easy to lose sight so that is when I pull upon my higher power to guide me and console me knowing full well that I will personally be rewarded and be able to be a blessing to another than one of hindrance.
With any confusions in life, be patient and pray for complete understanding before you make any haste decisions. Have faith and it will be shown to you.

Vicky
05-10-04, - 11:01 AM
No I didn't.
I know what causes Homosexuality.

So what do feel causes homosexuality???