The Bahamas since Independence.
Before that it was British Culture.


I beg to differ, we where modeled on the british style and highly influenced but we where not British by a long shot, look at the distance between us and them. If anything since independence we have lost more of our culture due to the world getting smaller and the way we are bombarded by T.V. and now the web. Before you had those we where pretty much isolated and only a few went to england or the U.S. thus we had OUR culture. Now i would say that most of our culture is being derived from the U.S., just got talk to the kids of today, they know nothing of say hauling for jacks, welking, sailing(thats getting better, thanks BSA) or many other uniquely Bahamian things.

I beg to differ, we where modeled on the british style and highly influenced but we where not British by a long shot, look at the distance between us and them. If anything since independence we have lost more of our culture due to the world getting smaller and the way we are bombarded by T.V. and now the web. Before you had those we where pretty much isolated and only a few went to england or the U.S. thus we had OUR culture. Now i would say that most of our culture is being derived from the U.S., just got talk to the kids of today, they know nothing of say hauling for jacks, welking, sailing(thats getting better, thanks BSA) or many other uniquely Bahamian things.

Our culture was mostly imported here from the US and other countries to begin with.
Those countries also imported it from elsewhere.

Also, most of what you mentioned are not uniquely Bahamian. Fishing and sailing is done all over the globe. Also fishing and sailing is still popular in the outislands, where there isnt anything else to do.

There's more choices of things to do these days, at least in the cities, which to me is a good thing. If one still wants that Bahamian "experience", which some call culture, they can still get that in the outislands for the most part.

I feel a cultural erosion of our way of life truly setting in.
Does anyone else have that feeling?

Yes, erosion by some going away to LSE instead of COB :shaky:

I feel a cultural erosion of our way of life truly setting in.
Does anyone else have that feeling?



Thus is the result of globalization.

Ahh come on, we gat a ton of culture other than Junkanoo. It's right before our very eyes.

We got obeah, bush tea, cuckoo soup, singers like Ronnie Butler, KB, we gat rake 'n scrape, we got our conch dishes, we got our painters like Amos Ferguson, Eddie Minnis, and we will be telling stories of our own 'crazy' abstract artist Kendall Hanna. We gat guys like Burnside, and architects like Anthony Jervis. We have bonefishing guides who are legends in North American piscatorial circuits. We have our own national batik fabric. We have colourful curmudgeons and storytellers like James Catalyn. We have John Canoe, and Woodes Rogers. We have the campari tree. We have the Great Bimini Road and links to the lost continent of Atlantis. We have the cachet of being the glitz and glamour of James Bond. We have this and more. We have our sowse, and our dishes. Sunday and crab cakes and church, with women's hats as big as condominiums. We have our sky juice, our rum, our reefs, and our own accent. We definitely have culture, and it is right in front of our noses. And it is evolving.

Ahh come on, we gat a ton of culture other than Junkanoo. It's right before our very eyes.
We got obeah, bush tea, cuckoo soup, singers like Ronnie Butler, KB, we gat rake 'n scrape, we got our conch dishes, we got our painters like Amos Ferguson, Eddie Minnis, and we will be telling stories of our own 'crazy' abstract artist Kendall Hanna. We gat guys like Burnside, and architects like Anthony Jervis. We have bonefishing guides who are legends in North American piscatorial circuits. We have our own national batik fabric. We have colourful curmudgeons and storytellers like James Catalyn. We have John Canoe, and Woodes Rogers. We have the campari tree. We have the Great Bimini Road and links to the lost continent of Atlantis. We have the cachet of being the glitz and glamour of James Bond. We have this and more. We have our sowse, and our dishes. Sunday and crab cakes and church, with women's hats as big as condominiums. We have our sky juice, our rum, our reefs, and our own accent. We definitely have culture, and it is right in front of our noses. And it is evolving.


And the frog said "CORRECT!"

I think we are losing our culture slowly but surly. Soon enough we will be so americanised we will Have more of a yankee accent than an english one, you can already hear it now on the streets. We will never lose junkanoo but that is the only example I can give that I do not think we will lose.

give me examples of what all we have lost...or are losing.

Ahh come on, we gat a ton of culture other than Junkanoo. It's right before our very eyes.
We got obeah, bush tea, cuckoo soup, singers like Ronnie Butler, KB, we gat rake 'n scrape, we got our conch dishes, we got our painters like Amos Ferguson, Eddie Minnis, and we will be telling stories of our own 'crazy' abstract artist Kendall Hanna. We gat guys like Burnside, and architects like Anthony Jervis. We have bonefishing guides who are legends in North American piscatorial circuits. We have our own national batik fabric. We have colourful curmudgeons and storytellers like James Catalyn. We have John Canoe, and Woodes Rogers. We have the campari tree. We have the Great Bimini Road and links to the lost continent of Atlantis. We have the cachet of being the glitz and glamour of James Bond. We have this and more. We have our sowse, and our dishes. Sunday and crab cakes and church, with women's hats as big as condominiums. We have our sky juice, our rum, our reefs, and our own accent. We definitely have culture, and it is right in front of our noses. And it is evolving.

Didn't wintergrace say Obeah is illegal in the Bahamas?
Plus, I always wondered about that national batik fabric thingy...how can it be national if only one company makes it, and the owners are foreign...Didn't we import the way that is made. I see all over canada does the same "androsia" print...they just call it something else.

give me examples of what all we have lost...or are losing.


Rake and scrape and native music is becoming less of a fixture.

It is sad. Joe Spence and the Pinders are legends among rock musicians all over the world. The man was a miracle worker on the guitar.
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Rake and scrape and native music is becoming less of a fixture.
It is sad. Joe Spence and the Pinders are legends among rock musicians all over the world. The man was a miracle worker on the guitar.
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Sunny I disagree...
I was born in the late 70's and there was no rake and scrape...just rap...I remember 8 track but that was that black american music...a lot of clarence Carter, pointer sisters etc...in 80 there was pop and michael jackson, in the 90s there was reggae and now in 2k there is a mixture and Bahamian music actually doing well with captivating the Bahamaian audience. Now you can see young Bahamians doing that African shuffle we now claiming is ah own to rake and scrape.

Joe Spence and Pinders were before the majority of Bahamians now living time. Which era was that? Moreso until recently, when you say rake in scrape you have to play music of people who perhaps no longer sings or dead.

I remember when people off Market Street use to practice Obeah openly...those were the good old days...until them Baptist people say it was evil and killed part of our culture. Those frigging baptist.

Obeah is illegal?

I thought religion was protected under our Constitution?

I ein supporting da Obeah woman, but what are they charged with when they are arrested?

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Obeah is illegal?
I thought religion was protected under our Constitution?
I ein supporting da Obeah woman, but what are they charged with when they are arrested?
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I don't know...but I remember this small store on market street that use to sell candles and dream books and lucky charms etc...her yard use to be stink with incense...Bahamians use to flock there, to get their dream books to interpret their dreams...its a dying culture....we need to start promoting obeah again.

Sunny I disagree...
I was born in the late 70's and there was no rake and scrape...just rap...I remember 8 track but that was that black american music...a lot of clarence Carter, pointer sisters etc...in 80 there was pop and michael jackson, in the 90s there was reggae and now in 2k there is a mixture and Bahamian music actually doing well with captivating the Bahamaian audience. Now you can see young Bahamians doing that African shuffle we now claiming is ah own to rake and scrape.
Joe Spence and Pinders were before the majority of Bahamians now living time. Which era was that? Moreso until recently, when you say rake in scrape you have to play music of people who perhaps no longer sings or dead.

Nah man .. my dad still plays all that stuff.

Nah man .. my dad still plays all that stuff.



Does your Pop have any of the original old Spence records?