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1bigfrog
07-08-07, - 12:58 PM
Eddie Minnis, Exuma the Obeah man, T-connection, Smokey 007, Marvin Henfield, Count Bernadino, Blind Blake, Freddie Munnings, Swain & The Citations, Jay Mitchell, Maureen Duvalier, King Eric & His Knights, Joseph Spence, George Symonette, Eloise Lewis - and these are just some of the BAHAMIAN musicians that I can remember listening to as a child growing up in the 70's on our huge stereo that had an 8 track player and a phonograph (record player).
You can't be serious when you say that Junkanoo, regatta and conch are the same things as we have now? Definitely not!
Ya'll need to do some soul searching - Grab the next old person you see and spend a day or two with them. Let them tell you what Bahamian culture was back then.

ummm...who are the citations...
and its unfair to call off people who have been dead for years...we talking current...And a number of the people that you have listed...few Bahamians know...or can name 3 original songs that these people actually sings...I still do appreciate your point though...but it would have been better appreciated if you had called modern song artist whose faces one can picture with the name.

Plus only two people on your list actually does sing their own songs.

1bigfrog
07-08-07, - 01:00 PM
EXACTLY.
now maybe some of our traditions and customs are dying off.....but a culture doesn't disappear.
besides, even from the beginning of 'BAHAMIAN' culture, we were fashioning ourselves after what the 'foreigners' brought to our shores. in fact, just about everything that we claim as 'Bahamian" was taught to us/brought to us by another country.
gal you bold and smart aye...man some of the songs we claim is Bahamian even aint originated here.

1bigfrog
07-08-07, - 01:01 PM
I agree with this the most!
I hear my parents and other people of earlier generations talk about how Bahamian things are dying and sometimes cringe at out liking for more foreign artist and styles..even when Bahamians use it. But looking at some of the flshbacks things were no different esspecially in the cities. No one wore androsia, everyone wore American styles of the 50s 60s and 70's Bell bottoms, oversized collars, oversized ties, afros. I looked at a pic of my parents in the 70's and my mom had an afro! :what: My Dad's favorite artists which he still plays are Al Green, Sam Cooke, Teddy Pendergras, Otis Redding. Even smokky 007...a Bahamian sang mostly American lyrics....... Their freinds went to the disco as much as my generation goes to the clubs....PRAY TELL ME WHAT WAS BAHAMIAN ABOUT THAT? I don't think my parents could name off a Bahamian artist who played orginal songs much less rake and scrape. They only had the same things we have now...Junkanoo, Regatta, and conch.

Androsia is a modern product...imported to the Bahamas in the 80's by the Canadians who actually own the company...we just recently dubbed androsia as being Bahamian...

1bigfrog
07-08-07, - 01:04 PM
I really don't know, but I'll tell you this.
One really hot day last summer, my family and I decided to hop on the Bo Hengy for a trip to Harbour Island. I hadn't been there for about 10 years and still had good memories.
I don't know if all the Brilander's moved back from Nassau, but look here, there were large trucks and jeeps competing for space along with the little golf carts on the tiny little 'streets' of Briland. It was amazing to see!! Years ago someone should've decided that Briland needed to stay quiet and quiant(sp).
There should be RIGHT NOW, a limit to vehicles and its sizes.
We decided to get off the street since we valued our lives.
My sons wanted to taste some old fashioned tarts that I used to bragg about. You remember, the CRISP, HOT and FRESH coconut and pineapple tarts. The ones that you cannot find here anymore.
We asked the residents to direct us to the best bakery. I can't recall the name but you could smell fresh bread being baked from the street.
I got excited.
So, I order enough to eat in Briland, enough for the trip back home, and enough to share out when we got back.
We paid about $30 for the tarts and took them to eat on the beach.
First bite into the coconut tart was a disaster. Those lazy buggers used coconut frigg in flakes that you buy from the foodstore instead of grating the dam thing. Even though the crust looked hard in the shop it was DEAD soft and frigg in LIMP.
Even my boys threw their's away.
I found the nearest bin to throw the rest in.
My Gawd, if an island bakery can't do good tarts, whats next.:realmad:

Man tarts all ova nassau...right ova da hill...one place on chapel street..sells only tarts on Sundays...another place through ponciana street off blue hill road does specialize in tarts...

babychase1
07-08-07, - 01:35 PM
i think alot of the younger generation are losing their appreciation for our culture more so.


This is true in some respects. I remember back in the early nineties at the National Family Island regatta the Grand Master used to be leaning to one side filled with spectators watching the races. Nowadays people only come to the regattas for the partying. Some of them dont even know the first thing about a sailboat. This was evident a few years ago when one of the reporters asked around to see if people knew what a mast, boom, sail, rudder etc. was. Out of about 10-15 people interviewed no one had a clue. These people were all between 15 and 30 I would say.

If you go to the regatta in Brilland it is a nightmere. Its only for the love of the sport that I decide to participate. The only regatta nowadays where there are any significant amount of spectators is in Long Island. And the reason being is because we teach the young kids about the sport. That doesn't happen in many other places...

And that is how culture is lot....when it is not passed on from one generation to another.

babychase1
07-08-07, - 01:39 PM
I really don't know, but I'll tell you this.
One really hot day last summer, my family and I decided to hop on the Bo Hengy for a trip to Harbour Island. I hadn't been there for about 10 years and still had good memories.
I don't know if all the Brilander's moved back from Nassau, but look here, there were large trucks and jeeps competing for space along with the little golf carts on the tiny little 'streets' of Briland. It was amazing to see!! Years ago someone should've decided that Briland needed to stay quiet and quiant(sp).
There should be RIGHT NOW, a limit to vehicles and its sizes.
We decided to get off the street since we valued our lives.
My sons wanted to taste some old fashioned tarts that I used to bragg about. You remember, the CRISP, HOT and FRESH coconut and pineapple tarts. The ones that you cannot find here anymore.
We asked the residents to direct us to the best bakery. I can't recall the name but you could smell fresh bread being baked from the street.
I got excited.
So, I order enough to eat in Briland, enough for the trip back home, and enough to share out when we got back.
We paid about $30 for the tarts and took them to eat on the beach.
First bite into the coconut tart was a disaster. Those lazy buggers used coconut frigg in flakes that you buy from the foodstore instead of grating the dam thing. Even though the crust looked hard in the shop it was DEAD soft and frigg in LIMP.
Even my boys threw their's away.
I found the nearest bin to throw the rest in.
My Gawd, if an island bakery can't do good tarts, whats next.:realmad:



I agree with you. The food in Harbour Island leaves much to be desired. My brother ate pizza for 3 days while we were there a few months ago. And he had to supplement that with lots of beer to help fill his stomach.

1bigfrog
07-08-07, - 01:41 PM
This is true in some respects. I remember back in the early nineties at the National Family Island regatta the Grand Master used to be leaning to one side filled with spectators watching the races. Nowadays people only come to the regattas for the partying. Some of them dont even know the first thing about a sailboat. This was evident a few years ago when one of the reporters asked around to see if people knew what a mast, boom, sail, rudder etc. was. Out of about 10-15 people interviewed no one had a clue. These people were all between 15 and 30 I would say.
If you go to the regatta in Brilland it is a nightmere. Its only for the love of the sport that I decide to participate. The only regatta nowadays where there are any significant amount of spectators is in Long Island. And the reason being is because we teach the young kids about the sport. That doesn't happen in many other places...
And that is how culture is lot....when it is not passed on from one generation to another.

I personally don't like sports...in particularly sailing...
We need to start teaching our kids crickett...our real cultural national sport....
:shhh:

k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e
07-08-07, - 01:46 PM
I personally don't like sports...in particularly sailing...
We need to start teaching our kids crickett...our real cultural national sport....
:shhh:

lol...i don't know bruh...last night i played (watched) a cricket match i think offended people from 4-5 countries...liqour, the out doors and west indians are always a wonderful mix :)

babychase1
07-08-07, - 02:10 PM
I personally don't like sports...in particularly sailing...
We need to start teaching our kids crickett...our real cultural national sport....
:shhh:


There is nothing Bahamian about cricket...

YorickBrown
07-08-07, - 04:04 PM
ummm...who are the citations...
and its unfair to call off people who have been dead for years...we talking current...And a number of the people that you have listed...few Bahamians know...or can name 3 original songs that these people actually sings...I still do appreciate your point though...but it would have been better appreciated if you had called modern song artist whose faces one can picture with the name.
Plus only two people on your list actually does sing their own songs.

The young man stated: "I don't think my parents could name off a Bahamian artist who played orginal songs much less rake and scrape"

So every artist that I quoted in that list referred to artists from his FATHER'S time!

My goodness people, if you are going to challenge something at least read the context of the response!

And the ridiculous nature of your quote that only two people on that list sang their own songs shows a state of ignorance that is appalling on so many levels. You put your foot in your mouth so deep that I can use it to kick you in your behind with it!

The artists that are dead on that list are probably rolling over in their graves right now and the ones that are alive are probably holding their heads in sorrow. Their own Bahamian people are ignorant of our rich Bahamian music history.

Knowledge is power. Visit this site please...

http://www.bahamasentertainers.com

And how could I forget (Sir) Ronnie Butler and The Ramblers, Pat Rahming, Ray Munnings, Dry Bread and Dr. Off...Culture is history remember that

Rory
07-08-07, - 04:52 PM
This is true in some respects. I remember back in the early nineties at the National Family Island regatta the Grand Master used to be leaning to one side filled with spectators watching the races. Nowadays people only come to the regattas for the partying. Some of them dont even know the first thing about a sailboat. This was evident a few years ago when one of the reporters asked around to see if people knew what a mast, boom, sail, rudder etc. was. Out of about 10-15 people interviewed no one had a clue. These people were all between 15 and 30 I would say.
If you go to the regatta in Brilland it is a nightmere. Its only for the love of the sport that I decide to participate. The only regatta nowadays where there are any significant amount of spectators is in Long Island. And the reason being is because we teach the young kids about the sport. That doesn't happen in many other places...
And that is how culture is lot....when it is not passed on from one generation to another.

i cant stand sailing .. couldnt imagine anything more boring to do .. :D

Rory
07-08-07, - 04:54 PM
I personally don't like sports...in particularly sailing...
We need to start teaching our kids crickett...our real cultural national sport....
:shhh:

man ok, that is actually more boring than sailing .. :hammer:
did that in high school only cause we had to, but i'd rather have a tooth pulled .. with no pain killers!

Jer
07-08-07, - 05:06 PM
man ok, that is actually more boring than sailing .. :hammer:
did that in high school only cause we had to, but i'd rather have a tooth pulled .. with no pain killers!

How is cricket a cultural thing as it origniated in the UK?

Rory
07-08-07, - 05:11 PM
How is cricket a cultural thing as it origniated in the UK?

i never said it was, though most new cultures originated somewhere else .. or by someone else.

Sunnyjohn
07-08-07, - 05:42 PM
Hold on!

Yinna don't know who "SWAIN AND THE CITATIONS" is?

SWAIN AND DA TICKETS??????? (as we jokingly call them...)

....what 'bout "Jay Mitchell and Hot Ice?"