yall een tired of all this homosexual rants? I know I am. Its at least three threads devoted to this mess. Leave the gay people alone on save them for dear vicky. this gay stuff is so overrated. :realmad:

Then why you keep checking??? said with a big smile :cutie:

Like a moth to the flame! :sarcastic

to start with you again have added what you wish to say to my statement to try to twist what I have said. I said God created everything as for humans look at genesis 1:27 God created man and woman, but [B][U]you say that you are a "transgender" I say that you by your own hand not Gods will but by your own hand and desire have changed what God has made you have mutilated what God has said is good and made it something that is now disfigured and discusting to God

as for paul you say you don't care what he wrote said taught, that makes sence because if you knew anything about paul you would know that paul was saul of tarses a jew that not only did not beleive in Jesus but went out with the athority of the Jews to kill those that followed Christ as you may have noticed i did not use the word Christians that is because the word has not been used yet. in acts chapter 9 saul on his way to demascs is stoped by Jesus, blinded,tolded what to do. Ananias is sent to saul to Baptize him, and states that Jesus that appered to him (saul) so yes saul of tarses which is the apostle Paul did see Jesus, did recive the Holy Spirit, and did trun his back on his people to follow Christ Jesus, and was the first to use the turm Christians, a turm first used in Antioch. Acts chapter 11. this man that repented his ways and followed Christs teachings and preached the doctrine of Christ, did exist and spoke of those that are PUFFED UP that think you should get respect from god because you are an individual.

next your reformation of the church ok it seems to me that you and those that agree with you want to reform everything your bodys, Christs doctrine, and the church. thanks but no thanks on your starting point (refromation, the first pope) because as I said you and those like you wish to change everything even Christs Church HA HA HA as if you could this pope you speak of is NOT IN THE BIBLE he is a puppet of man and position of god Christs church can not and will not change. why ? because Christ Jesus is the head of the true church, his church which is the only authorized church of a true Christian. in fact please show me in the bible where the Roman Catholic Church is mentioned, or popes, cardinals, fathers.

do I beleive blindly, no I do not I believe what the Holy Spirit has revealed to man in the form of the Holy Bible. unlike you that believes science when it suits you and if it dosen't suit you then oops.

I do not judge as you do I am only stateing the truth. I love my Lord and savior Christ Jesus, the son of God the Father, the creater, the most high. and in doing so I follow what he has commanded. he bought me with his blood. I have no right to question him, but I must follow him.

Rome one of mans so-called great powers, whos empire went all the way to Judea, and even farther, that had out posts that were in control of the natives of the land. Generals, captains, soldiers, great fighting men. Men that had seen many campains many battles, and so much blood, the blood of any that might go against the great Roman empire. but pilate the commander told the jews I will do what you wish but I publicly wash my hands of the matter matt 27:24 let his blood be on us and our childern. must I go on

as for the power of the Christians that is the reason for the Roman Catholic Church remember it was the Romans that said keep thy friends close and thy enemys closer.

to start with you again have added what you wish to say to my statement to try to twist what I have said. I said God created everything as for humans look at genesis 1:27 God created man and woman, but [B][U]you say that you are a "transgender" I say that you by your own hand not Gods will but by your own hand and desire have changed what God has made you have mutilated what God has said is good and made it something that is now disfigured and discusting to God
Matthew 19:12 (King James Version)
12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Just because you can't receive/understand it does not mean that I don't. Jesus teaches of humans that are born that don't fit the male or female role. Science has confirmed this and has also shown that which goes on in the womb that give a human a eunuch/ambiguous sex can also effect the brain with out any major effect on the sex. If you want to get into it with me no problem. You talk of believing in science vs the Bible. Science is apart of your everyday life. If it weren't for the science of fire and the wheel you would not be on this computer.
as for paul you say you don't care what he wrote said taught, that makes sence because if you knew anything about paul you would know that paul was saul of tarses a jew that not only did not beleive in Jesus but went out with the athority of the Jews to kill those that followed Christ as you may have noticed i did not use the word Christians that is because the word has not been used yet. in acts chapter 9 saul on his way to demascs is stoped by Jesus, blinded,tolded what to do. Ananias is sent to saul to Baptize him, and states that Jesus that appered to him (saul) so yes saul of tarses which is the apostle Paul did see Jesus, did recive the Holy Spirit, and did trun his back on his people to follow Christ Jesus, and was the first to use the turm Christians, a turm first used in Antioch. Acts chapter 11. this man that repented his ways and followed Christs teachings and preached the doctrine of Christ, did exist and spoke of those that are PUFFED UP that think you should get respect from god because you are an individual.
who better to make an athoity of him than himself. The book of acts is writen by paul.
A man walked up to another and said "Christ said I must get $100.00 from you". The man replied "Gee when I spoke to Christ today he did not mention you or the $100.00".
next your reformation of the church ok it seems to me that you and those that agree with you want to reform everything your bodys, Christs doctrine, and the church. thanks but no thanks on your starting point (refromation, the first pope) because as I said you and those like you wish to change everything even Christs Church HA HA HA as if you could this pope you speak of is NOT IN THE BIBLE he is a puppet of man and position of god Christs church can not and will not change. why ? because Christ Jesus is the head of the true church, his church which is the only authorized church of a true Christian. in fact please show me in the bible where the Roman Catholic Church is mentioned, or popes, cardinals, fathers.
Did you not read any of the info I posted.

How long was the earth flat???
well at least we have established that religious leaders are just as blind as we are when it comes to the Creator. So enlightened one please tell me how the Bible you read was put together. You see after Christ there were writings of his teachings they where scattered here and there not in the form of the Bible. The Bible you read was not put together until 325 years after the death of Christ. The earliest known writhing of Christ teachings wasd 125 years after his death. Constantine paid for them to be canonized ( if you even kniw what the word means). http://www.letusreason.org/Trin13.htm
http://www.thunderministries.com/history/Nicea.html#commentary
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/nicaea.html
Did you not read any of the info I posted.
do I beleive blindly, no I do not I believe what the Holy Spirit has revealed to man in the form of the Holy Bible. unlike you that believes science when it suits you and if it dosen't suit you then oops.
science is not what suits people as religion is. Science is provable.
I do not judge as you do I am only stateing the truth. I am only stating the truth.I love my Lord and savior Christ Jesus, the son of God the Father, the creater, the most high. and in doing so I follow what he has commanded. he bought me with his blood. I have no right to question him, but I must follow him.

Uh you follow the traditions of man. Jesus never referred to himself os the Son of God/ the Creator He called him self the Son of man. It also states in Luke that Adam is the Son of God/the Creator

Then why you keep checking??? said with a big smile :cutie:

that's bogus vicky and you know it! :sparky:
When I check the new post all you see is gay this and gay that THREAD- everyone else notices too. You cant possibly believe that I read all this back and forth foolishness?
This is uninteresting to me, I am not gay. I have no ill will for gay people. These rants and raves on gayness have no value on my life. I lose no sleep over this. I could care less about gay people and their lifestyle.


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that's bogus vicky and you know it! :sparky:
When I check the new post all you see is gay this and gay that THREAD- everyone else notices too. You cant possibly believe that I read all this back and forth foolishness?
This is uninteresting to me, I am not gay. I have no ill will for gay people. These rants and raves on gayness have no value on my life. I lose no sleep over this. I could care less about gay people and their lifestyle.


:fly:
Ting is Tia ,Victor is not gay either :shhh:

Ting is Tia ,Victor is not gay either :shhh:

Who is Victor????

that's bogus vicky and you know it! :sparky:
When I check the new post all you see is gay this and gay that THREAD- everyone else notices too. You cant possibly believe that I read all this back and forth foolishness?
This is uninteresting to me, I am not gay. I have no ill will for gay people. These rants and raves on gayness have no value on my life. I lose no sleep over this. I could care less about gay people and their lifestyle.


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I am so happy for you.

Who is Victor????
Who is Vicky??????

Who is Vicky??????

Me.
Oh I get it you think I choose a female name that sounds like my male name.
LOL you are wrong on that thought.

Me.
Oh I get it you think I choose a female name that sounds like my male name.
LOL you are wrong on that thought.
Not really I was just being sarcastic.Lol, I really dn't think about you so it isn't that deep you know.

all i know is it will be a cold day in hell or at least another thousand years before homosexual marriages are legal in the bahamas. and then after it is legal it would take another thousand years to striaghten out things like insurence policies, wills, adoptions, the rampant employment discrimination etc. i am with rory on this, why should we care who is marrying who. its not our marriage. i am a little split on the issue that 2 same sex cant raise a child of the opposite sex. although it is true that their are just some things that only a daddy can share with his son or only a mommy can share with her duaghter. the homosexual couple can get some one to play that father or mother figure role like a uncle or godmother etc. vicky did have a great point children are grown up by same sex team everyday in this country i.e mummy and grammy or two sisters even though these relationships are not sexual it is pretty much the same thing.

The sexual relationship makes it far from the same thing.

The sexual relationship makes it far from the same thing.

How so? Do the children get involved with their parents sex lives????

Or may be you are right now that I think about it. A lesbian couple could never teach their son to stand a spray pee all over the toilet seat and not look twice to ckean after them selves. Just go into most mens bathrooms and you can see how well they have been taught.