Does your Pop have any of the original old Spence records?

dunno, but he plays bahamian music. was doing that from the 50's/60's in the islands and here in Nassau. I never heard of this spence fellow until you mentioned him.

dunno, but he plays bahamian music. was doing that from the 50's/60's in the islands and here in Nassau. I never heard of this spence fellow until you mentioned him.



Ask your Dad about him. I'm sure he would know.

examples?

culture can't disappear...it just keeps evolving like rory said....
it is just becoming something different...and we have to sort out what it is...but we all contribute to its changing shape...
culture is simply what we are and what we are doing...it can't disappear...

culture can't disappear...it just keeps evolving like rory said....
it is just becoming something different...and we have to sort out what it is...but we all contribute to its changing shape...
culture is simply what we are and what we are doing...it can't disappear...


EXACTLY.

now maybe some of our traditions and customs are dying off.....but a culture doesn't disappear.

besides, even from the beginning of 'BAHAMIAN' culture, we were fashioning ourselves after what the 'foreigners' brought to our shores. in fact, just about everything that we claim as 'Bahamian" was taught to us/brought to us by another country.

dunno, but he plays bahamian music. was doing that from the 50's/60's in the islands and here in Nassau. I never heard of this spence fellow until you mentioned him.



In another post, Lurker mentioned some aspects of Bahamian culture, most of what he mentioned however was from a black Bahamian point of view. I only gathered that based on the names he called.

Can you share with us some cultureal point of views from a white Bahamian.
What about our culture that you cherish and cannot do without, or will miss if you don't see or get?

Sunny I disagree...
I was born in the late 70's and there was no rake and scrape...just rap...I remember 8 track but that was that black american music...a lot of clarence Carter, pointer sisters etc...in 80 there was pop and michael jackson, in the 90s there was reggae and now in 2k there is a mixture and Bahamian music actually doing well with captivating the Bahamaian audience. Now you can see young Bahamians doing that African shuffle we now claiming is ah own to rake and scrape.
Joe Spence and Pinders were before the majority of Bahamians now living time. Which era was that? Moreso until recently, when you say rake in scrape you have to play music of people who perhaps no longer sings or dead.


I agree with this the most!

I hear my parents and other people of earlier generations talk about how Bahamian things are dying and sometimes cringe at out liking for more foreign artist and styles..even when Bahamians use it. But looking at some of the flshbacks things were no different esspecially in the cities. No one wore androsia, everyone wore American styles of the 50s 60s and 70's Bell bottoms, oversized collars, oversized ties, afros. I looked at a pic of my parents in the 70's and my mom had an afro! :what: My Dad's favorite artists which he still plays are Al Green, Sam Cooke, Teddy Pendergras, Otis Redding. Even smokky 007...a Bahamian sang mostly American lyrics....... Their freinds went to the disco as much as my generation goes to the clubs....PRAY TELL ME WHAT WAS BAHAMIAN ABOUT THAT? I don't think my parents could name off a Bahamian artist who played orginal songs much less rake and scrape. They only had the same things we have now...Junkanoo, Regatta, and conch.

culture can't disappear...it just keeps evolving like rory said....
it is just becoming something different...and we have to sort out what it is...but we all contribute to its changing shape...
culture is simply what we are and what we are doing...it can't disappear...


I really don't know, but I'll tell you this.

One really hot day last summer, my family and I decided to hop on the Bo Hengy for a trip to Harbour Island. I hadn't been there for about 10 years and still had good memories.

I don't know if all the Brilander's moved back from Nassau, but look here, there were large trucks and jeeps competing for space along with the little golf carts on the tiny little 'streets' of Briland. It was amazing to see!! Years ago someone should've decided that Briland needed to stay quiet and quiant(sp).

There should be RIGHT NOW, a limit to vehicles and its sizes.

We decided to get off the street since we valued our lives.

My sons wanted to taste some old fashioned tarts that I used to bragg about. You remember, the CRISP, HOT and FRESH coconut and pineapple tarts. The ones that you cannot find here anymore.

We asked the residents to direct us to the best bakery. I can't recall the name but you could smell fresh bread being baked from the street.

I got excited.

So, I order enough to eat in Briland, enough for the trip back home, and enough to share out when we got back.

We paid about $30 for the tarts and took them to eat on the beach.

First bite into the coconut tart was a disaster. Those lazy buggers used coconut frigg in flakes that you buy from the foodstore instead of grating the dam thing. Even though the crust looked hard in the shop it was DEAD soft and frigg in LIMP.

Even my boys threw their's away.

I found the nearest bin to throw the rest in.

My Gawd, if an island bakery can't do good tarts, whats next.:realmad:

I really don't know, but I'll tell you this.
One really hot day last summer, my family and I decided to hop on the Bo Hengy for a trip to Harbour Island. I hadn't been there for about 10 years and still had good memories.
I don't know if all the Brilander's moved back from Nassau, but look here, there were large trucks and jeeps competing for space along with the little golf carts on the tiny little 'streets' of Briland. It was amazing to see!! Years ago someone should've decided that Briland needed to stay quiet and quiant(sp).
There should be RIGHT NOW, a limit to vehicles and its sizes.
We decided to get off the street since we valued our lives.
My sons wanted to taste some old fashioned tarts that I used to bragg about. You remember, the CRISP, HOT and FRESH coconut and pineapple tarts. The ones that you cannot find here anymore.
We asked the residents to direct us to the best bakery. I can't recall the name but you could smell fresh bread being baked from the street.
I got excited.
So, I order enough to eat in Briland, enough for the trip back home, and enough to share out when we got back.
We paid about $30 for the tarts and took them to eat on the beach.
First bite into the coconut tart was a disaster. Those lazy buggers used coconut frigg in flakes that you buy from the foodstore instead of grating the dam thing. Even though the crust looked hard in the shop it was DEAD soft and frigg in LIMP.
Even my boys threw their's away.
I found the nearest bin to throw the rest in.
My Gawd, if an island bakery can't do good tarts, whats next.:realmad:



Don't get me started on what happened to Harbour Island. It brings tears to my eyes.


I already trying to convince folks to make Sweetings Cay a national treasure so the same won't happen there.


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Don't get me started on what happened to Harbour Island. It brings tears to my eyes.
I already trying to convince folks to make Sweetings Cay a national treasure so the same won't happen there.
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but don't brilanders have the right to have their community develop how they see fit...
i don't drive but i can't stop people from buying big ole stupid suv's....
i prefer a house with a patio/veranda and plenty open spaces but i can't stop people from building fortresses and filling it with conditioned air...

but don't brilanders have the right to have their community develop how they see fit...
i don't drive but i can't stop people from buying big ole stupid suv's....
i prefer a house with a patio/veranda and plenty open spaces but i can't stop people from building fortresses and filling it with conditioned air...



Town planning and local government is sorely lacking there.

Just how we can't stop nasty folks from littering and murdering folks from murdering, the laws that are in place should have some strong and hard teeth!!

but don't brilanders have the right to have their community develop how they see fit...
i don't drive but i can't stop people from buying big ole stupid suv's....
i prefer a house with a patio/veranda and plenty open spaces but i can't stop people from building fortresses and filling it with conditioned air...


Yes, they do.

I still get pissed at those dang hotels that sucked up all the property and made Briland so cookie cutter.

*Sunny weeping for las Eleutheria de mi Corazon*

but don't brilanders have the right to have their community develop how they see fit...
i don't drive but i can't stop people from buying big ole stupid suv's....
i prefer a house with a patio/veranda and plenty open spaces but i can't stop people from building fortresses and filling it with conditioned air...


You would think the islanders should have a say but Perry and his crew shoved Valintines down the brilanders throats just as they shoved Bakers Bay down the throats of the people of Guana Cay. There where protest's over both developments and the former government did not give two hoots.

My Dad's favorite artists which he still plays are Al Green, Sam Cooke, Teddy Pendergras, Otis Redding. Even smokky 007...a Bahamian sang mostly American lyrics....... Their freinds went to the disco as much as my generation goes to the clubs....PRAY TELL ME WHAT WAS BAHAMIAN ABOUT THAT? I don't think my parents could name off a Bahamian artist who played orginal songs much less rake and scrape. They only had the same things we have now...Junkanoo, Regatta, and conch.

Eddie Minnis, Exuma the Obeah man, T-connection, Smokey 007, Marvin Henfield, Count Bernadino, Blind Blake, Freddie Munnings, Swain & The Citations, Jay Mitchell, Maureen Duvalier, King Eric & His Knights, Joseph Spence, George Symonette, Eloise Lewis - and these are just some of the BAHAMIAN musicians that I can remember listening to as a child growing up in the 70's on our huge stereo that had an 8 track player and a phonograph (record player).

You can't be serious when you say that Junkanoo, regatta and conch are the same things as we have now? Definitely not!

Ya'll need to do some soul searching - Grab the next old person you see and spend a day or two with them. Let them tell you what Bahamian culture was back then.

i think alot of the younger generation are losing their appreciation for our culture more so.

i think alot of the younger generation are losing their appreciation for our culture more so.

ummm...
man give examples man...
young people love and appreciate a junkanoo
some conch fritters, and crack conch...
some even like skyjuice and thing.
chilling stay lighting off fire crackers on holloween....i think we are the only country that does do that...